What's the world coming to when our trusted secret services can't properly
bump off someone they don't like? Or maybe they don't like us DIYers so
*they( are presecuting *us* with this c-r'a*p. Anyhow, now that a simple
match to subject line or author doesn't filter out the posts concerned we
need either a more sophisticated newsreader or a news feed that stomps on
such stuff.

I've already been through option 1 trying to read comp.os.linux.misc (which
gets deluged with posts of Racter-like ramblings) and the only option I've
found for Linux is the console-based slrn, which is undoubtedly a fine
newsreader but a steep learning curve from a gui-based one.

Another option which I've resisted so far is to set up a local newsfeed
with the fitering I need, but there are only so many Tuits in a Day sigh

Does that E10pa/used-to-be-free newsserver, or any other
publically-available, reasonably-priced ones, do such filtering?

Could/should we run a uk.d-i-y owned one for ourselves?

--
John Stumbles

I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous

John Stumbles wrote:
What's the world coming to when our trusted secret services can't properly
bump off someone they don't like? Or maybe they don't like us DIYers so
*they( are presecuting *us* with this c-r'a*p. Anyhow, now that a simple
match to subject line or author doesn't filter out the posts concerned we
need either a more sophisticated newsreader or a news feed that stomps on
such stuff.

Hear, hear: there doesn't seem to be a group left that I read that isn't
affected now.

Do you think we could all club together and put out a contract on him,
since MI5 seem unwilling to do the necessary?

I don't know enough about ISPs and newsfeeds etc to know, but how come
he's able to send out this crap with such impunity for so long - can't
anybody trace him and go round and "have a word"?

David

On 2007-12-31 13:47:56 +0000, John Stumbles said:

What's the world coming to when our trusted secret services can't properly
bump off someone they don't like? Or maybe they don't like us DIYers so
*they( are presecuting *us* with this c-r'a*p. Anyhow, now that a simple
match to subject line or author doesn't filter out the posts concerned we
need either a more sophisticated newsreader or a news feed that stomps on
such stuff.

I've already been through option 1 trying to read comp.os.linux.misc (which
gets deluged with posts of Racter-like ramblings) and the only option I've
found for Linux is the console-based slrn, which is undoubtedly a fine
newsreader but a steep learning curve from a gui-based one.

Another option which I've resisted so far is to set up a local newsfeed
with the fitering I need, but there are only so many Tuits in a Day sigh


Does that E10pa/used-to-be-free newsserver,

news.individual.net ? They only carry text and not binary articles.
They also implement "cleanfeed" which is a server side filter.
Details at

http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/...ed/cf-faq.html

I use this one and the preponderance of SPAM postings is relatively low
on this group and several others that I use.

I can remove the rest with news client filters quite easily.

or any other
publically-available, reasonably-priced ones, do such filtering?

In the past, I have implemented and run INN in a commercial
environment. It was quite good but at the time didn't support suck
feeds, so one had to have an ISP willing to provide a news feed as well
as having the server open on the public internet.

I switched to using DNEWS some years ago, mainly because it can use
suck feeds and has good controls and filtering as well.

Essentially, a suck feed is configured in much the same way as a
personal newsreader configuration - user name and password. You can
have several servers if you like. DNEWS then goes out and gets the
complete list of newsgroups from the feed and caches them locally. The
user client is configured as normal, but nothing is downloaded from the
upstream server until a local user subscribes to a group. Then
everything for that group that is available or everything newer than N
days is downloaded and becomes available for access in the usual way.
A cron job kicks off a look for new messages when required - I tend to
use every 5 minutes at peak times and less at other times. There are
configurable settings for how long to store messages on the DNEWS
server and also a timeout to stop downloading if nobody reads a group
for more than N days.

There is also the advantage that one doesn't have to have a server with
port 119 exposed on the public internet - outgoing connections only -
although obviously it will behave as a conventional server as well if
you can get a news feed supply.

There is a comprehensive filter language and worked examples as well.

http://www.netwinsite.com/dnews/rules.htm

A one-user server license is $95 U.S. (about £50) which I think is
pretty good for what it does.

In the past, I have run the server on Win2k, but moved it to a Linux
one more recently. Both work without problems, IME.

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:47:56 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

Does that E10pa/used-to-be-free newsserver, or any other
publically-available, reasonably-priced ones, do such filtering?

I guess you mean news.individual.net, I'm on their server and don't know
what all the fuss is about.

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

Lobster says...
John Stumbles wrote:
What's the world coming to when our trusted secret services can't properly
bump off someone they don't like? Or maybe they don't like us DIYers so
*they( are presecuting *us* with this c-r'a*p. Anyhow, now that a simple
match to subject line or author doesn't filter out the posts concerned we
need either a more sophisticated newsreader or a news feed that stomps on
such stuff.

Hear, hear: there doesn't seem to be a group left that I read that isn't
affected now.

Do you think we could all club together and put out a contract on him,
since MI5 seem unwilling to do the necessary?

I don't know enough about ISPs and newsfeeds etc to know, but how come
he's able to send out this crap with such impunity for so long - can't
anybody trace him and go round and "have a word"?


That will not be necessary. We have had him under
surveillance for several years now and plan to arrest and
imprison him soon.
-
Agent Smith. MI5.

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:44:58 +0000, Andy Hall wrote:

I switched to using DNEWS some years ago, mainly because it can use
suck feeds and has good controls and filtering as well.

I use Leafnode, again a suck feeds server. From Andy's description of
DNEWS they are very similar. Leafnode is under the GNU Library or LGPL,
MIT License so is very cheap...

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

In article , lid
says...
BTW, Mike is easily filtered out with 4 killfile rules. I'm not going to post
them, because Mike is insane, but not stupid. Send me an email if you'd like
them.


A polite word with our ISP has prodded them into filtering him before he
gets to us. Handy, having a small ISP.

--
Skipweasel.
Never knowingly understood.

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 22:16:47 +0000, Skipweasel wrote:

A polite word with our ISP has prodded them into filtering him before he
gets to us. Handy, having a small ISP.

Presumably M-I'5 could get *all* the ISPs to filter him out if they wanted
to?

--
John Stumbles

Time flies like an arrow
Fruit flies like a banana
Tits like coconuts

In article ,
John Stumbles writes:
On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 22:16:47 +0000, Skipweasel wrote:

A polite word with our ISP has prodded them into filtering him before he
gets to us. Handy, having a small ISP.

Presumably M-I'5 could get *all* the ISPs to filter him out if they wanted
to?

They normally do. Probably not many people in the office
over the holiday period...

My ISP filters him out. It happens after hitting the spool
so occasionally I see the odd one, but if I click again,
they're gone. I would guess someone generates cancels for
all his posts and it may be a case of which ISP's honour
them.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]