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£77 for non-existent earth bonding?
Hi
I would really appreciate some help with this: We (foolishly in retrospect) paid a major DIY retailer to supply and fit our bathroom. I say foolishly because having been promised (twice) it would be done in 5 days, the reason why we were happy to pay them, it has actually taken 6 weeks, so far, so we may as well have done most of it ourselves and saved a shed load of cash. Anyway, getting to the point, we have, apparently, according to the invoice, paid £77 for "Supplementary Earth Bonding", now, the only electrical work we have had done is the installation of an elecrtric shower. Looking at the wiring, starting downstairs, I see an earth wire from the meter going to the shower RCD, I then see a wire going up, through the ceiling, into the bathroom, it then goes under our bath and into the wall, up the wall and into the shower, that's it. All additional plumbing is plastic (except the taps), the bath is plastic, the only metal is our original copper water pipes and there appears to be no new additional connection to these. Now I know that earth bonding does *not* mean earthing everything in sight but does anyone have any idea what we have paid £77 for? I suspect absolutely nothing! Again, many thanks for any help. David |
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£77 for non-existent earth bonding?
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:54:10 -0700, DrC
mused: Hi I would really appreciate some help with this: We (foolishly in retrospect) paid a major DIY retailer to supply and fit our bathroom. I say foolishly because having been promised (twice) it would be done in 5 days, the reason why we were happy to pay them, it has actually taken 6 weeks, so far, so we may as well have done most of it ourselves and saved a shed load of cash. Anyway, getting to the point, we have, apparently, according to the invoice, paid £77 for "Supplementary Earth Bonding", now, the only electrical work we have had done is the installation of an elecrtric shower. Looking at the wiring, starting downstairs, I see an earth wire from the meter going to the shower RCD, I then see a wire going up, through the ceiling, into the bathroom, it then goes under our bath and into the wall, up the wall and into the shower, that's it. All additional plumbing is plastic (except the taps), the bath is plastic, the only metal is our original copper water pipes and there appears to be no new additional connection to these. Now I know that earth bonding does *not* mean earthing everything in sight but does anyone have any idea what we have paid £77 for? I suspect absolutely nothing! I'd imagine so, I'd dispute it. I hear many tales of woe about B&Q. -- Regards, Stuart. |
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£77 for non-existent earth bonding?
"Lurch" wrote in message I'd imagine so, I'd dispute it. I hear many tales of woe about B&Q. -- Regards, Stuart. where does it say B & Q ? -- regards |
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£77 for non-existent earth bonding?
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:15:03 GMT, "Urban Legend"
mused: "Lurch" wrote in message I'd imagine so, I'd dispute it. I hear many tales of woe about B&Q. -- Regards, Stuart. where does it say B & Q ? I'd be surprised if it wasn't. -- Regards, Stuart. |
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£77 for non-existent earth bonding?
DrC wrote:
Now I know that earth bonding does *not* mean earthing everything in sight but does anyone have any idea what we have paid £77 for? I suspect absolutely nothing! As others have said it sounds like it, but nevertheless if there is metal pipework within 3 m (horizontally) of the bath and/or shower tray there should be local supplementary bonding between the earth terminal of the shower unit and such pipework. There should also be local supplementary bonding between the shower earth and the earths of any other electrical circuits in the room feeding equipment which is "within the zones". Usually this just means you need a bond to the earth of the lighting circuit, since any fan and shaver point will usually also be on the lighting circuit. However if there is a wall mounted electric heater or towel rail in the zones, fed from a ring circuit, that will also need its earth bonded to the shower earth. The zoned regions end horizontally at 3 m away from the nearest edge of the bath and/or shower tray. Zones 1 and 2 end vertically at 3 m above floor level; these cover the space above and within 600 mm sideways of the bath and/or shower. Between 0.6 and 3 m of the bath/shower you're in Zone 3 which stops 2.25 m above the floor. HTH -- Andy |
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£77 for non-existent earth bonding?
"Lurch" wrote in message
... On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:15:03 GMT, "Urban Legend" mused: "Lurch" wrote in message I'd imagine so, I'd dispute it. I hear many tales of woe about B&Q. -- Regards, Stuart. where does it say B & Q ? I'd be surprised if it wasn't. I would agree. When we were looking at options for the bathroom they told me that there would be 2 charges for this item, one for the electric shower and one for the sink. Bit odd that, as we weren't having a shower....so it show's how good they are! Cheers dan. |
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