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Hi all,
I need to paint a rendered extension with some Dulux Weathershield. What is the right proportion to water down the paint by for the initial coat? Cheers! Martin |
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Martin Pentreath wrote:
Hi all, I need to paint a rendered extension with some Dulux Weathershield. What is the right proportion to water down the paint by for the initial coat? The actual Dulux Weathershield usage guide to follow depends on which of the many Weathershield products you intend using. For example: http://www.dulux.co.uk/products/info...onry_paint.jsp http://www.dulux.co.uk/products/info/usage/weathershield_textured_exterior_masonry_paint.jsp The usage guides indicate the dilution to use on new or bare surfaces. Is this information not on the tin? -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org |
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On 21 Mar, 12:51, Rod wrote:
The actual Dulux Weathershield usage guide to follow depends on which of the many Weathershield products you intend using. For example: http://www.dulux.co.uk/products/info...d_smooth_mason... http://www.dulux.co.uk/products/info/usage/weathershield_textured_ext... The usage guides indicate the dilution to use on new or bare surfaces. Is this information not on the tin? Many thanks for the prompt reply Rod, and yes you're right, it says that on the tin! I'll go and sit in the corner ... |
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Martin Pentreath wrote:
Hi all, I need to paint a rendered extension with some Dulux Weathershield. What is the right proportion to water down the paint by for the initial coat? Cheers! Martin It's a bit like thinning custard. If you shake it enough you may get the illusion of a uniform consistency but the two phases, water and resin, are always separate. The water you've added soaks into the render, together with (depending on the porosity) essential solvents from the paint itself, making it difficult for a proper film to develop. I prefer to use a stabilising solution and then the paint straight from the tin |
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:03:11 GMT, Stuart Noble
wrote: Martin Pentreath wrote: Hi all, I need to paint a rendered extension with some Dulux Weathershield. What is the right proportion to water down the paint by for the initial coat? Cheers! Martin It's a bit like thinning custard. If you shake it enough you may get the illusion of a uniform consistency but the two phases, water and resin, are always separate. The water you've added soaks into the render, together with (depending on the porosity) essential solvents from the paint itself, making it difficult for a proper film to develop. I prefer to use a stabilising solution and then the paint straight from the tin Can you enlarge on a description of a stabilising solution please ? |
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Interestingly the Dulux Weathershield instructions expressly say:
"If the surface is still powdery after thorough preparation, seal it with a coat of Weathershield Stabilising Primer, but do not seal sound, new or bare surfaces." |
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Martin Pentreath wrote:
Interestingly the Dulux Weathershield instructions expressly say: "If the surface is still powdery after thorough preparation, seal it with a coat of Weathershield Stabilising Primer, but do not seal sound, new or bare surfaces." Slightly ambiguous! Good old Dulux. It's really a question of how porous your new render is rather than how it looks or feels. I suppose if the stabiliser couldn't penetrate, and formed a clear film on the surface, you might have trouble getting the paint to cover well i.e. you'd see brush strokes, but I can't see that happening on normal render. Also, bear in mind that stabiliser is much more penetrative than water. The problem with all water based paints is that they contain solvents which evaporate after the water phase so, although the paint is touch dry, they are still hanging around ensuring proper film formation. If they get sucked into the substrate, you tend to end up with a coating that looks fine but isn't continuous at a microscopic level. |
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Martin Pentreath wrote:
Hi all, I need to paint a rendered extension with some Dulux Weathershield. What is the right proportion to water down the paint by for the initial coat? Cheers! Martin a bit. Till its still got color, but is more opr less watery. IIRC we did it about 2 paint one water. |
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Martin Pentreath wrote:
Interestingly the Dulux Weathershield instructions expressly say: "If the surface is still powdery after thorough preparation, seal it with a coat of Weathershield Stabilising Primer, but do not seal sound, new or bare surfaces." I did get frost damage where I get driving rain..bouncing off flat lintels over the windows etc. ..use a penetrating sealer on north and west exposed areas. |
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