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Overloading SDS drill, occasionally?
Hi,
Been looking at this: (DeWalt D25313K 800/395W in/out SDS+) http://www.powertools2u.co.uk/mall/p...ctid=D2531 3K It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? It's either very expensive to go upto the specified capacity, or I get a cheapie powerful SDS, but I'm concerned that none of the cheapies seem to suggest they have a safety clutch. I value my wrists. Most of it's work is going to be chiseling and 28mm-ish core drilling. It's going to get a lot of use for about a year. Cheers Tim |
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Tim S wrote:
It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? 110 metres seems unusually large. Can't you make them smaller? |
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Bruce coughed up some electrons that declared:
Tim S wrote: It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? 110 metres seems unusually large. Can't you make them smaller? Ahem, silly typo... 110mm |
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On 6 Aug, 17:56, Bruce wrote:
Tim S wrote: It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? 110 metres seems unusually large. *Can't you make them smaller? Would a grenade not be better than a drill ? |
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wrote: It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? I'd drill a series of small holes round the outside of the circle to reduce the load. -- *I have my own little world - but it's OK...they know me here* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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robgraham wrote:
On 6 Aug, 17:56, Bruce wrote: Tim S wrote: It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? 110 metres seems unusually large. *Can't you make them smaller? Would a grenade not be better than a drill ? I think a tactical nuclear weapon should do it. |
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"robgraham" wrote in message ... On 6 Aug, 17:56, Bruce wrote: Tim S wrote: It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? 110 metres seems unusually large. Can't you make them smaller? Would a grenade not be better than a drill ? Which grenade will put a 110 m hole in a wall? |
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"Tim S" wrote in message ... Hi, Been looking at this: (DeWalt D25313K 800/395W in/out SDS+) http://www.powertools2u.co.uk/mall/p...ctid=D2531 3K It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? Probably, I put a 110 mm core through a concrete wall using an 18V battery drill, only flattened three batteries. Just stop and have a break occasionally if its taking a while. Take the load off the drill occasionally too and let it run at full speed to cool it down. |
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"Tim S" wrote in message ... Hi, Been looking at this: (DeWalt D25313K 800/395W in/out SDS+) http://www.powertools2u.co.uk/mall/p...ctid=D2531 3K It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? It's either very expensive to go upto the specified capacity, or I get a cheapie powerful SDS, but I'm concerned that none of the cheapies seem to suggest they have a safety clutch. I value my wrists. Most of it's work is going to be chiseling and 28mm-ish core drilling. It's going to get a lot of use for about a year. Cheers Tim I suggest it depends how hard the bircks are. I have a core drill with a diamond cutter but on some bricks it is still an hours job. This could be a case for hiring the tools needed and still DIYing the work. Adam |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Tim S wrote: It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? I'd drill a series of small holes round the outside of the circle to reduce the load. What a stunningly good idea. Well done that man. I reckon the DeWalt would cope anyway, looks like a beastie. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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dennis@home coughed up some electrons that declared:
"Tim S" wrote in message ... Hi, Been looking at this: (DeWalt D25313K 800/395W in/out SDS+) http://www.powertools2u.co.uk/mall/p...ctid=D2531 3K It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? Probably, I put a 110 mm core through a concrete wall using an 18V battery drill, only flattened three batteries. Just stop and have a break occasionally if its taking a while. Take the load off the drill occasionally too and let it run at full speed to cool it down. Cheers to everyone who replied. Reckon that's about the level of machine to go for. Cheers Tim |
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The Medway Handyman wrote: Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Tim S wrote: It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? I'd drill a series of small holes round the outside of the circle to reduce the load. What a stunningly good idea. Well done that man. I reckon the DeWalt would cope anyway, looks like a beastie. I had to make a similar sized hole through brick for my boiler flue and couldn't be bothered with a hole cutter - I simply removed the required number of bricks then cut them and replaced. Of course this is an old house with fairly soft mortar. -- *If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Tim S wrote:
http://www.powertools2u.co.uk/mall/p...ctid=D2531 3K It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? Depends on when the clutch lets go, but chances are you will be ok if you take care to drill very straight and only apply light pressure. I have done a number of 107mm cores with my 780W Makita 2450 which again has a max theoretical core size of something like 60 - 70mm. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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John Rumm coughed up some electrons that declared:
Tim S wrote: http://www.powertools2u.co.uk/mall/p...ctid=D2531 3K It's rated at 65mm core drilling which is more than I'll need most of the time. Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Does the panel reckon I'll get away with overloading it if I go easy? Depends on when the clutch lets go, but chances are you will be ok if you take care to drill very straight and only apply light pressure. I have done a number of 107mm cores with my 780W Makita 2450 which again has a max theoretical core size of something like 60 - 70mm. Thanks John, this is the sort of empirical evidence we like I've only got bricks to worry about, and in 2 skins, so it sounds like I'll be fine. Cheers Tim |
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Tim S wrote: I've only got bricks to worry about, and in 2 skins, so it sounds like I'll be fine. Have you considered just removing a couple of bricks using your SDS in chisel mode? 110mm will normally fit between courses - if that is suitable position for the application. Then carefully cut replacement ones and make good. Large holesaws are expensive and probably not worth it for the odd hole. -- *Do infants enjoy infancy as much as adults enjoy adultery? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) coughed up some electrons that declared:
In article , Tim S wrote: I've only got bricks to worry about, and in 2 skins, so it sounds like I'll be fine. Have you considered just removing a couple of bricks using your SDS in chisel mode? 110mm will normally fit between courses - if that is suitable position for the application. Then carefully cut replacement ones and make good. Large holesaws are expensive and probably not worth it for the odd hole. Also a good point Dave. Bloke I work with got a set like these: http://cpc.farnell.com/TL10280/tools...uratool-d00071 Quite reasonably priced I thought... |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Tim S wrote: I've only got bricks to worry about, and in 2 skins, so it sounds like I'll be fine. Have you considered just removing a couple of bricks using your SDS in chisel mode? 110mm will normally fit between courses - if that is suitable position for the application. Then carefully cut replacement ones and make good. Large holesaws are expensive and probably not worth it for the odd hole. I used #20255 from www.toolstation.co.uk its £12.84 + an arbor and a pilot drill, (total about £20) well worth it. Its a bit short, so you start it off and knock the center out when it gets too deep (I used a lump hammer and chisel). |
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Tim S wrote: Dave Plowman (News) coughed up some electrons that declared: In article , Tim S wrote: I've only got bricks to worry about, and in 2 skins, so it sounds like I'll be fine. Have you considered just removing a couple of bricks using your SDS in chisel mode? 110mm will normally fit between courses - if that is suitable position for the application. Then carefully cut replacement ones and make good. Large holesaws are expensive and probably not worth it for the odd hole. Also a good point Dave. Bloke I work with got a set like these: http://cpc.farnell.com/TL10280/tools...uratool-d00071 Quite reasonably priced I thought... They are indeed. I was thinking of considerably more for just a '110'mm one. -- *Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On an aside, was down B&Q browsing the SDS section to try the weight and
feel of various machines. Found one make to avoid (safety clutch concerns aside): "Performance Power" brand - very very cheap. The display model was shedding ball bearings and springs from the knobs. If it can't stand kids fiddling it's got no chance in real life, given what's it's made to do. OTOH, B&Q did have a multi-piece piece core set for sensible money, different set size, but comparable cost/bit to the CPC one. OT: lots of clearance sales on gardening machinery (Tunbridge Wells branch, but probably a universal policy given they need to make way for Hallowe'en then Christmas paraphenalia). Esoteric (eg leaf blower and edger) Ryobi-type Expand-it attachments going at a decent discount. I'm waiting for the chainsaw attachment to get discounted so I can get one Cheers Tim |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Tim S saying something like: Except, I will need to make 110m holes in brick cavity walls on exactly two occasions, maybe 3 if we include a new connection through a sewage intercept chamber wall. Hire a Hilti SDS-Max + 110mm core cutter for the day for very little money and do all three holes at the same time. -- Dave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a "It's a moron working with power tools. How much more suspenseful can you get?" - House |
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Which grenade will put a 110 m hole in a wall?
http://www.3ad.com/history/cold.war/...y.crockett.htm |
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