We want to buy a cheapy fridge freezer (or separate units) for the
garage. I've been reading old threads on this topic and wonder what
the latest views are. My specific questions a

1. Is there a cheapish fridge freezer that will work reliably below
10 degrees C?

2. Will any manual defrost freezer be OK, or is there a problem with
these as well?

3. Has anyone actually bought any products recently that they would
recommend?

Many thanks for any replies.

kent wrote:
We want to buy a cheapy fridge freezer (or separate units) for the
garage. I've been reading old threads on this topic and wonder what
the latest views are. My specific questions a

1. Is there a cheapish fridge freezer that will work reliably below
10 degrees C?

2. Will any manual defrost freezer be OK, or is there a problem with
these as well?

3. Has anyone actually bought any products recently that they would
recommend?

Many thanks for any replies.

I think the main thing to avoid is buying a combined fridge freezer
which has only one thermostat (which AFAIK is most models) - the freezer
switches off when the ambient temp falls below 4 deg C or whatever,
because the fridge thermostat thinks it's cold enough. I've come a
cropper that way myself...

David

kent wrote:
We want to buy a cheapy fridge freezer (or separate units) for the
garage. I've been reading old threads on this topic and wonder what
the latest views are. My specific questions a

1. Is there a cheapish fridge freezer that will work reliably below
10 degrees C?

2. Will any manual defrost freezer be OK, or is there a problem with
these as well?

3. Has anyone actually bought any products recently that they would
recommend?

You need to check with the manufacturers of whatever models you are
considering. They will be able to give you definitive advice.


Peter Crosland

In article ,
kent writes:
We want to buy a cheapy fridge freezer (or separate units) for the
garage. I've been reading old threads on this topic and wonder what
the latest views are. My specific questions a

1. Is there a cheapish fridge freezer that will work reliably below
10 degrees C?

2. Will any manual defrost freezer be OK, or is there a problem with
these as well?

3. Has anyone actually bought any products recently that they would
recommend?

Many thanks for any replies.

I think there were a few potential problems...

Single compressor fridge/freezers often had no thermostatic control
in the freezer, and relied on the fridge thermostat to cause the
compressor to kick in often enough that the freezer remained frozen.
Below about 16C, this didn't happen and the freezer warmed up.
Nowadays, most fridge/freezers are single compressor. Some have an
electronic valve to direct the refrigerant to one of the other so
they have independant temperature control. However, there may be
some of the former type around too. The clue here is to check for
independant temperature controls for the fridge and freezer.

Refrigerant systems are designed to operate over particular
temperature ranges, and domestic appliances are not designed to
operate at outdoor temperatures. Outdoor aircon units have things
like compressor heaters to prevent the lubrication from waxing
up when it gets cold and the compressor may only be called upon
to operate very infrequently.

The casings of domestic appliances will often quickly rust in a
damp environment.

I've got a 7 year old Hotpoint freezer in a garage attached to
the house. It regularly goes below 10C and occationally below
5C. In summer it often goes above 30C. Freezer maintains correct
temperature throughout.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On 02 Dec 2007 11:44:14 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
kent writes:
We want to buy a cheapy fridge freezer (or separate units) for the
garage. I've been reading old threads on this topic and wonder what
the latest views are. My specific questions a

1. Is there a cheapish fridge freezer that will work reliably below
10 degrees C?

2. Will any manual defrost freezer be OK, or is there a problem with
these as well?

3. Has anyone actually bought any products recently that they would
recommend?

Many thanks for any replies.

I think there were a few potential problems...

Single compressor fridge/freezers often had no thermostatic control
in the freezer, and relied on the fridge thermostat to cause the
compressor to kick in often enough that the freezer remained frozen.
Below about 16C, this didn't happen and the freezer warmed up.
Nowadays, most fridge/freezers are single compressor. Some have an
electronic valve to direct the refrigerant to one of the other so
they have independant temperature control. However, there may be
some of the former type around too. The clue here is to check for
independant temperature controls for the fridge and freezer.

Refrigerant systems are designed to operate over particular
temperature ranges, and domestic appliances are not designed to
operate at outdoor temperatures. Outdoor aircon units have things
like compressor heaters to prevent the lubrication from waxing
up when it gets cold and the compressor may only be called upon
to operate very infrequently.

The casings of domestic appliances will often quickly rust in a
damp environment.

I've got a 7 year old Hotpoint freezer in a garage attached to
the house. It regularly goes below 10C and occationally below
5C. In summer it often goes above 30C. Freezer maintains correct
temperature throughout.


I had an SN class freezer (10C) in my garage for years, when it
finally expired I looked for another with the same climate class but
couldn't find one in the shed retailers. Needing one in a hurry I
bought a budget cost frigidaire model with a N class (16C) rating. It
has a termperature display on the front and this is always between -19
and -22C irrespective of whether the external temperature is 5C or
25C. Well pleased with it.

wrote:
On 02 Dec 2007 11:44:14 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:
In article ,
kent writes:

We want to buy a cheapy fridge freezer (or separate units) for the
garage. I've been reading old threads on this topic and wonder what
the latest views are. My specific questions a

1. Is there a cheapish fridge freezer that will work reliably below
10 degrees C?

2. Will any manual defrost freezer be OK, or is there a problem with
these as well?

3. Has anyone actually bought any products recently that they would
recommend?

Many thanks for any replies.

I think there were a few potential problems...

Single compressor fridge/freezers often had no thermostatic control
in the freezer, and relied on the fridge thermostat to cause the
compressor to kick in often enough that the freezer remained frozen.
Below about 16C, this didn't happen and the freezer warmed up.
Nowadays, most fridge/freezers are single compressor. Some have an
electronic valve to direct the refrigerant to one of the other so
they have independant temperature control. However, there may be
some of the former type around too. The clue here is to check for
independant temperature controls for the fridge and freezer.

Refrigerant systems are designed to operate over particular
temperature ranges, and domestic appliances are not designed to
operate at outdoor temperatures. Outdoor aircon units have things
like compressor heaters to prevent the lubrication from waxing
up when it gets cold and the compressor may only be called upon
to operate very infrequently.

The casings of domestic appliances will often quickly rust in a
damp environment.

I've got a 7 year old Hotpoint freezer in a garage attached to
the house. It regularly goes below 10C and occationally below
5C. In summer it often goes above 30C. Freezer maintains correct
temperature throughout.


I had an SN class freezer (10C) in my garage for years, when it
finally expired I looked for another with the same climate class but
couldn't find one in the shed retailers. Needing one in a hurry I
bought a budget cost frigidaire model with a N class (16C) rating. It
has a termperature display on the front and this is always between -19
and -22C irrespective of whether the external temperature is 5C or
25C. Well pleased with it.

There shouldnt be any problem with that keeping temp, the problem
lies elsewhere.

If OP wants a cheap unit, why not pick up separate fridge & freezer
on freecycle.


NT

On Dec 2, 12:17 pm, wrote:
wrote:
On 02 Dec 2007 11:44:14 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:
In article ,
kent writes:
We want to buy a cheapy fridge freezer (or separate units) for the
garage. I've been reading old threads on this topic and wonder what
the latest views are. My specific questions a

1. Is there a cheapish fridge freezer that will work reliably below
10 degrees C?

2. Will any manual defrost freezer be OK, or is there a problem with
these as well?

3. Has anyone actually bought any products recently that they would
recommend?

Many thanks for any replies.

I think there were a few potential problems...

Single compressor fridge/freezers often had no thermostatic control
in the freezer, and relied on the fridge thermostat to cause the
compressor to kick in often enough that the freezer remained frozen.
Below about 16C, this didn't happen and the freezer warmed up.
Nowadays, most fridge/freezers are single compressor. Some have an
electronic valve to direct the refrigerant to one of the other so
they have independant temperature control. However, there may be
some of the former type around too. The clue here is to check for
independant temperature controls for the fridge and freezer.

Refrigerant systems are designed to operate over particular
temperature ranges, and domestic appliances are not designed to
operate at outdoor temperatures. Outdoor aircon units have things
like compressor heaters to prevent the lubrication from waxing
up when it gets cold and the compressor may only be called upon
to operate very infrequently.

The casings of domestic appliances will often quickly rust in a
damp environment.

I've got a 7 year old Hotpoint freezer in a garage attached to
the house. It regularly goes below 10C and occationally below
5C. In summer it often goes above 30C. Freezer maintains correct
temperature throughout.

I had an SN class freezer (10C) in my garage for years, when it
finally expired I looked for another with the same climate class but
couldn't find one in the shed retailers. Needing one in a hurry I
bought a budget cost frigidaire model with a N class (16C) rating. It
has a termperature display on the front and this is always between -19
and -22C irrespective of whether the external temperature is 5C or
25C. Well pleased with it.

There shouldnt be any problem with that keeping temp, the problem
lies elsewhere.

If OP wants a cheap unit, why not pick up separate fridge & freezer
on freecycle.

NT- Hide quoted text -

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freecycle??

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 04:53:04 -0800 (PST), kent
wrote:

On Dec 2, 12:17 pm, wrote:
wrote:
On 02 Dec 2007 11:44:14 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:
In article ,
kent writes:
We want to buy a cheapy fridge freezer (or separate units) for the
garage. I've been reading old threads on this topic and wonder what
the latest views are. My specific questions a

1. Is there a cheapish fridge freezer that will work reliably below
10 degrees C?

2. Will any manual defrost freezer be OK, or is there a problem with
these as well?

3. Has anyone actually bought any products recently that they would
recommend?

Many thanks for any replies.

I think there were a few potential problems...

Single compressor fridge/freezers often had no thermostatic control
in the freezer, and relied on the fridge thermostat to cause the
compressor to kick in often enough that the freezer remained frozen.
Below about 16C, this didn't happen and the freezer warmed up.
Nowadays, most fridge/freezers are single compressor. Some have an
electronic valve to direct the refrigerant to one of the other so
they have independant temperature control. However, there may be
some of the former type around too. The clue here is to check for
independant temperature controls for the fridge and freezer.

Refrigerant systems are designed to operate over particular
temperature ranges, and domestic appliances are not designed to
operate at outdoor temperatures. Outdoor aircon units have things
like compressor heaters to prevent the lubrication from waxing
up when it gets cold and the compressor may only be called upon
to operate very infrequently.

The casings of domestic appliances will often quickly rust in a
damp environment.

I've got a 7 year old Hotpoint freezer in a garage attached to
the house. It regularly goes below 10C and occationally below
5C. In summer it often goes above 30C. Freezer maintains correct
temperature throughout.

I had an SN class freezer (10C) in my garage for years, when it
finally expired I looked for another with the same climate class but
couldn't find one in the shed retailers. Needing one in a hurry I
bought a budget cost frigidaire model with a N class (16C) rating. It
has a termperature display on the front and this is always between -19
and -22C irrespective of whether the external temperature is 5C or
25C. Well pleased with it.

There shouldnt be any problem with that keeping temp, the problem
lies elsewhere.

If OP wants a cheap unit, why not pick up separate fridge & freezer
on freecycle.

NT- Hide quoted text -

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freecycle??

http://www.freecycle.org

..

Refrigerant systems are designed to operate over particular
temperature ranges, and domestic appliances are not designed to
operate at outdoor temperatures. Outdoor aircon units have things
like compressor heaters to prevent the lubrication from waxing
up when it gets cold and the compressor may only be called upon
to operate very infrequently.
--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]


That's not the reason for crankcase heaters..


Cheers

Richard