I have 3 core SWA armoured cables under my drive, and then popping up and
entering the base of my entrance pillars - providing feeds to lights.
These were buried deep, pea gravel & warning tapes .. Etc.

While my drive was being prepared for paviors - I pointed out several times
to contractors where they would be, and while deep across drive do not dig
within 4" of base of pillar - I'd do that by hand.
I cleaned around to show where they come vertically up and then enter
pillars . today when deciding to scrape around the borders ready for start
of edging they ignored all . and have now taken a small chunk out of the
top of the pvc sheath exposing the armour wires on one cable.
aprox 5mm wide x 10mm long, exposing armour wires in centre of damage.

I know ideally cables should have entered through foundations rather than
across first brick course - but it is where it is.

I am not relying on the armour wires for earth .. so no worries there, but
anybody know a practical way of repair ?
The contractors say simply to ignore - as long as not cut through there is
no problem . !

Next week it will be under the pavior drive so not exposed .. but would
prefer to prevent water entry and possible future problems.
Options ?
- multiple layers of pvc tape ?
- Is there any liquid resin I can pour over the whole cable to encase the
damage?
- Self-Amalgamating tape?
- In case in concrete ?
- or should I just ignore as contractors advise.

The damage is within 10mm of the wall, and unless I want to demolish the
pillar . I can't get the cable out .. I can probably pull it back 50 mm or
so effect a repair, but not enough room to cut & joint.
No point in suggesting I ask them to put it right, they would just bury and
continue.

On Wed, 21 May 2008 21:01:25 +0100, Rick Hughes wrote:

I have 3 core SWA armoured cables under my drive, and then popping up and
entering the base of my entrance pillars - providing feeds to lights.
These were buried deep, pea gravel & warning tapes .. Etc.

While my drive was being prepared for paviors - I pointed out several times
to contractors where they would be, and while deep across drive do not dig
within 4" of base of pillar - I'd do that by hand.
I cleaned around to show where they come vertically up and then enter
pillars . today when deciding to scrape around the borders ready for start
of edging they ignored all . and have now taken a small chunk out of the
top of the pvc sheath exposing the armour wires on one cable.
aprox 5mm wide x 10mm long, exposing armour wires in centre of damage.

I know ideally cables should have entered through foundations rather than
across first brick course - but it is where it is.

I am not relying on the armour wires for earth .. so no worries there, but
anybody know a practical way of repair ?
The contractors say simply to ignore - as long as not cut through there is
no problem . !

Next week it will be under the pavior drive so not exposed .. but would
prefer to prevent water entry and possible future problems.
Options ?
- multiple layers of pvc tape ?
- Is there any liquid resin I can pour over the whole cable to encase the
damage?
- Self-Amalgamating tape?
- In case in concrete ?
- or should I just ignore as contractors advise.

The damage is within 10mm of the wall, and unless I want to demolish the
pillar . I can't get the cable out .. I can probably pull it back 50 mm or
so effect a repair, but not enough room to cut & joint.
No point in suggesting I ask them to put it right, they would just bury and
continue.

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You could wrap it with hessian pipe lagging impregnated (by painting) with
Bitumastic paint. An offcut of damp proof membrane might also work in a
similar way.

Cic.
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Rick Hughes submitted this idea :
I have 3 core SWA armoured cables under my drive, and then popping up and
entering the base of my entrance pillars - providing feeds to lights.
These were buried deep, pea gravel & warning tapes .. Etc.

While my drive was being prepared for paviors - I pointed out several times
to contractors where they would be, and while deep across drive do not dig
within 4" of base of pillar - I'd do that by hand.
I cleaned around to show where they come vertically up and then enter pillars
. today when deciding to scrape around the borders ready for start of edging
they ignored all . and have now taken a small chunk out of the top of the
pvc sheath exposing the armour wires on one cable.
aprox 5mm wide x 10mm long, exposing armour wires in centre of damage.

I know ideally cables should have entered through foundations rather than
across first brick course - but it is where it is.

I am not relying on the armour wires for earth .. so no worries there, but
anybody know a practical way of repair ?
The contractors say simply to ignore - as long as not cut through there is no
problem . !

Next week it will be under the pavior drive so not exposed .. but would
prefer to prevent water entry and possible future problems.
Options ?
- multiple layers of pvc tape ?
- Is there any liquid resin I can pour over the whole cable to encase the
damage?
- Self-Amalgamating tape?
- In case in concrete ?
- or should I just ignore as contractors advise.

The damage is within 10mm of the wall, and unless I want to demolish the
pillar . I can't get the cable out .. I can probably pull it back 50 mm or so
effect a repair, but not enough room to cut & joint.
No point in suggesting I ask them to put it right, they would just bury and
continue.

Left as is it will corrode and rust through given enough time - so it
needs some protection. You can buy two part resin 3M joints - flimsy
plastic former, complete with the resin, but probably this is more than
is needed. If the damage is slight, defintately no internal damage - I
would be inclined to suggest warming the cable and pouring in some two
part resin (Araldite) then adding some self amalg tape over the top
once it has set.

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http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

"Rick Hughes" wrote in message
...
I have 3 core SWA armoured cables under my drive, and then popping up and
entering the base of my entrance pillars - providing feeds to lights.
These were buried deep, pea gravel & warning tapes .. Etc.

While my drive was being prepared for paviors - I pointed out several
times to contractors where they would be, and while deep across drive do
not dig within 4" of base of pillar - I'd do that by hand.
I cleaned around to show where they come vertically up and then enter
pillars . today when deciding to scrape around the borders ready for
start of edging they ignored all . and have now taken a small chunk out
of the top of the pvc sheath exposing the armour wires on one cable.
aprox 5mm wide x 10mm long, exposing armour wires in centre of damage.

I know ideally cables should have entered through foundations rather than
across first brick course - but it is where it is.

I am not relying on the armour wires for earth .. so no worries there, but
anybody know a practical way of repair ?
The contractors say simply to ignore - as long as not cut through there is
no problem . !

Next week it will be under the pavior drive so not exposed .. but would
prefer to prevent water entry and possible future problems.
Options ?
- multiple layers of pvc tape ?
- Is there any liquid resin I can pour over the whole cable to encase the
damage?
- Self-Amalgamating tape?
- In case in concrete ?
- or should I just ignore as contractors advise.

The damage is within 10mm of the wall, and unless I want to demolish the
pillar . I can't get the cable out .. I can probably pull it back 50 mm or
so effect a repair, but not enough room to cut & joint.
No point in suggesting I ask them to put it right, they would just bury
and continue.


Butyl mastic tape

Tony

"Rick Hughes" wrote in message
...
I have 3 core SWA armoured cables under my drive, and then popping up and
entering the base of my entrance pillars - providing feeds to lights.
These were buried deep, pea gravel & warning tapes .. Etc.

While my drive was being prepared for paviors - I pointed out several
times to contractors where they would be, and while deep across drive do
not dig within 4" of base of pillar - I'd do that by hand.
I cleaned around to show where they come vertically up and then enter
pillars . today when deciding to scrape around the borders ready for
start of edging they ignored all . and have now taken a small chunk out
of the top of the pvc sheath exposing the armour wires on one cable.
aprox 5mm wide x 10mm long, exposing armour wires in centre of damage.

I know ideally cables should have entered through foundations rather than
across first brick course - but it is where it is.

I am not relying on the armour wires for earth .. so no worries there, but
anybody know a practical way of repair ?
The contractors say simply to ignore - as long as not cut through there is
no problem . !

Next week it will be under the pavior drive so not exposed .. but would
prefer to prevent water entry and possible future problems.
Options ?
- multiple layers of pvc tape ?
- Is there any liquid resin I can pour over the whole cable to encase the
damage?
- Self-Amalgamating tape?
- In case in concrete ?
- or should I just ignore as contractors advise.

The damage is within 10mm of the wall, and unless I want to demolish the
pillar . I can't get the cable out .. I can probably pull it back 50 mm or
so effect a repair, but not enough room to cut & joint.
No point in suggesting I ask them to put it right, they would just bury
and continue.


Get the contractors to repair it....it's their **** up

On Wed, 21 May 2008 21:01:25 +0100, Rick Hughes wrote:

aprox 5mm wide x 10mm long, exposing armour wires in centre of damage.

So not a large area of exposed armour? If you can get at it to wrap self
amalgamting tape around it that is what I would do. Extending a couple of
inches beyound the end of the damaged insulation and several layers thick
over the damage, done in a spiral one way then backdown, back up and back
down again at least. I might be tempted to but some form of harder
protection over the top of the SA tape.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Rick Hughes wrote:

today when deciding to scrape around the borders ready for start
of edging they ignored all . and have now taken a small chunk out of the
top of the pvc sheath exposing the armour wires on one cable.
aprox 5mm wide x 10mm long, exposing armour wires in centre of damage.

`they have damaged the cable, they are responsible for making good.
Either withhold enough money from their payment to cover the cost of
replacement or make them put it right.

Do not be fobbed off by them as you seem to have been so far.

On 2008-05-21 21:01:25 +0100, "Rick Hughes" said:

I have 3 core SWA armoured cables under my drive, and then popping up
and entering the base of my entrance pillars - providing feeds to
lights.
These were buried deep, pea gravel & warning tapes .. Etc.

While my drive was being prepared for paviors - I pointed out several
times to contractors where they would be, and while deep across drive
do not dig within 4" of base of pillar - I'd do that by hand.
I cleaned around to show where they come vertically up and then enter
pillars . today when deciding to scrape around the borders ready for
start of edging they ignored all . and have now taken a small chunk
out of the top of the pvc sheath exposing the armour wires on one cable.
aprox 5mm wide x 10mm long, exposing armour wires in centre of damage.

I know ideally cables should have entered through foundations rather
than across first brick course - but it is where it is.

I am not relying on the armour wires for earth .. so no worries there,
but anybody know a practical way of repair ?
The contractors say simply to ignore - as long as not cut through there
is no problem . !

Next week it will be under the pavior drive so not exposed .. but would
prefer to prevent water entry and possible future problems.
Options ?
- multiple layers of pvc tape ?
- Is there any liquid resin I can pour over the whole cable to encase
the damage?
- Self-Amalgamating tape?
- In case in concrete ?
- or should I just ignore as contractors advise.

The damage is within 10mm of the wall, and unless I want to demolish
the pillar . I can't get the cable out .. I can probably pull it back
50 mm or so effect a repair, but not enough room to cut & joint.
No point in suggesting I ask them to put it right, they would just bury
and continue.

I don't think that bodges with tape are the right way to address this.
They are not a good long term solution against water ingress which is a
problem since you are losing access.

I had a similar issue to this. The damage is slight, so it really
isn't worth making the contractor replace the whole cable run or even
replacing a section, which would reduce reliability as well.

Therefore a good solution is a resin joint kit. This is what would
be used if a section of cable were added in anyway.

TLC and others have these at about £20 each e.g.
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/SWJK1.html

There is no need to break into the cable, just to clean it up. Then
carefully cut the ends of the shells to match the cable diameter and
clip on the shells with the damaged area in the centre. Mix the two
part resin supplied and pour carefully into the hole in the centre of
the shell. The resin becomes reassuringly warm during curing and
will probably ooze slightly from the ends.

This is a more expensive solution than bodges with tape, but I am quite
sure that the contractor will be more than happy to pay for it.

Rick Hughes wrote:
I have 3 core SWA armoured cables under my drive, and then popping up
and entering the base of my entrance pillars - providing feeds to lights.
These were buried deep, pea gravel & warning tapes .. Etc.

While my drive was being prepared for paviors - I pointed out several
times to contractors where they would be, and while deep across drive do
not dig within 4" of base of pillar - I'd do that by hand.
I cleaned around to show where they come vertically up and then enter
pillars . today when deciding to scrape around the borders ready for
start of edging they ignored all . and have now taken a small chunk out
of the top of the pvc sheath exposing the armour wires on one cable.
aprox 5mm wide x 10mm long, exposing armour wires in centre of damage.

I know ideally cables should have entered through foundations rather
than across first brick course - but it is where it is.

I am not relying on the armour wires for earth .. so no worries there,
but anybody know a practical way of repair ?
The contractors say simply to ignore - as long as not cut through there
is no problem . !

Ah well. I cut the PVC on muine whje laying it. Main feed from te
substaion..

I taped it up with PVC. Now of course a problem DID show up when the
house was rebuilt, and I assumed that was it. However it wasn't. The
foundation digger had cut through the armour as well. In a completelt
different place.

My bodge is still fine after ten years.

So essentially I think its probably fine.



Next week it will be under the pavior drive so not exposed .. but would
prefer to prevent water entry and possible future problems.
Options ?
- multiple layers of pvc tape ?

I would do that.

- Is there any liquid resin I can pour over the whole cable to encase
the damage?
- Self-Amalgamating tape?
- In case in concrete ?
- or should I just ignore as contractors advise.

The damage is within 10mm of the wall, and unless I want to demolish
the pillar . I can't get the cable out .. I can probably pull it back 50
mm or so effect a repair, but not enough room to cut & joint.
No point in suggesting I ask them to put it right, they would just bury
and continue.


Just tape it up to prevent water rotting the armour.

Rick Hughes wrote:

The damage is within 10mm of the wall, and unless I want to demolish
the pillar . I can't get the cable out .. I can probably pull it back 50
mm or so effect a repair, but not enough room to cut & joint.

I assume you can't slide some adhesive lined heat shrink over the
damaged section? That would be my first choice. Self amalgamating tape
would probably be my second...

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John.

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In uk.d-i-y, Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-05-21 21:01:25 +0100, "Rick Hughes" said:

[...]
The damage is within 10mm of the wall,

[...]

Therefore a good solution is a resin joint kit.

Is that going to work?

--
Mike Barnes

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
...
Rick Hughes wrote:

today when deciding to scrape around the borders ready for start
of edging they ignored all . and have now taken a small chunk out of the
top of the pvc sheath exposing the armour wires on one cable.
aprox 5mm wide x 10mm long, exposing armour wires in centre of damage.

`they have damaged the cable, they are responsible for making good.
Either withhold enough money from their payment to cover the cost of
replacement or make them put it right.

Do not be fobbed off by them as you seem to have been so far.


Not been fobbed off, but they are pavior layers .... and any repair they do
is going to be what they think is right ... and bearing in mind they feel it
needs no repair at all, to be sure of getting it done right, I'll do it
myself.

Rick

"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:4834a6f9@qaanaaq...
On 2008-05-21 21:01:25 +0100, "Rick Hughes"
said:

I have 3 core SWA armoured cables under my drive, and then popping up and
entering the base of my entrance pillars - providing feeds to lights.
These were buried deep, pea gravel & warning tapes .. Etc.

While my drive was being prepared for paviors - I pointed out several
times to contractors where they would be, and while deep across drive do
not dig within 4" of base of pillar - I'd do that by hand.
I cleaned around to show where they come vertically up and then enter
pillars . today when deciding to scrape around the borders ready for
start of edging they ignored all . and have now taken a small chunk out
of the top of the pvc sheath exposing the armour wires on one cable.
aprox 5mm wide x 10mm long, exposing armour wires in centre of damage.

I know ideally cables should have entered through foundations rather than
across first brick course - but it is where it is.

I am not relying on the armour wires for earth .. so no worries there,
but anybody know a practical way of repair ?
The contractors say simply to ignore - as long as not cut through there
is no problem . !

Next week it will be under the pavior drive so not exposed .. but would
prefer to prevent water entry and possible future problems.
Options ?
- multiple layers of pvc tape ?
- Is there any liquid resin I can pour over the whole cable to encase the
damage?
- Self-Amalgamating tape?
- In case in concrete ?
- or should I just ignore as contractors advise.

The damage is within 10mm of the wall, and unless I want to demolish the
pillar . I can't get the cable out .. I can probably pull it back 50 mm
or so effect a repair, but not enough room to cut & joint.
No point in suggesting I ask them to put it right, they would just bury
and continue.

I don't think that bodges with tape are the right way to address this.
They are not a good long term solution against water ingress which is a
problem since you are losing access.

I had a similar issue to this. The damage is slight, so it really isn't
worth making the contractor replace the whole cable run or even replacing
a section, which would reduce reliability as well.

Therefore a good solution is a resin joint kit. This is what would be
used if a section of cable were added in anyway.

TLC and others have these at about £20 each e.g.
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/SWJK1.html

There is no need to break into the cable, just to clean it up. Then
carefully cut the ends of the shells to match the cable diameter and clip
on the shells with the damaged area in the centre. Mix the two part
resin supplied and pour carefully into the hole in the centre of the
shell. The resin becomes reassuringly warm during curing and will
probably ooze slightly from the ends.

This is a more expensive solution than bodges with tape, but I am quite
sure that the contractor will be more than happy to pay for it.

I did think of those, I used to joint up to 500mm2 cable with the big
brother versions.

The problem may be physical size of the case.

The cable come out of wall, then turns 90 degrees down .. the damage is
right on the point where it takes the 90 degree downward bend.
Repair would have to be exactly on the 90 degree bend.


Maybe if I could find a way of using the jointing compound without the case
....some thought needed.

Just to be on the safe side a layer of denso on top will add a further
flexible layer of waterproofing.


good thought - I have some denso tape

"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
Rick Hughes wrote:

The damage is within 10mm of the wall, and unless I want to demolish the
pillar . I can't get the cable out .. I can probably pull it back 50 mm
or so effect a repair, but not enough room to cut & joint.

I assume you can't slide some adhesive lined heat shrink over the damaged
section? That would be my first choice. Self amalgamating tape would
probably be my second...



wish I could .... the armoured cable is terminated within the pillar which
means I can't withdraw the cable to slide on a sleeve - 'twas my first
thought.

I suppose what would be ideal is some form or heatshrink tape .... but never
come across any of that.

Maybe I will have to bite the bullet and take off the copings from top of
the pillar, and undo terminations to allow me to use a sleeve.


Can you buy short lengths of adhesive lined sleeve - what I have is too
large a diameter ?

Rick

In article ,
Rick Hughes wrote:

Can you buy short lengths of adhesive lined sleeve - what I have is too
large a diameter ?

Split it lengthways and wrap it around the damage like tape? Might need
to glue the ends somehow I guess...

In article ,
Rick Hughes wrote:
Next week it will be under the pavior drive so not exposed .. but would
prefer to prevent water entry and possible future problems. Options ? -
multiple layers of pvc tape ? - Is there any liquid resin I can pour
over the whole cable to encase the damage? - Self-Amalgamating tape? -
In case in concrete ?

If access is ok I'd clean it thoroughly and make sure it's dry - use a
hairdrier etc. Then cover the exposed part in ordinary silicone sealer,
wiping to the shape of the cable, and leave to dry. Then a few layers of
gaffer tape with cable ties at each end to prevent any possibility of it
unwrapping.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Rick Hughes wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
Rick Hughes wrote:

The damage is within 10mm of the wall, and unless I want to
demolish the pillar . I can't get the cable out .. I can probably
pull it back 50 mm or so effect a repair, but not enough room to
cut & joint.

I assume you can't slide some adhesive lined heat shrink over the
damaged section? That would be my first choice. Self amalgamating
tape would probably be my second...



wish I could .... the armoured cable is terminated within the pillar
which means I can't withdraw the cable to slide on a sleeve - 'twas
my first thought.

I suppose what would be ideal is some form or heatshrink tape ....
but never come across any of that.

Maybe I will have to bite the bullet and take off the copings from
top of the pillar, and undo terminations to allow me to use a sleeve.


Can you buy short lengths of adhesive lined sleeve - what I have is
too large a diameter ?

Rick

If you see any BT (suppose it's now Openreach) cable jointers knocking
around, try to blag a heat-shrink closure from them. I can't remember the
proper name 'cos it's been a while since I worked there but basically it's a
sheet of heat-shrink material that can be wrapped around the cable and has a
type of zipper closure on top. I reckon it would cope with the bend no
problem.

John

On Thu, 22 May 2008 08:37:26 +0100, "Rick Hughes"
wrote:

wish I could .... the armoured cable is terminated within the pillar which
means I can't withdraw the cable to slide on a sleeve - 'twas my first
thought.

I suppose what would be ideal is some form or heatshrink tape .... but never
come across any of that.

You can get heatshrink tape with a layer of hotmelt adhesive

http://cpc.farnell.com/CB09677/cable-wire-connectors/product.us0?sku=raychem-s1030

Self amalgamating tape though is more than adequate for the sealing
but isn't resistant against abrasion.

http://cpc.farnell.com/CB00032/cable-wire-connectors/product.us0?sku=3m-scotch-

Using self amalgamating tape and then some spiralwrap of the
appropriate diameter you will end up with a waterproof and physically
protected join without too much bulk.

Spiralwrap comes in 5, 10 or 20mm diameter - eg
http://cpc.farnell.com/CBBR0912/cable-wire-connectors/product.us0?sku=pro-power-ks-19

On 22 May, 12:20, Peter Parry wrote:
On Thu, 22 May 2008 08:37:26 +0100, "Rick Hughes"

wrote:
wish I could .... the armoured cable is terminated within the pillar which
means I can't withdraw the cable to slide on a sleeve - 'twas my first
thought.

I suppose what would be ideal is some form or heatshrink tape .... but never
come across any of that.

You can get heatshrink tape with a layer of hotmelt adhesive

http://cpc.farnell.com/CB09677/cable-wire-connectors/product.us0?sku=....

Self amalgamating tape though *is more than adequate for the sealing
but isn't *resistant against abrasion. *

http://cpc.farnell.com/CB00032/cable-wire-connectors/product.us0?sku=....

Using self amalgamating tape and then some spiralwrap *of the
appropriate diameter you will end up with a waterproof and physically
protected *join without *too much bulk.

Spiralwrap comes in 5, 10 or 20mm diameter - eg
http://cpc.farnell.com/CBBR0912/cable-wire-connectors/product.us0?sku...

Thanks for that.

On Wed, 21 May 2008 21:01:25 +0100, Rick Hughes wrote:

I have 3 core SWA armoured cables under my drive, and then popping up and
entering the base of my entrance pillars - providing feeds to lights.
These were buried deep, pea gravel & warning tapes .. Etc.

While my drive was being prepared for paviors - I pointed out several times
to contractors where they would be, and while deep across drive do not dig
within 4" of base of pillar - I'd do that by hand.
I cleaned around to show where they come vertically up and then enter
pillars . today when deciding to scrape around the borders ready for start
of edging they ignored all . and have now taken a small chunk out of the
top of the pvc sheath exposing the armour wires on one cable.
aprox 5mm wide x 10mm long, exposing armour wires in centre of damage.

I know ideally cables should have entered through foundations rather than
across first brick course - but it is where it is.

I am not relying on the armour wires for earth .. so no worries there, but
anybody know a practical way of repair ?

I assume the armouring has been bonded.....

The contractors say simply to ignore - as long as not cut through there is
no problem . !

They would say that, wouldn't they?

Next week it will be under the pavior drive so not exposed .. but would
prefer to prevent water entry and possible future problems.
Options ?
- multiple layers of pvc tape ?
- Is there any liquid resin I can pour over the whole cable to encase the
damage?

That's unlikely to keep out the moisture. Seen too many fit for purpose but
incorrectly applied u/g cable joints that have gone bang coz a jointer
failed to prepare everything properly. You'd need to clean and roughen the
surface of the pvc *and* most importantly degrease with carbon tetra
chloride to have any chance of success.

- Self-Amalgamating tape?
- In case in concrete ?
- or should I just ignore as contractors advise.

I'd suggest Denso tape, let one of the contractors get his hands good and
messy applying it! Insist, however, that they do it with you in attendance,
and to your satisfaction. The cable should be wiped clean and the surface
pvc roughened all around with a wire scratch brush or coarse emery cloth.
If you don't, moisture will work it's way along the smooth surface of the
pvc. Make sure the underside is cleaned and prepared properly!

The damage is within 10mm of the wall, and unless I want to demolish the
pillar . I can't get the cable out .. I can probably pull it back 50 mm or
so effect a repair, but not enough room to cut & joint.

You may be faced with that one day.

No point in suggesting I ask them to put it right, they would just bury and
continue.

Tell them you will withhold payment unless the repair is carried out to
your satisfaction. A roll of denso tape will only set them back a couple of
quid. As I said, tell them you insist on being present when the work is
done, and it must be to your satisfaction.

--
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

"Rick Hughes" wrote in message
...

Maybe if I could find a way of using the jointing compound without the
case ...some thought needed.

How about the rubber sleeve of an armoured gland pack that is sliced open
longways, placed around the damaged part and then taped into position whilst
the jointing compound set.

Adam

On 21 May, 21:01, "Rick Hughes" wrote:
I have 3 core SWA armoured cables under my drive, and then popping up and
entering the base of my entrance pillars - providing feeds to lights.

SWA enters pillar at 90-degrees above ground and rises up inside the
pillar.
.... is the brick pillar hollow?
.... does the cable exit the pillar to the lights?

(hindsight - run swa in pillars thro smooth bore flexible conduit,
Twinwall).


I can probably pull it back 50 mm or so effect a repair

.... can you instead pull the cable from the light end, draw a rope &
new swa in?
If yes then fit a suitable ip junction box, 2 cw glands (can be buried
if u/g pratley jn).

.... can you sds the mortar with armeg brick chisel to remove a brick
from the pillar?
If yes then do same, higher cable entry provides more pillar side
cable to work with.

On 2008-05-22 07:15:40 +0100, Mike Barnes said:

In uk.d-i-y, Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-05-21 21:01:25 +0100, "Rick Hughes" said:

[...]
The damage is within 10mm of the wall,

[...]

Therefore a good solution is a resin joint kit.

Is that going to work?

I missed that specific point about proximity to wall. In that
case, no, the plastic shell arrangement wouldn't be suitable, but the
resin remains a good way to make a fix.

On 2008-05-22 08:32:56 +0100, "Rick Hughes" said:

I did think of those, I used to joint up to 500mm2 cable with the big
brother versions.

The problem may be physical size of the case.

The cable come out of wall, then turns 90 degrees down .. the damage is
right on the point where it takes the 90 degree downward bend.
Repair would have to be exactly on the 90 degree bend.


Maybe if I could find a way of using the jointing compound without the
case ...some thought needed.

I'd missed the point about the joint being so close to the wall.

Using resin would still be good, perhaps with some other container.

If this is all below ground, could you carefully remove a bit of brick
from the wall to expose more cable on that side? Not to the extent to
put in a shell, but perhaps another 20mm or so to give 30 and thus
space for some other kind of mould.

On 2008-05-22 18:38:47 +0100, "ARWadworth"
said:


"Rick Hughes" wrote in message
...

Maybe if I could find a way of using the jointing compound without the
case ...some thought needed.

How about the rubber sleeve of an armoured gland pack that is sliced
open longways, placed around the damaged part and then taped into
position whilst the jointing compound set.

Adam

I think that that would be a pretty good solution as long as a way can
be found to get the resin in there. Hole in the side I suppose.