Thanks to all in a previous thread about connecting up sat systems.
Spiney on
http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellit...iswitches.html
suggests that Spaun is the highest quality and that lower priced
multiswitches might suffer interference if UHF and VHF is fed into
socket 5. Because the sole distributor Teldis seems such a peculiarly
difficult company to deal with, I am considering other makes such as
Triax, Konig and Delta. These are more generally available. I guess I
would not be able to order Spaun direct from Germany due to the
distributorship.

Has anyone a recommendation for these other makes, or any others for
that matter?

Andy Hall recommended 'good quality branded CT100 cable'. Any
suggestions for a maker?

Thanks
Peter Scott

In message , Peter
Scott wrote

Andy Hall recommended 'good quality branded CT100 cable'. Any
suggestions for a maker?

Consider also foam dielectric
http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/coaxcablequalityhmdim.htm

--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

Peter Scott wrote:
Thanks to all in a previous thread about connecting up sat systems.
Spiney on
http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellit...iswitches.html


Beware, Spiney was unfortunately an annoying nonsense trolling idiot
over at uk.tech.digital-tv in 2005. Information stated by him needs
serious cross checking for accuracy. Many bear keyboard finger problems
in attempting to post corrections to it all.

Try asking over at uk.tech.digital-tv

--
Adrian C

Adrian C wrote:
Peter Scott wrote:
Thanks to all in a previous thread about connecting up sat systems.
Spiney on
http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellit...iswitches.html


Beware, Spiney was unfortunately an annoying nonsense trolling idiot
over at uk.tech.digital-tv in 2005. Information stated by him needs
serious cross checking for accuracy. Many bear keyboard finger problems
in attempting to post corrections to it all.

Try asking over at uk.tech.digital-tv

Right

Thanks for the warning about spiney.

The wrightsaerials cable reference appears to be excellent. Seems that
by chance I bought the right cable before I knew better. Thought I was
going to have to buy again.

Peter

On 2008-05-24 15:14:26 +0100, Peter Scott said:

Thanks to all in a previous thread about connecting up sat systems.
Spiney on
http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellit...iswitches.html
suggests

that Spaun is the highest quality and that lower priced multiswitches
might suffer interference if UHF and VHF is fed into socket 5. Because
the sole distributor Teldis seems such a peculiarly difficult company
to deal with, I am considering other makes such as Triax, Konig and
Delta. These are more generally available. I guess I would not be able
to order Spaun direct from Germany due to the distributorship.

That's odd. I had no difficulty with them at all.




Has anyone a recommendation for these other makes, or any others for
that matter?

Andy Hall recommended 'good quality branded CT100 cable'. Any
suggestions for a maker?

Belden.




Thanks
Peter Scott

In article , Peter
Scott scribeth thus
Adrian C wrote:
Peter Scott wrote:
Thanks to all in a previous thread about connecting up sat systems.
Spiney on
http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellit...7-multiswitche
s.html


Beware, Spiney was unfortunately an annoying nonsense trolling idiot
over at uk.tech.digital-tv in 2005. Information stated by him needs
serious cross checking for accuracy. Many bear keyboard finger problems
in attempting to post corrections to it all.

Try asking over at uk.tech.digital-tv

Right

Thanks for the warning about spiney.

The wrightsaerials cable reference appears to be excellent. Seems that
by chance I bought the right cable before I knew better. Thought I was
going to have to buy again.

Peter

If Bill Wright sez its OK .. then it is OK !)


One of the most knowledgeable aerial riggers around..
--
Tony Sayer

I guess I would not be able
to order Spaun direct from Germany due to the distributorship.

That's odd. I had no difficulty with them at all.

Did you mean Teldis or direct order from Spaun? It's just you get an
impression from a company's (Teldis) website. I have now tried twice to
register with them and failed. Don't think it's me. Awaiting a reply to
email.

Andy Hall recommended 'good quality branded CT100 cable'. Any
suggestions for a maker?

Belden.

Duly noted.

Peter Scott

On 2008-05-25 12:26:24 +0100, Peter Scott said:

I guess I would not be able
to order Spaun direct from Germany due to the distributorship.

That's odd. I had no difficulty with them at all.

Did you mean Teldis or direct order from Spaun? It's just you get an
impression from a company's (Teldis) website. I have now tried twice to
register with them and failed. Don't think it's me. Awaiting a reply to
email.

I meant Teldis.

They are predominantly a trade supplier but their web site is "underperforming"

I called them when I was after the equipment to implement a whole house
UHF and VHF distribution system and satellite distribution system
involving two dishes, one motorised and multiple outlets.

I bought the VHF/UHF and Spaun equipment from them but the antennas and
dish equipment elsewhere.

Because I need to use two transmitters in different directions with
different power levels on the channels, it was necessary to include
channelised filters in the design (i.e. device able to adjust levels
per channel) and combiners to bring in VHF band 2 and DAB. For
the VHF/UHF system, I wanted to have a lot of outlets and didn't want
to home run the cables to a central point, so this system is a
classical MATV design with taps and splitters allowing a tree
structured cabling arrangement.

The satellite design was simpler and to a smaller number of outlets, home run.

Teldis produced a complete initial design and equipment list for both
systems, which I was able to tweak to the final precise design.

I had a commercial antenna installer to install the outside antennas
and dishes and cable to the head end as well as setting up the channel
filters. I did the rest of the cable distribution in the house.

The satellite system was rather more simple. Most of the work was in
installing the motorised dish and adjusting it so that it tracks
correctly when moved. Fixed dishes are rather easier to do.

Installaton and configuration of the Spaun switch was quite easy.
There are some preset switches and a gain control and that's about it.

Realistically, Teldis are probably not going to do a complete system
design for a Spaun system only, but then it isn't needed anyway.

The important thing is to work out which model you need. There are
one and two dish versions with more and less expandability. I
bought one of the two dish expandable units to begin with and added an
expander unit later.

This was all a few years ago and it's possible that Teldis have
switched to a trade only business model. Even if so, they should be
able to supply through a dealer.



Andy Hall recommended 'good quality branded CT100 cable'. Any
suggestions for a maker?

Belden.

Duly noted.

Peter Scott

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-05-25 12:26:24 +0100, Peter Scott said:


This was all a few years ago and it's possible that Teldis have switched
to a trade only business model. Even if so, they should be able to
supply through a dealer.


Yes could be. I've tried once more to register and await events. As they
are the sole distributor I think that, if I get nowhere, I will contact
Spaun to describe lost sales in the UK due to Teldis' lack of attention.
Extensive searches through Google and other routes have come up with
no-one else who sells Spaun in the UK. Others on my list are Triax and
Antiference. Any views? Labgear's web site lets it down. Their data
sheets come as a xls spreadsheet. Suppose that's not so bad but I wonder
if it's a symptom of poor organisation.

I have also been reading the importance of terminators on unused sockets
and earth bond strips. CPC sells both so yet another order is about to
fly off before long.

Thanks again for the advice

Peter Scott

On 2008-05-25 18:33:43 +0100, Peter Scott said:

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-05-25 12:26:24 +0100, Peter Scott said:


This was all a few years ago and it's possible that Teldis have
switched to a trade only business model. Even if so, they should be
able to supply through a dealer.


Yes could be. I've tried once more to register and await events.

I would suggest being proactive and picking up the phone. Emails on
web sites can be broken - you could try sending an email directly to
sales@ as well. Then if they aren't responsive, you'll know for
sure.

As they are the sole distributor I think that, if I get nowhere, I will
contact Spaun to describe lost sales in the UK due to Teldis' lack of
attention. Extensive searches through Google and other routes have come
up with no-one else who sells Spaun in the UK. Others on my list are
Triax and Antiference. Any views?

Triax has a good reputation in antennas. I am not sure about
multiswitches. I've had Antiference stuff in the past and had
problems with some items - e.g. antennas falling apart. This doesn't
mean that switches would of course.


Labgear's web site lets it down. Their data sheets come as a xls
spreadsheet. Suppose that's not so bad but I wonder if it's a symptom
of poor organisation.

That's why I wouldn't set too much store by web sites for what are
essentially commercial trade products. Quite often, they put up a
PDF of their catalogue and that's your lot.


I have also been reading the importance of terminators on unused
sockets and earth bond strips. CPC sells both so yet another order is
about to fly off before long.

IIRC, Spaun products come with the terminators. I bought a big bag of
them because ordinary splitters usually don't.

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-05-25 18:33:43 +0100, Peter Scott said:



Labgear's web site lets it down. Their data sheets come as a xls
spreadsheet. Suppose that's not so bad but I wonder if it's a symptom
of poor organisation.

That's why I wouldn't set too much store by web sites for what are
essentially commercial trade products. Quite often, they put up a PDF
of their catalogue and that's your lot.



Fair comment. Yes I'll give Teldis a ring soon. It's a shame when a
company's rep is damaged by offering a service which then fails due to
poor design. I've noticed many companies fail to respond to email.
Better not to have contact email at all.

Peter Scott

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Peter Scott
saying something like:

Others on my list are Triax and
Antiference. Any views?

Dealing with Antiference is a pleasure. You get to speak with a genuine
Tech Bod if you have a valid query and he goes out of his way to help.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"It's a moron working with power tools.
How much more suspenseful can you get?"
- House

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:


Dealing with Antiference is a pleasure. You get to speak with a genuine
Tech Bod if you have a valid query and he goes out of his way to help.

Thanks for the recommendation

Peter Scott