A difficult one ...

The light-well to my cellar is currently capped with a steel plate and
concrete.

The level of the path (which incorporates this capping) is too high for
the damp course so I'm having it dug up and having clay pavers laid at a
lower level.

It seems to me a wasted opportunity not to install some sort of
'pavement light' into the new path to provide natural light for the
cellar below (I'll add more air bricks for ventilation).

Limitations:

The pavement light needs to be flush with the block paving and able to
bear the weight of someone walking obliquely over it because it's very
close to an outward opening door (having an inward opening door is not
part of the solution space!)

________________________
| | -- kitchen door
| well |
|__________|
|
|
|
|

The void to be spanned is about 3' * 4' and I've been quoted £90 a
square foot for a reinforced concrete solution that incorporates glass
blocks - that's over a thousand squid.

DIY concrete solution:

Put in shuttering from below,
Two layers of rebar (?) mesh separated by spacers
Place waisted glass blocks in the spaces within the mesh matrix
Pour concrete, cross fingers, and wait a couple of weeks

Questions:

What diameter do the rods that comprise the mesh need to be?
What is the cost of such mesh?
For very light pedestrian traffic is two layers of mesh overkill?
How thick does the concrete need to be (obviously as thick as the glass
blocks)?
Is this a dumb idea?
Is there a better solution?

Lots of questions I know :-)

Best wishes,

Rob

]

On 29 Oct, 00:38, Rob Griffiths wrote:
A difficult one ...

The light-well to my cellar is currently capped with a steel plate and
concrete.

The level of the path (which incorporates this capping) is too high for
the damp course so I'm having it dug up and having clay pavers laid at a
lower level.

It seems to me a wasted opportunity not to install some sort of
'pavement light' into the new path to provide natural light for the
cellar below (I'll add more air bricks for ventilation).

Limitations:

The pavement light needs to be flush with the block paving and able to
bear the weight of someone walking obliquely over it because it's very
close to an outward opening door (having an inward opening door is not
part of the solution space!)

________________________
| | -- kitchen door
| well |
|__________|
|
|
|
|

The void to be spanned is about 3' * 4' and I've been quoted £90 a
square foot for a reinforced concrete solution that incorporates glass
blocks - that's over a thousand squid.

DIY concrete solution:

Put in shuttering from below,
Two layers of rebar (?) mesh separated by spacers
Place waisted glass blocks in the spaces within the mesh matrix
Pour concrete, cross fingers, and wait a couple of weeks

Questions:

What diameter do the rods that comprise the mesh need to be?
What is the cost of such mesh?
For very light pedestrian traffic is two layers of mesh overkill?
How thick does the concrete need to be (obviously as thick as the glass
blocks)?
Is this a dumb idea?
Is there a better solution?

Lots of questions I know :-)

Best wishes,

Rob

]

You could try finding the price of walkable glass
http://www.visiongroup.co.uk/portfol....bespokewalkon
is a possible supplier. I'm interested in a similar solution myself
but it's not an immediate requirement. I'll be interested to hear
where this ends up. Email address is as written. Similar products from
http://www.spacedecks.co.uk/products/access.html. I'm sure I saw them
walking on glass in an old 'Grand Designs' project, some oak framed
house. Another one http://www.specialistglass.co.uk/Glass-ideas.asp.
One of these must be useful?!

Fash

Rob,
try googling for pavement cellar light (no brackets) I can't believe
those things cost a grand, but they don't seem to give prices.

Andy

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Andy Champ wrote:

Rob,
try googling for pavement cellar light (no brackets) I can't believe
those things cost a grand, but they don't seem to give prices.


Oh I've done a lot of googling and a lot of phone calling. Getting a
company specialising in pavement lights would definitely cost over a
grand - they're bespoke ...

Rob

"Rob Griffiths" wrote in message

..invalid...
A difficult one ...

The light-well to my cellar is currently capped with a steel plate and
concrete.

The level of the path (which incorporates this capping) is too high for
the damp course so I'm having it dug up and having clay pavers laid at a
lower level.

It seems to me a wasted opportunity not to install some sort of
'pavement light' into the new path to provide natural light for the
cellar below (I'll add more air bricks for ventilation).

Limitations:

The pavement light needs to be flush with the block paving and able to
bear the weight of someone walking obliquely over it because it's very
close to an outward opening door (having an inward opening door is not
part of the solution space!)

________________________
| | -- kitchen door
| well |
|__________|
|
|
|
|

The void to be spanned is about 3' * 4' and I've been quoted £90 a
square foot for a reinforced concrete solution that incorporates glass
blocks - that's over a thousand squid.

DIY concrete solution:

Put in shuttering from below,
Two layers of rebar (?) mesh separated by spacers
Place waisted glass blocks in the spaces within the mesh matrix
Pour concrete, cross fingers, and wait a couple of weeks


I would weld up a grid of inverted T shaped steel, drop loose fitting glass
blocks into that, on rubber, mastic or similar to provide a cushion, and
grout between them with a cement based grout. You could probably also weld
in a couple of flat bars down one side, that were a few millimetre apart and
that came a bit above path level (helps keep water out), to provide a
built-in ventilation slot.

Colin Bignell

Rob Griffiths wrote:

A difficult one ...

The light-well to my cellar is currently capped with a steel plate and
concrete.

The level of the path (which incorporates this capping) is too high for
the damp course so I'm having it dug up and having clay pavers laid at a
lower level.

It seems to me a wasted opportunity not to install some sort of
'pavement light' into the new path to provide natural light for the
cellar below (I'll add more air bricks for ventilation).

Limitations:

The pavement light needs to be flush with the block paving and able to
bear the weight of someone walking obliquely over it because it's very
close to an outward opening door (having an inward opening door is not
part of the solution space!)

________________________
| | -- kitchen door
| well |
|__________|
|
|
|
|

The void to be spanned is about 3' * 4' and I've been quoted £90 a
square foot for a reinforced concrete solution that incorporates glass
blocks - that's over a thousand squid.

DIY concrete solution:

Put in shuttering from below,
Two layers of rebar (?) mesh separated by spacers
Place waisted glass blocks in the spaces within the mesh matrix
Pour concrete, cross fingers, and wait a couple of weeks

Questions:

What diameter do the rods that comprise the mesh need to be?
What is the cost of such mesh?
For very light pedestrian traffic is two layers of mesh overkill?
How thick does the concrete need to be (obviously as thick as the glass
blocks)?
Is this a dumb idea?
Is there a better solution?

Lots of questions I know :-)

Best wishes,

Rob

]

Whatever you do, painting the sides of the glass blocks white before
embedding them will increase your light level.


NT

wrote:
Rob Griffiths wrote:

A difficult one ...

The light-well to my cellar is currently capped with a steel plate and
concrete.

The level of the path (which incorporates this capping) is too high for
the damp course so I'm having it dug up and having clay pavers laid at a
lower level.

It seems to me a wasted opportunity not to install some sort of
'pavement light' into the new path to provide natural light for the
cellar below (I'll add more air bricks for ventilation).

Limitations:

The pavement light needs to be flush with the block paving and able to
bear the weight of someone walking obliquely over it because it's very
close to an outward opening door (having an inward opening door is not
part of the solution space!)

________________________
| | -- kitchen door
| well |
|__________|
|
|
|
|

The void to be spanned is about 3' * 4' and I've been quoted £90 a
square foot for a reinforced concrete solution that incorporates glass
blocks - that's over a thousand squid.

DIY concrete solution:

Put in shuttering from below,
Two layers of rebar (?) mesh separated by spacers
Place waisted glass blocks in the spaces within the mesh matrix
Pour concrete, cross fingers, and wait a couple of weeks

Questions:

What diameter do the rods that comprise the mesh need to be?
What is the cost of such mesh?
For very light pedestrian traffic is two layers of mesh overkill?
How thick does the concrete need to be (obviously as thick as the glass
blocks)?
Is this a dumb idea?
Is there a better solution?

Lots of questions I know :-)

Best wishes,

Rob

]

Whatever you do, painting the sides of the glass blocks white before
embedding them will increase your light level.


NT

and if its next to a wall, a sheet of polished metal or even just
white paint on the wall would add more light input.


NT

Happy to quote and offer advise

Contact Justin
https://thepavementlightcompany.com

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Justin wrote on 10/02/2021 :
Happy to quote and offer advise

Contact Justin
https://thepavementlightcompany.com

Another reply to an ancient post.

He's probably found something in the last 13 years.

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Justin wrote:
Happy to quote and offer advise

€œAdvice€�


Contact Justin
https://thepavementlightspammers.com


13 years after the original question? Cant see it happening.

Tim


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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Justin wrote on 10/02/2021 :
Happy to quote and offer advise

Contact Justin
https://thepavementlightcompany.com

Another reply to an ancient post.

The pavement will likely be a cycle lane by now.

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"Justin" wrote in message
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Happy to quote and offer advise
Contact Justin
https://thepavementlightcompany.com

Unlikely to still need it after 13 years.

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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



Unlikely to still need it after 13 years.

Of course you, the sociopathic megalomaniac, had to chime in again! What a
sick senile idiot you are! BG

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????

what one of them then?
Brian

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"Justin" wrote in message
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Happy to quote and offer advise
Contact Justin
https://thepavementlightcompany.com

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yes but what is it, Now its annoying me.. sulk.
Brian

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Justin wrote on 10/02/2021 :
Happy to quote and offer advise

Contact Justin
https://thepavementlightcompany.com

Another reply to an ancient post.

Perhaps his surname is time?
Justin Time geddit?
Brian

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"Justin" wrote in message
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Unlikely to still need it after 13 years.

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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

Perhaps his surname is time?
Justin Time geddit?

I'd have you publicly flogged for that one if you
hadn't so obviously enjoyed that the last time, boy.

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on 10/02/2021, Brian Gaff (Sofa) supposed :
yes but what is it, Now its annoying me.. sulk.

Those squares of glass you would sometimes see in the pavement, set in
concrete, which allowed light to penetrate through into a basement area
- whilst still allowing people to walk over the top of them.

Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated the question :
Perhaps his surname is time?
Justin Time geddit?

gottit.

On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 18:01:32 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
wrote:

Perhaps his surname is time?
Justin Time geddit?
Brian

According to Company's House, Justin Peter Crooks is their sole
director and "Pavement Light Fixer"

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On 10/02/2021 19:05, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
on 10/02/2021, Brian Gaff (Sofa) supposed :
yes but what is it, Now its annoying me.. sulk.

Those squares of glass you would sometimes see in the pavement, set in
concrete, which allowed light to penetrate through into a basement area
- whilst still allowing people to walk over the top of them.

"Business is looking up" as the lavatory attendant said in the Carry On
film.

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