http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/7395452.stm

Mind you it looks like he has stolen the clamp.

Adam

"ARWadworth" wrote in message
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/7395452.stm

Mind you it looks like he has stolen the clamp.

Adam

As the clampers normally clamp a front wheel would they have been
trespassing to do it?

Tony

In article , ARWadworth
writes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/7395452.stm

Mind you it looks like he has stolen the clamp.

LOL, that gives me an idea, grab a spanner & leave them the strut, hub
and radius arm by the kerb. If you want it back on the road then get
round the scrappy for a replacement, shouldn't be too expensive for a
ratty fiesta.

NCP, what can I say, if there's easy money to be made from captive
markets then they'll make it . . . .
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

"fred" wrote in message ...
In article , ARWadworth
writes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/7395452.stm

Mind you it looks like he has stolen the clamp.

LOL, that gives me an idea, grab a spanner & leave them the strut, hub and
radius arm by the kerb. If you want it back on the road then get round the
scrappy for a replacement, shouldn't be too expensive for a ratty fiesta.

But what if you then chained all these bits up that you have removed and ran
the chain through the clamp. You have not pinched it. Charge NCP a fee for
the removal of the chain.

NCP, what can I say, if there's easy money to be made from captive markets
then they'll make it . . . .

I have only had the pleasure of the clamp once. I did not laugh that day.

Adam

"ARWadworth" wrote in message
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/7395452.stm

Mind you it looks like he has stolen the clamp.

Adam

Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax.
The damn thing shouldn't have been on the pavement even if it were taxed.

Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax.
The damn thing shouldn't have been on the pavement even if it were taxed.

By a whole 2 inches ? - he tried to conform with the spirit of the
law, and made a minor error.

Would you be as indignant if you were in a car park, and got clamped
for being a small amount over a marked bay ? What if you were
prevented from parking fully within that bay by a.n.other's bad
parking ?

"Colin Wilson" o.uk wrote
in message ...
Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax.
The damn thing shouldn't have been on the pavement even if it were taxed.

By a whole 2 inches ? - he tried to conform with the spirit of the
law, and made a minor error.

He said 2 inches, they said half a car.
Looking at the video I expect they were correct.
They claim to have photographic evidence.


Would you be as indignant if you were in a car park, and got clamped
for being a small amount over a marked bay ?

Poor driving, its inconsiderate for the driver next door.


What if you were
prevented from parking fully within that bay by a.n.other's bad
parking ?

So he needs clamping, why do you want to make it two wrongs?

On Mon, 12 May 2008 23:11:24 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

Would you be as indignant if you were in a car park, and got clamped
for being a small amount over a marked bay ?

Poor driving, its inconsiderate for the driver next door.


It may be poor driving, but does it deserve a fine, maybe of a couple of
hundred pounds?

I used to work with a bloke who got 3 points and a fine for his bumper
overhanging the zigzags by a crossing by just over an inch.

"PCPaul" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 May 2008 23:11:24 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

Would you be as indignant if you were in a car park, and got clamped
for being a small amount over a marked bay ?

Poor driving, its inconsiderate for the driver next door.


It may be poor driving, but does it deserve a fine, maybe of a couple of
hundred pounds?

I used to work with a bloke who got 3 points and a fine for his bumper
overhanging the zigzags by a crossing by just over an inch.

So how much should one be allowed to break a law before it is wrong?

So how much should one be allowed to break a law before it is wrong?

There's blatant ignorance, and there's trying to stick to the spirit
of the law.

Doing 31mph in a 30mph zone might strictly be an offence, but i'm all
for latitude in these things, rather than automated criminalisation (I
have no points on my licence, so i'm not coming at this from an "I
shouldn't have been done" stance :-} )

In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"Colin Wilson" o.uk
wrote in message ...
Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax.
The damn thing shouldn't have been on the pavement even if it were taxed.

By a whole 2 inches ? - he tried to conform with the spirit of the
law, and made a minor error.

He said 2 inches, they said half a car.
Looking at the video I expect they were correct.
They claim to have photographic evidence.

I've seen the photo - it's about 9" to a foot over the line

definitely a case of the difference between the spirit of the law and
strict observance therof

It's not a case of trying to get away with anything, just lazy parking.
Compare it with pikey joe driving around with no insurance and a
guinness label for a tax disk



Would you be as indignant if you were in a car park, and got clamped
for being a small amount over a marked bay ?

Poor driving, its inconsiderate for the driver next door.


What if you were
prevented from parking fully within that bay by a.n.other's bad
parking ?

So he needs clamping, why do you want to make it two wrongs?

get real


--
geoff

In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"PCPaul" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 12 May 2008 23:11:24 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

Would you be as indignant if you were in a car park, and got clamped
for being a small amount over a marked bay ?

Poor driving, its inconsiderate for the driver next door.


It may be poor driving, but does it deserve a fine, maybe of a couple of
hundred pounds?

I used to work with a bloke who got 3 points and a fine for his bumper
overhanging the zigzags by a crossing by just over an inch.

So how much should one be allowed to break a law before it is wrong?

You fail to understand the difference between spirit of the law and
pedantic application therof, it seems


--
geoff

In article ,
Colin Wilson o.uk
wrote:
Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax. The damn
thing shouldn't have been on the pavement even if it were taxed.

By a whole 2 inches ? - he tried to conform with the spirit of the
law, and made a minor error.

The *wheel* was on the pavement. Therefore quite a bit of the car too, I'd
guess.

--
*A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"Colin Wilson" o.uk
wrote in message ...
Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax.
The damn thing shouldn't have been on the pavement even if it were
taxed.

By a whole 2 inches ? - he tried to conform with the spirit of the
law, and made a minor error.

He said 2 inches, they said half a car.
Looking at the video I expect they were correct.
They claim to have photographic evidence.

I've seen the photo - it's about 9" to a foot over the line

Small wheels then? The wheel was supposed to be on the pavement so they
could attach the clamp.


definitely a case of the difference between the spirit of the law and
strict observance therof

That may or may not be true, for all you and I know he might be running a
car business like they do in places around here.


It's not a case of trying to get away with anything, just lazy parking.
Compare it with pikey joe driving around with no insurance and a guinness
label for a tax disk

What has someone else committing a crime got to do with it?
"I thought it was OK to kill him, someone else shoot someone last week and
hasn't been caught yet"




Would you be as indignant if you were in a car park, and got clamped
for being a small amount over a marked bay ?

Poor driving, its inconsiderate for the driver next door.


What if you were
prevented from parking fully within that bay by a.n.other's bad
parking ?

So he needs clamping, why do you want to make it two wrongs?

get real

Why, you aren't.



--
geoff

"geoff" wrote in message
...

It's not a case of trying to get away with anything, just lazy parking.
Compare it with pikey joe driving around with no insurance and a guinness
label for a tax disk

Maxie, it is case of a quick buck by sharks. Pikey Joe should be locked up,
but he is not an easy pick.

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...


"ARWadworth" wrote in message
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/7395452.stm

Mind you it looks like he has stolen the clamp.

Adam

Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax.
The damn thing shouldn't have been on the pavement even if it were taxed.

I agree with everything you've said.

Mary

On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:14:10 GMT, "ARWadworth"
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/7395452.stm

Mind you it looks like he has stolen the clamp.

If the car was parked on his drive, with a little of the car on the
pavement, why were the NCP involved at all?

I wish they would fine drivers around where I live for parking on the
pavement. I'm fed up with having to walk my small children on the
road when taking them to school.

--
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(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking most articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.
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In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:
Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax. The damn
thing shouldn't have been on the pavement even if it were taxed.

I agree with everything you've said.

The road at the end of this one is a sort of minor main road. Ie something
busier than a normal urban side road. Residents often parked half on the
pavement - and often got 'tickets' for doing so.
Then the council introduced resident's parking. And marked out the bays
half on the pavement - exactly where people used to park illegally...

--
*A closed mouth gathers no feet.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

geoff wrote:
In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"PCPaul" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 May 2008 23:11:24 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

Would you be as indignant if you were in a car park, and got clamped
for being a small amount over a marked bay ?

Poor driving, its inconsiderate for the driver next door.


It may be poor driving, but does it deserve a fine, maybe of a couple of
hundred pounds?

I used to work with a bloke who got 3 points and a fine for his bumper
overhanging the zigzags by a crossing by just over an inch.

So how much should one be allowed to break a law before it is wrong?

You fail to understand the difference between spirit of the law and
pedantic application therof, it seems

Makes you wonder if dennis' employer provides him with a peaked cap as a
part of his job ;-)

--
Cheers,

John.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:
Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax. The damn
thing shouldn't have been on the pavement even if it were taxed.

I agree with everything you've said.

The road at the end of this one is a sort of minor main road. Ie something
busier than a normal urban side road. Residents often parked half on the
pavement - and often got 'tickets' for doing so.

I wish they'd do it in our street. Pedestrians are forced onto the road.

It's not as if there weren't drives for people to park in - there's no need
for parking bays.

There's a 20mph speed limit on the road but very few people observe it. I
suppopse that's excusable too - by some.

There's a nursery at the bottom of the street so people with prams and
people with toddlers have to walk on the road. Many years ago (about forty)
one of our sons was hit by a car at the bottom of the street and spent quite
a long time in hospital - that was when there was far less traffic.

Mary

Mark wrote in


snip

I wish they would fine drivers around where I live for parking on the
pavement. I'm fed up with having to walk my small children on the
road when taking them to school.

And it makes it so dangerous for the cyclists.

--
PeterMcC
If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
inappropriate or offensive in any way,
please ignore it and accept my apologies.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "dennis@home"
saying something like:

Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax.
The damn

You stupid ****.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"It's a moron working with power tools.
How much more suspenseful can you get?"
- House

"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:14:10 GMT, "ARWadworth"
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/7395452.stm

Mind you it looks like he has stolen the clamp.

If the car was parked on his drive, with a little of the car on the
pavement, why were the NCP involved at all?

I wish they would fine drivers around where I live for parking on the
pavement. I'm fed up with having to walk my small children on the
road when taking them to school.

Have you complained about it?
Nothing gets done unless you do.

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "dennis@home"
saying something like:

Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax.
The damn

You stupid ****.

Sore point?
I take it you are a poor driver from a comment like that.
Many points?

On May 12, 11:53*pm, Colin Wilson
o.uk wrote:
So how much should one be allowed to break a law before it is wrong?

There's blatant ignorance, and there's trying to stick to the spirit
of the law.

Doing 31mph in a 30mph zone might strictly be an offence, but i'm all
for latitude in these things, rather than automated criminalisation (I
have no points on my licence, so i'm not coming at this from an "I
shouldn't have been done" stance :-} )

I've had points and I deserved what I got.

Why should there be any latitude? If people know it's safe to do a few
mph over the limit then they will, making the limit ineffective. We
might just as awell say the limit is 34mph with no latitude.

MBQ

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...


"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:14:10 GMT, "ARWadworth"
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/7395452.stm

Mind you it looks like he has stolen the clamp.

If the car was parked on his drive, with a little of the car on the
pavement, why were the NCP involved at all?

I wish they would fine drivers around where I live for parking on the
pavement. I'm fed up with having to walk my small children on the
road when taking them to school.

Have you complained about it?

I've complained to councillors, the police, Highways, our MP - nothing gets
done.

If there IS room to walk past the car on the pavement I've sometimes bruised
my arm when it's hit the wing mirror - I believe those are quite expensive
to replace ...

Mary

In article ,
Mark wrote:
If the car was parked on his drive, with a little of the car on the
pavement, why were the NCP involved at all?

The owner had declared SORN -(statuary off road notice) to avoid paying
the VED. But the car was not off road.

--
*No hand signals. Driver on Viagra*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Tue, 13 May 2008 13:00:48 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:



"Mark" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:14:10 GMT, "ARWadworth"
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/7395452.stm

Mind you it looks like he has stolen the clamp.

If the car was parked on his drive, with a little of the car on the
pavement, why were the NCP involved at all?

I wish they would fine drivers around where I live for parking on the
pavement. I'm fed up with having to walk my small children on the
road when taking them to school.

Have you complained about it?

Yes.

Nothing gets done unless you do.

And if you do complain nothing gets done about it either.

--
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(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking most articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.
See http://improve-usenet.org

On Tue, 13 May 2008 13:21:13 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"dennis@home" wrote in message
...


"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:14:10 GMT, "ARWadworth"
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/7395452.stm

Mind you it looks like he has stolen the clamp.

If the car was parked on his drive, with a little of the car on the
pavement, why were the NCP involved at all?

I wish they would fine drivers around where I live for parking on the
pavement. I'm fed up with having to walk my small children on the
road when taking them to school.

Have you complained about it?

I've complained to councillors, the police, Highways, our MP - nothing gets
done.

If there IS room to walk past the car on the pavement I've sometimes bruised
my arm when it's hit the wing mirror - I believe those are quite expensive
to replace ...

Tsk, talk about waste...a whole new arm just 'cos the old one's a bit
bruised?

Regards,



--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

On Tue, 13 May 2008 13:21:13 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"dennis@home" wrote in message
...


"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:14:10 GMT, "ARWadworth"
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/7395452.stm

Mind you it looks like he has stolen the clamp.

If the car was parked on his drive, with a little of the car on the
pavement, why were the NCP involved at all?

I wish they would fine drivers around where I live for parking on the
pavement. I'm fed up with having to walk my small children on the
road when taking them to school.

Have you complained about it?

I've complained to councillors, the police, Highways, our MP - nothing gets
done.

If there IS room to walk past the car on the pavement I've sometimes bruised
my arm when it's hit the wing mirror - I believe those are quite expensive
to replace ...

It would be a shame if it got scratched by a pushchair or wheelchair
passing, wouldn't it?

--
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(='.'=) Owing to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and
(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking most articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.
See http://improve-usenet.org

"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 May 2008 13:21:13 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"dennis@home" wrote in message
...


"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:14:10 GMT, "ARWadworth"
wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/7395452.stm

Mind you it looks like he has stolen the clamp.

If the car was parked on his drive, with a little of the car on the
pavement, why were the NCP involved at all?

I wish they would fine drivers around where I live for parking on the
pavement. I'm fed up with having to walk my small children on the
road when taking them to school.

Have you complained about it?

I've complained to councillors, the police, Highways, our MP - nothing
gets
done.

If there IS room to walk past the car on the pavement I've sometimes
bruised
my arm when it's hit the wing mirror - I believe those are quite expensive
to replace ...

It would be a shame if it got scratched by a pushchair or wheelchair
passing, wouldn't it?

The vicar's wife said the same, as she started up the street to take her
children to school on the first day of term - pushing a large buggy with her
youngest in it.

Our only wheelchair user had to travel on the road.

Mary

On Mon, 12 May 2008 22:14:52 GMT PCPaul wrote :
It may be poor driving, but does it deserve a fine, maybe of a couple
of hundred pounds?

I used to work with a bloke who got 3 points and a fine for his bumper
overhanging the zigzags by a crossing by just over an inch.

One of Boris Johnson's manifesto pledges was a zero tolerance towards
crime. William Hague IIRC used to go on about common sense and where did
that get him?

--
Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk

On Tue, 13 May 2008 05:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Man at B&Q wrote :
Why should there be any latitude? If people know it's safe to do a few
mph over the limit then they will, making the limit ineffective. We
might just as awell say the limit is 34mph with no latitude.

As speed limits are set in 10mph increments, there's a 50% chance that
34mph is a safe speed.

--
Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "dennis@home"
saying something like:

Sore point?
I take it you are a poor driver from a comment like that.
Many points?

None at all. Doesn't detract in the slightest from you being a stupid
****.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"It's a moron working with power tools.
How much more suspenseful can you get?"
- House

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Colin Wilson o.uk
wrote:
Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax. The damn
thing shouldn't have been on the pavement even if it were taxed.

By a whole 2 inches ? - he tried to conform with the spirit of the
law, and made a minor error.

The *wheel* was on the pavement. Therefore quite a bit of the car too, I'd
guess.


The back wheels are on the pavement now. I wonder if they were there before
it was chopped in half.

Adam

In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"Colin Wilson"
REMOVEEVERYTHINGBUTnewsgroup@phoenixbbsZEROSPA M.co.uk wrote in
message ...
Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax.
The damn thing shouldn't have been on the pavement even if it were
taxed.

By a whole 2 inches ? - he tried to conform with the spirit of the
law, and made a minor error.

He said 2 inches, they said half a car.
Looking at the video I expect they were correct.
They claim to have photographic evidence.

I've seen the photo - it's about 9" to a foot over the line

Small wheels then? The wheel was supposed to be on the pavement so they
could attach the clamp.

It was actually parked in a bay off the road, but overhung a bit

according to him, the back bumper was overhanging, but the photo I saw
showed that the nearside rear wheel was outside the parking bay




definitely a case of the difference between the spirit of the law and
strict observance therof

That may or may not be true, for all you and I know he might be running
a car business like they do in places around here.

"Ian Taylor, 40, of Tredworth, said: "I bought the car for my stepson to
do up but it was below economical to do it so it has been parked on the
drive for months.

"I have a SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification) certificate and it has
never been driven on the roads"



It's not a case of trying to get away with anything, just lazy
parking. Compare it with pikey joe driving around with no insurance
and a guinness label for a tax disk

What has someone else committing a crime got to do with it?

I'm trying to get a bit of a sense of perspective into it

"I thought it was OK to kill him, someone else shoot someone last week
and hasn't been caught yet"




Would you be as indignant if you were in a car park, and got clamped
for being a small amount over a marked bay ?

Poor driving, its inconsiderate for the driver next door.


What if you were
prevented from parking fully within that bay by a.n.other's bad
parking ?

So he needs clamping, why do you want to make it two wrongs?

get real

Why, you aren't.



-- geoff


--
geoff

In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "dennis@home"
saying something like:

Well I hope he gets done for no insurance as well as no tax.
The damn

You stupid ****.

Sore point?
I take it you are a poor driver from a comment like that.
Many points?

Instead of posting like an idiot, why not find out a bit of background
first ?

--
geoff

In message , PeterMcC
writes
Mark wrote in


snip

I wish they would fine drivers around where I live for parking on the
pavement. I'm fed up with having to walk my small children on the
road when taking them to school.

And it makes it so dangerous for the cyclists.

What cyclists ?

They all ride on the pavement around here


--
geoff

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "dennis@home"
saying something like:

Sore point?
I take it you are a poor driver from a comment like that.
Many points?

None at all. Doesn't detract in the slightest from you being a stupid
****.

WELL i can disregard that as you are too stupid to know.
Have a nice day.

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Mark wrote:
If the car was parked on his drive, with a little of the car on the
pavement, why were the NCP involved at all?

The owner had declared SORN -(statuary off road notice) to avoid paying
the VED. But the car was not off road.

Yes it was. It was in a bay off the road ... with the nearside wheel
outside the box

I've been looking for the photo presented by NCP, but can't find it
anymore


--
geoff