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What a pane.
Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window
today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 2008-07-05 19:44:36 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said: Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. Multimaster. You know you want the real thing..... |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message news Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk Who's a silly handyman then ;-) better to have the hole slightly oversize rather than undersize,were glass is concerned anyway. |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
news Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. You measured the hole too small and then fitted the pane before trying the fan in. You've been watching me DIY haven't you! |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message news Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. You could try this.... Two pieces of thin plywood with the correct size hole cut out on both,position the two pieces on either side of the glass hole and clamp them slightly tight so as not to crack the glass. Then use your dremel grinding tool to grind off the excess glass around the hole level with the the plywood cutout hole.? |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. Dave, I won't state the obvious. ;-) but with care, and using a Dremel type of tool with the correct stone, it is possible to grind the edge of the glass to the diameter required - but the odds are that you will break the stuff. Try cutting a slightly larger diameter hole in a piece of 3/4" ply wood than required by the fan, put that into a warm room and lay the glass flat on top of it so that it is well supported (and the hole is over the hole in the ply) and then carefully 'attack' the edge of the hole in the glass with the abrasive stone - (damn, this reads just like and American workshop car manual that I am having a look at). There is no real secret to the job - other than confidence, having the glass at a warm room temperature, well supported and taking your time. Oh, and an extra pair of hands would be useful to stop the glass slipping about when you are working on it. All the best with this job. Tanner-'op |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. Cheat. Use a bit of plywood and make do until Monday (or next opportunity for doing it). Or if you have some suitable plastic sheet material... -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org |
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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:44:36 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. Do you have a tile cutting machine? The sort with a powered water lubricated diamond wheel. I you only need the hole to be bigger in a few places this will be the easiest way. I have used one of these for this purpose but not to enlarge a hole. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html |
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In message , Ed Sirett
writes On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:44:36 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. Do you have a tile cutting machine? The sort with a powered water lubricated diamond wheel. I you only need the hole to be bigger in a few places mainly on the circumference, I think, Ed this will be the easiest way. I have used one of these for this purpose but not to enlarge a hole. Dave didn't say how much "slightly" is - a mm ? Shaving it off the fan housing (assuming it's plastic) I'm sure would be the path of least resistance -- geoff |
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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:44:36 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. It may sound daft but I have enlarged a hole like that with a diamond nail file from my wifes handbag. (She never noticed) |
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George wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message news Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk Who's a silly handyman then ;-) better to have the hole slightly oversize rather than undersize,were glass is concerned anyway. Oh thanks for that George. I did ask the bloke for a 6" hole... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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geoff wrote:
In message , Ed Sirett writes On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:44:36 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. Do you have a tile cutting machine? The sort with a powered water lubricated diamond wheel. I you only need the hole to be bigger in a few places mainly on the circumference, I think, Ed Indeed, the circumferance. this will be the easiest way. I have used one of these for this purpose but not to enlarge a hole. Dave didn't say how much "slightly" is - a mm ? About 2mm on the diameter, so 1mm on the radius. Shaving it off the fan housing (assuming it's plastic) I'm sure would be the path of least resistance Alas not much of it to shave off. Sigh -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Jul 5, 10:25*pm, EricP wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:44:36 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: Busman's holiday. *Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. *Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. It may sound daft but I have enlarged a hole like that with a diamond nail file from my wifes handbag. (She never noticed) fwiw I spent a whole afternoon grinding glazed tiles with a stone in a die grinder and nothing broke, so i'd be fairly tempted to try that NT |
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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:44:36 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. ================================== Tile file used gently along the edge of the glass - not across: http://tinyurl.com/57lyhf Alternatively, a length of 1" dowel wrapped with your choice of abrasive paper. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== |
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"EricP" wrote in message ... .... .. It may sound daft but I have enlarged a hole like that with a diamond nail file from my wifes handbag. What were you doing in your wife's handbag? I mean, would you like it if she went through your pockets? Mary |
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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:25:51 +0100, EricP wrote:
It may sound daft but I have enlarged a hole like that with a diamond nail file from my wifes handbag. So all thats needed now is for you to send your wife round to meet the OP and it's sorted... |
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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:27:08 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: George wrote: "The Medway Handyman" wrote in message news Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk Who's a silly handyman then ;-) better to have the hole slightly oversize rather than undersize,were glass is concerned anyway. Oh thanks for that George. I did ask the bloke for a 6" hole... But if you interfere with it and the glass breaks, no come-back. Alternatively, be patient, take the glass back on Monday with a 6" ruler and wave both under the bloke's nose. MM |
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MM wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:27:08 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: George wrote: "The Medway Handyman" wrote in message news Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk Who's a silly handyman then ;-) better to have the hole slightly oversize rather than undersize,were glass is concerned anyway. Oh thanks for that George. I did ask the bloke for a 6" hole... But if you interfere with it and the glass breaks, no come-back. Alternatively, be patient, take the glass back on Monday with a 6" ruler and wave both under the bloke's nose. MM Wave the fan under his nose, which is what I would have done in the first place |
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Cicero wrote:
================================== Tile file used gently along the edge of the glass - not across: http://tinyurl.com/57lyhf Have you done that before or are you just a genius? That works an absolute treat, in under half an hour I had milled off enough to get the fan to slide in. It was only then that I realised the PCD for the fixings screws is larger than 6"! Finally - I read the instructions - it needs a 7" hole! FX sound of beer can opening FX -- Dave - The Medway Knobhead www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Mary Fisher wrote:
"EricP" wrote in message ... ... . It may sound daft but I have enlarged a hole like that with a diamond nail file from my wifes handbag. What were you doing in your wife's handbag? I mean, would you like it if she went through your pockets? Mary Why shouldn't he look in his wife's handbag - after all, his wife probably does go through his pockets every time she launders his trousers or take his suits to the cleaners - or metaphorically, everytime he has to pay for something (if it's the typical woman, quite often I bet)! Tanner-'op |
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:45:36 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Cicero wrote: ================================== Tile file used gently along the edge of the glass - not across: http://tinyurl.com/57lyhf Have you done that before or are you just a genius? That works an absolute treat, in under half an hour I had milled off enough to get the fan to slide in. It was only then that I realised the PCD for the fixings screws is larger than 6"! Finally - I read the instructions - it needs a 7" hole! FX sound of beer can opening FX ================================== I'd like to claim 'genius' but the truth is that I have tried it before whilst experimenting with a home-made glass splashback. The method is OK for fairly rough work but a good finish is best left to the professionals even if it is expensive. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== |
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On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:13:09 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote: "EricP" wrote in message .. . ... . It may sound daft but I have enlarged a hole like that with a diamond nail file from my wifes handbag. What were you doing in your wife's handbag? Bad things! I mean, would you like it if she went through your pockets? I live in hope, when I am wearing them! Mary |
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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:30:56 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:
geoff wrote: In message , Ed Sirett writes On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:44:36 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Busman's holiday. Decided to replace the electric fan in the kitchen window today & typically the window pane (single glazed) cracked as I removed the fan. Popped down to local glass shoppe & got replacement pane of glass with a 6" hole cut in it (how do they make that look so easy?). Replaced the pane of glass & then found that the hole is very slightly too small for the fan body - bugger. Glass shoppe now shut for weekend - double bugger. Since the glass is in place & SWMBO wants the fan working, any suggestions on how to open out the hole slightly? Altogether now..... angle grinder!! I have a Dremel, various abrasive devices etc. Do you have a tile cutting machine? The sort with a powered water lubricated diamond wheel. I you only need the hole to be bigger in a few places mainly on the circumference, I think, Ed Indeed, the circumferance. this will be the easiest way. I have used one of these for this purpose but not to enlarge a hole. Dave didn't say how much "slightly" is - a mm ? About 2mm on the diameter, so 1mm on the radius. Shaving it off the fan housing (assuming it's plastic) I'm sure would be the path of least resistance Alas not much of it to shave off. Sigh It would work provided the existing hole is bigger than the entire blade/ guard assy. It would be better to make a tedious series of very small straight radial cuts of about 3-4mm over about half the circumference. The cutts will need to be no more than about 1-2 mm apart. The tiny fingers of glass that remains can be removed by very gentle tapping/touching with any hard object. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html |
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