Guys,

I have a wooden sash window that opens outwards. Within the sash
window I have Smart Glass that needs electric current applied to it in
order to activate.

I need a way of getting power across the window frame into the sash
window to activate the smart glass. Mindful that the sash window will
be opened and closed on a regular basis. Simply running a cable thru
the wooden window frame into the sash will not work as the cable is
likely to damaged with continuing opening and closing of the window.

Hope one of you guys can help out.

Thanks.................Ron

A sash window that opens outwards? Do you mean a casement?

"S.O.T" wrote in message
...

I have a wooden sash window that opens outwards.

Eh? Don't sash windows go up and down?

cheers,
clive

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:20:00 UTC, "S.O.T"
wrote:

I have a wooden sash window that opens outwards. Within the sash
window I have Smart Glass that needs electric current applied to it in
order to activate.

If it's a sash window and it opens outwards, it's broken!

I assume you mean a *casement* (opens like a door).

I need a way of getting power across the window frame into the sash
window to activate the smart glass. Mindful that the sash window will
be opened and closed on a regular basis. Simply running a cable thru
the wooden window frame into the sash will not work as the cable is
likely to damaged with continuing opening and closing of the window.

Look at the stuff used to get connections onto doors, e.g. for burglar
alarrms. Two small plastic blocks with a flexible cable running between
them.

For example: http://tinyurl.com/26vu6w

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S.O.T wrote:
Simply running a cable thru
the wooden window frame into the sash will not work as the cable is
likely to damaged with continuing opening and closing of the window.

With an AC power supply, you could site two coils aligned with each
other, one on the frame - the other on the window. Inductive coupling,
no wires!

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Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:20:00 UTC, "S.O.T"
wrote:

I have a wooden sash window that opens outwards. Within the sash
window I have Smart Glass that needs electric current applied to it
in order to activate.

If it's a sash window and it opens outwards, it's broken!

Erm, not really - it's called a casement sash and if it opens out then it
really isn't broken - unless of course it should be a fixed sash or meant to
open inwards!

Sashes are sashes whether on casement windows (sashes on hinges) or cased
windows (sashes sliding vertically using cords and weights to control the
movement).

I assume you mean a *casement* (opens like a door).

The "casement" really refers to the whole window (including sashes) - hence
casement window.

Just being a little more pedantic!

Good night

BRG

S.O.T wrote:
Guys,

I have a wooden sash window that opens outwards. Within the sash
window I have Smart Glass that needs electric current applied to it in
order to activate.

I need a way of getting power across the window frame into the sash
window to activate the smart glass. Mindful that the sash window will
be opened and closed on a regular basis. Simply running a cable thru
the wooden window frame into the sash will not work as the cable is
likely to damaged with continuing opening and closing of the window.

Hope one of you guys can help out.

Thanks.................Ron

I sure can:

Smart glass is a pile of ****.
It was invented, not to save heat or energy, and not to deflect light nor
harmful rays, but mainly to seperate morons from their cash and it almost
always works in this respect, but not much differently from any other glass
in any of the other respects.

Pilkingtons are one of the worlds largest glass producers, do you really
think a small backstreet firm from the back of beyond are going to make a
pile of cash from glass and Pilks are going to sit idly by and let them? -
they are global, they sell more glass globaly than any other.
If this **** worked, they would be on it faster than a slapper on a
premiership footballer - they've even gone 'all-in' on 'self-cleaning' glass
and we all know that's a crock, but at least it's more believable than smart
glass.

Phil L wrote:
S.O.T wrote:
Guys,

I have a wooden sash window that opens outwards. Within the sash
window I have Smart Glass that needs electric current applied to it
in order to activate.

I need a way of getting power across the window frame into the sash
window to activate the smart glass. Mindful that the sash window
will be opened and closed on a regular basis. Simply running a cable
thru
the wooden window frame into the sash will not work as the cable is
likely to damaged with continuing opening and closing of the window.

Hope one of you guys can help out.

Thanks.................Ron

I sure can:

Smart glass is a pile of ****.
It was invented, not to save heat or energy, and not to deflect light
nor harmful rays, but mainly to seperate morons from their cash and
it almost always works in this respect, but not much differently from
any other glass in any of the other respects.

Begging your pardon but surely it works in a *hugely* different way to other
glass.


Pilkingtons are one of the worlds largest glass producers, do you
really think a small backstreet firm from the back of beyond are
going to make a pile of cash from glass and Pilks are going to sit
idly by and let them? - they are global, they sell more glass globaly
than any other. If this **** worked, they would be on it faster than a
slapper on a
premiership footballer - they've even gone 'all-in' on
'self-cleaning' glass and we all know that's a crock, but at least
it's more believable than smart glass.

How long have you worked for Pilkington? ;-)

Tim

S.O.T wrote:

Guys,

I have a wooden sash window that opens outwards. Within the sash
window I have Smart Glass that needs electric current applied to it in
order to activate.

I need a way of getting power across the window frame into the sash
window to activate the smart glass. Mindful that the sash window will
be opened and closed on a regular basis. Simply running a cable thru
the wooden window frame into the sash will not work as the cable is
likely to damaged with continuing opening and closing of the window.

Hope one of you guys can help out.

Thanks.................Ron

You forgot to mention what voltage & current, and whether its needed
when window open as well. These will affect your options.


NT

On Jan 31, 1:08 am, "Phil L" wrote:
S.O.T wrote:
Guys,

I have a wooden sash window that opens outwards. Within the sash
window I have Smart Glass that needs electric current applied to it in
order to activate.

I need a way of getting power across the window frame into the sash
window to activate the smart glass. Mindful that the sash window will
be opened and closed on a regular basis. Simply running a cable thru
the wooden window frame into the sash will not work as the cable is
likely to damaged with continuing opening and closing of the window.

Hope one of you guys can help out.

Thanks.................Ron

I sure can:

Smart glass is a pile of ****.
It was invented, not to save heat or energy, and not to deflect light nor
harmful rays, but mainly to seperate morons from their cash and it almost
always works in this respect, but not much differently from any other glass
in any of the other respects.

Pilkingtons are one of the worlds largest glass producers, do you really
think a small backstreet firm from the back of beyond are going to make a
pile of cash from glass and Pilks are going to sit idly by and let them? -
they are global, they sell more glass globaly than any other.
If this **** worked, they would be on it faster than a slapper on a
premiership footballer - they've even gone 'all-in' on 'self-cleaning' glass
and we all know that's a crock, but at least it's more believable than smart
glass.

Given that the OP needs to get power to his glass, I suspect he is
referring to this kind of Smart Glass...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_glass

.... rather than whatever it is you are having a rant about

Steve

On Jan 31, 1:08 am, "Phil L" wrote:
Pilkingtons are one of the worlds largest glass producers, do you really
think a small backstreet firm from the back of beyond are going to make a
pile of cash from glass and Pilks are going to sit idly by and let them? -
they are global, they sell more glass globaly than any other.
If this **** worked, they would be on it faster than a slapper on a
premiership footballer - they've even gone 'all-in' on 'self-cleaning' glass
and we all know that's a crock, but at least it's more believable than smart
glass.

Erm. Pilkintons do a whole range of 'Smart Glass' - see this PDF:-

http://www.pilkington.com/resources/consmer.pdf


Steve

stevelup wrote:


Given that the OP needs to get power to his glass, I suspect he is
referring to this kind of Smart Glass...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_glass

... rather than whatever it is you are having a rant about


Seems an expensive way to make a blind..oh well.

Steve

On Jan 30, 9:20*pm, "S.O.T" wrote:
Guys,

I have a wooden sash window that opens outwards. Within the sash
window I have Smart Glass that needs electric current applied to it in
order to activate.

I need a way of getting power across the window frame into the sash
window to activate the smart glass. Mindful that the sash window will
be opened and closed on a regular basis. Simply running a cable thru
the wooden window frame into the sash will not work as the cable is
likely to damaged with continuing opening and closing of the window.


So why didn't you sort this out *before* installing the glass?

MBQ

On 30 Jan, 23:52, "BRG" wrote:
Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:20:00 UTC, "S.O.T"
wrote:

I have a wooden sash window that opens outwards. Within the sash
window I have Smart Glass that needs electric current applied to it
in order to activate.

If it's a sash window and it opens outwards, it's broken!

Erm, not really - it's called a casement sash and if it opens out then it
really isn't broken - unless of course it should be a fixed sash or meant to
open inwards!

The OP said "sash window" not "window sash". Many windows have sashes
without being sash windows.

Just being a little more pedantic!

Maybe you are trying too hard at that?

stevelup wrote:
On Jan 31, 1:08 am, "Phil L" wrote:
Pilkingtons are one of the worlds largest glass producers, do you
really think a small backstreet firm from the back of beyond are
going to make a pile of cash from glass and Pilks are going to sit
idly by and let them? - they are global, they sell more glass
globaly than any other.
If this **** worked, they would be on it faster than a slapper on a
premiership footballer - they've even gone 'all-in' on
'self-cleaning' glass and we all know that's a crock, but at least
it's more believable than smart glass.

Erm. Pilkintons do a whole range of 'Smart Glass' - see this PDF:-

http://www.pilkington.com/resources/consmer.pdf


Steve

Yes, that's the 'self cleaning' garbage they've come up with, it doesn't
need plugging in though

Tim Downie wrote:
Phil L wrote:
S.O.T wrote:
Guys,

I have a wooden sash window that opens outwards. Within the sash
window I have Smart Glass that needs electric current applied to it
in order to activate.

I need a way of getting power across the window frame into the sash
window to activate the smart glass. Mindful that the sash window
will be opened and closed on a regular basis. Simply running a cable
thru
the wooden window frame into the sash will not work as the cable is
likely to damaged with continuing opening and closing of the window.

Hope one of you guys can help out.

Thanks.................Ron

I sure can:

Smart glass is a pile of ****.
It was invented, not to save heat or energy, and not to deflect light
nor harmful rays, but mainly to seperate morons from their cash and
it almost always works in this respect, but not much differently from
any other glass in any of the other respects.

Begging your pardon but surely it works in a *hugely* different way
to other glass.

Yes, it needs electricity, and like any other gimmick, it will die on it's
arse.



Pilkingtons are one of the worlds largest glass producers, do you
really think a small backstreet firm from the back of beyond are
going to make a pile of cash from glass and Pilks are going to sit
idly by and let them? - they are global, they sell more glass globaly
than any other. If this **** worked, they would be on it faster than
a slapper on a
premiership footballer - they've even gone 'all-in' on
'self-cleaning' glass and we all know that's a crock, but at least
it's more believable than smart glass.

How long have you worked for Pilkington? ;-)

I don't actually like Pilks, they've been a PITA in the town I live in for
almost a hundred years

wrote:
On 30 Jan, 23:52, "BRG" wrote:
Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:20:00 UTC, "S.O.T"
wrote:

I have a wooden sash window that opens outwards. Within the sash
window I have Smart Glass that needs electric current applied to it
in order to activate.

If it's a sash window and it opens outwards, it's broken!

Erm, not really - it's called a casement sash and if it opens out
then it really isn't broken - unless of course it should be a fixed
sash or meant to open inwards!

The OP said "sash window" not "window sash". Many windows have sashes
without being sash windows.

Just being a little more pedantic!

Maybe you are trying too hard at that?


boltmail,

If you had read my post properly you would have realised that I was not
actually replying to the OP.

Also I was specifically refering to an "EJMA" type window and using a cased
window as an example - but any window that has a sash fitted into it (either
fixed, opening or sliding) is technically a sash window - now if you are
talking of windows where the pane of glass or panel sits directly into a
rebate or planted stops on the frame, then you are correct, that's not a
sash window.

Could you now educate us and elucidate on your: "Many windows have sashes
without being sash windows" and give us the types - and also a definition of
a sash as fitted into a window or combination door frame?


BRG

BRG wrote:
If you had read my post properly you would have realised that I was not
actually replying to the OP.

I read your post properly thanks Mr BRG, and I seem to recall you were
criticising someone's comments on the OP's use of "sash window", not
someone's comments on the OP's use of "window sash".


Also I was specifically refering to an "EJMA" type window and using a cased
window as an example - but any window that has a sash fitted into it (either
fixed, opening or sliding) is technically a sash window - now if you are
talking of windows where the pane of glass or panel sits directly into a
rebate or planted stops on the frame, then you are correct, that's not a
sash window.

Could you now educate us and elucidate on your: "Many windows have sashes
without being sash windows" and give us the types - and also a definition of
a sash as fitted into a window or combination door frame?


I take it back, you don't have to try at all.

If a sash window is a window with a sash, is an engine car any old car
with an engine? Or a television personality, a television's character?
Etc.

A sash window is a box sash window to everyone and their dog, and the
dog's dictionary. Even a Yorkshire sash needs its qualifier. And a
casement can get lost. It isn't a sash window at all, it just has a
part called a sash, it might have a tenon or two but it isn't a tenon
window, it might have some draught stripping but it... etc.