Hi all,

I am looking for inspiration!

I currently have a Danfoss FP715 Programmer (which is working
perfectly well!)

I need to re-locate this as it will not be accessible - wife wants to
put a book case in front of it!

There are no suitable adjacent places where it will fit and moving the
wiring will be a pain in the A*se - so I am looking for a wireless
product that I can fit in a convenient place without having toi do
serious re-wiring.

I have space on the back of a false wall to position and wire in the
wireless sender - but this is not suitable for the programmer.

Does anyone have any suggestions ( I've tried to talk her out of
moving the book case ... but).

Thanks in advance,


Kev

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Hi all,

I am looking for inspiration!

I currently have a Danfoss FP715 Programmer (which is working
perfectly well!)

I need to re-locate this as it will not be accessible - wife wants to
put a book case in front of it!

There are no suitable adjacent places where it will fit and moving the
wiring will be a pain in the A*se - so I am looking for a wireless
product that I can fit in a convenient place without having toi do
serious re-wiring.

I have space on the back of a false wall to position and wire in the
wireless sender - but this is not suitable for the programmer.

The sender doesn't need wires.
The receiver is usually located near the boiler to allow easier wiring to
the boiler.

On 13 Aug, 12:50, "dennis@home" wrote:
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Hi all,

I am looking for inspiration!

I currently have a Danfoss FP715 Programmer (which is working
perfectly well!)

I need to re-locate this as it will not be accessible - wife wants to
put a book case in front of it!

There are no suitable adjacent places where it will fit and moving the
wiring will be a pain in the A*se - so I am looking for a wireless
product that I can fit in a convenient place without having toi do
serious re-wiring.

I have space on the back of a false wall to position and wire in the
wireless sender - but this is not suitable for the programmer.

The sender doesn't need wires.
The receiver is usually located near the boiler to allow easier wiring to
the boiler.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Aplogies - I meant receiver

Kev

On 13 Aug, 12:25, wrote:
Hi all,

I am looking for inspiration!

I currently have a Danfoss FP715 Programmer (which is working
perfectly well!)

I need to re-locate this as it will not be accessible - wife wants to
put a book case in front of it!

There are no suitable adjacent places where it will fit and moving the
wiring will be a pain in the A*se - so I am looking for a wireless
product that I can fit in a convenient place without having toi do
serious re-wiring.

I have space on the back of a false wall to position and wire in the
wireless sender - but this is not suitable for the programmer.

Does anyone have any suggestions ( I've tried to talk her out of
moving the book case ... but).

Thanks in advance,

Kev

Not quite sure what you're asking. Do you mean you want a wireless
thermostat and no separate programmer? I've got a Honeywell CMT927
which is great and acts as a programmer and thermostat. You leave the
boiler on 24/7 and the tell the thermostat what temperatures you like
at what time of day, and it takes care of it.

Cheers!

Martin

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:25:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I currently have a Danfoss FP715 Programmer (which is working
perfectly well!)

I need to re-locate this as it will not be accessible - wife wants to
put a book case in front of it!

There are no suitable adjacent places where it will fit and moving the
wiring will be a pain in the A*se - so I am looking for a wireless
product that I can fit in a convenient place without having toi do
serious re-wiring.

I have space on the back of a false wall to position and wire in the
wireless sender - but this is not suitable for the programmer.

Does anyone have any suggestions ( I've tried to talk her out of
moving the book case ... but).

Thanks in advance,


Kev

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:25:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

There are no suitable adjacent places where it will fit and moving the
wiring will be a pain in the A*se - so I am looking for a wireless
product that I can fit in a convenient place without having toi do
serious re-wiring.

So you need to move the programming side from where it is to some where
accessable without re-wiring.

I assume the current room stat will remain accessable and is in a sensible
place. Replace that with a wired programmable thermostat, wiring out the
switches that were in the programmer. This gives both temperature and time
control for the heating.

Time and temperature control of the hot water has me stummped at the
moment you can find wireless cylinder stats but I've not found one that
does both temperature and time control.

I've not thought this fully through but you might be able to move the
exsiting controller nearer and accessable to the cylinder stat and use the
orginal cylinder stat and programmer wiring for connections back to the
boiler. This will require 3 core and earth between the existing
programmers location and cylinder stat (Live feed, switched live back,
neutral and earth).

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 13 Aug, 13:23, Martin Pentreath
wrote:
On 13 Aug, 12:25, wrote:





Hi all,

I am looking for inspiration!

I currently have a Danfoss FP715 Programmer (which is working
perfectly well!)

I need to re-locate this as it will not be accessible - wife wants to
put a book case in front of it!

There are no suitable adjacent places where it will fit and moving the
wiring will be a pain in the A*se - so I am looking for a wireless
product that I can fit in a convenient place without having toi do
serious re-wiring.

I have space on the back of a false wall to position and wire in the
wireless sender - but this is not suitable for the programmer.

Does anyone have any suggestions ( I've tried to talk her out of
moving the book case ... but).

Thanks in advance,

Kev

Not quite sure what you're asking. Do you mean you want a wireless
thermostat and no separate programmer? I've got a Honeywell CMT927
which is great and acts as a programmer and thermostat. You leave the
boiler on 24/7 and the tell the thermostat what temperatures you like
at what time of day, and it takes care of it.

Cheers!

Martin- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Martin,

What I would like to do in the ideal world is take my FP715 programmer
and move it to a different location.

This is not practical as routing the wiring is not easy.

So, If I can get a wireless replacement for the FP715 I can position
this in the new location.

This would have to "talk" to the boiler in the same way as the FP715
does except wirelessly.

So I would need a receiver that can be wired to the boiler (and can be
sited behind the false wall I mentioned)

Kev

On 13 Aug, 14:20, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:25:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
There are no suitable adjacent places where it will fit and moving the
wiring will be a pain in the A*se - so I am looking for a wireless
product that I can fit in a convenient place without having toi do
serious re-wiring.

So you need to move the programming side from where it is to some where
accessable without re-wiring.

I assume the current room stat will remain accessable and is in a sensible
place. Replace that with a wired programmable thermostat, wiring out the
switches that were in the programmer. This gives both temperature and time
control for the heating.

Time and temperature control of the hot water has me stummped at the
moment you can find wireless cylinder stats but I've not found one that
does both temperature and time control.

I've not thought this fully through but you might be able to move the
exsiting controller nearer and accessable to the cylinder stat and use the
orginal cylinder stat and programmer wiring for connections back to the
boiler. This will require 3 core and earth between the existing
programmers location and cylinder stat (Live feed, switched live back,
neutral and earth).

--
Cheers
Dave.

Thanks,

I guess this is really answering my question - there does not exist a
wireless 2 channel (CH/HW) programmer

Unless someone knows different.

Kev

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:43:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I guess this is really answering my question - there does not exist a
wireless 2 channel (CH/HW) programmer

Wireless 2 channel programmers exist, Danfoss go up to three channels
IIRC. The sticking point is the temperature control of the HW. I don't
know of a system with wireless tank stat and wireless programmer.

TBH if your tank stat wiring is three core and earth then I don't think
you need to go wireless at all. Wires work, wireless is not 100% reliable
and you have batteries to worry about.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 13 Aug, 23:46, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:43:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
I guess this is really answering my question - there does not exist a
wireless 2 channel (CH/HW) programmer

Wireless 2 channel programmers exist, Danfoss go up to three channels
IIRC. The sticking point is the temperature control of the HW. I don't
know of a system with wireless tank stat and wireless programmer.

TBH if your tank stat wiring is three core and earth then I don't think
you need to go wireless at all. Wires work, wireless is not 100% reliable
and you have batteries to worry about.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Hi Dave,

It's not "that bit of the ship" that is the issue Dave

All the wiring before the programmer can remain unchanged - the issue
I have is the position of the programmer - to which I think there are
only 4 (maybe 5) wires.

This has to be moved to a place where wiring is difficult.

In my tiny mind this should not be rocket science - am I missing
something?

Kev

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:50:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

All the wiring before the programmer can remain unchanged - the issue
I have is the position of the programmer - to which I think there are
only 4 (maybe 5) wires.

So you replace the current room stat with a wired programmable room stat,
this provides time and much better temperature control for the CH.
Conventional room stats require 3 core and earth (live, neutral, switched
live and earth).

Move the current programmer to the airing cupboard and wire the cylinder
stat, with new cable, direct to it using heat proof cable and use the
existing (hopefully 3 core and earth) cylinder stat cable to get the
required live, neutral, switched live and earth to and from the existing
wiring.

In the location of the old programmer you need to connect together the
wires that would be connected when the CH is on and likewise when the HW
is on. The live neutral and earth can be parked, seperately, inside a
terminal block, though you may have to feed live and neutral up to the
cylinder stat, it depends where the other end of the existing cylinder
stat cable ends up.

In my tiny mind this should not be rocket science - am I missing
something?

It's not.

--
Cheers
Dave.