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Looking for a battery re-charger for 2700mAh Ni MH AA batteries on a
well known online auction site and can't seem to find one suitable. What output from the charger is sufficient to recharge 4x2700mAh AA batteries. A reply from on LCD charger supplier said the output was 1000mA per channel, so how that recharge a 2700 mAh battery ? I am looking to charge 1-4 2700mAh AA batteries and 1-4 1800mAh AAA batteries. |
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batteries. A reply from on LCD charger supplier said the output was 1000mA per channel, so how that recharge a 2700 mAh battery ? I am In just under 3 hours is the answer. The charge rate dictates only how long it takes to charge the cells, not whether it can or not. looking to charge 1-4 2700mAh AA batteries and 1-4 1800mAh AAA batteries. This is the sort of thing you need: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fast-Smart-Cha...QQcmdZViewItem (I can recommend the cells from this seller as well, they perform very well) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message ... wrote: batteries. A reply from on LCD charger supplier said the output was 1000mA per channel, so how that recharge a 2700 mAh battery ? I am In just under 3 hours is the answer. The charge rate dictates only how long it takes to charge the cells, not whether it can or not. looking to charge 1-4 2700mAh AA batteries and 1-4 1800mAh AAA batteries. This is the sort of thing you need: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fast-Smart-Cha...QQcmdZViewItem (I can recommend the cells from this seller as well, they perform very well) I've just used this seller too - AA & AAA cells, and charger, highly recommended. Martin |
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wrote: Looking for a battery re-charger for 2700mAh Ni MH AA batteries on a well known online auction site and can't seem to find one suitable. What output from the charger is sufficient to recharge 4x2700mAh AA batteries. A reply from on LCD charger supplier said the output was 1000mA per channel, so how that recharge a 2700 mAh battery ? I am looking to charge 1-4 2700mAh AA batteries and 1-4 1800mAh AAA batteries. Within reason, the output current doesn't matter. Just that the lower it is the longer it will take. And I still reckon an overnight charge at 1/10th of the capacity is the kindest on the batteries. -- *Nostalgia isn't what is used to be. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:08:41 -0700, nthng2snet wrote:
Looking for a battery re-charger for 2700mAh Ni MH AA batteries on a well known online auction site and can't seem to find one suitable. What output from the charger is sufficient to recharge 4x2700mAh AA batteries. A reply from on LCD charger supplier said the output was 1000mA per channel, so how that recharge a 2700 mAh battery ? I am looking to charge 1-4 2700mAh AA batteries and 1-4 1800mAh AAA batteries. At 1000mA (i.e. 1A) it would take nominally 2.7 hours to recharge a 2700mAh battery. (Do the sums!) Actually it would take almost half as long again because batteries are far from perfect, but a good charger will keep applying current to a cell until it detects that it is full - whether that's 5 minutes to top up an almost charged one or 5 hours on a completely discharged mega-capacity cell. 7dayshop do an own-branded changer identical to the Vanson "1-hour" 4 x AA/AAA chargers.which I'm very happy with (the Vanson version that is). -- John Stumbles I've got nothing against racists - I just wouldn't want my daughter to marry one |
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 07:24:19 GMT, Bob Martin wrote:
|!in 642258 20070605 230841 wrote: |!Looking for a battery re-charger for 2700mAh Ni MH AA batteries on a |!well known online auction site and can't seem to find one suitable. |!What output from the charger is sufficient to recharge 4x2700mAh AA |!batteries. A reply from on LCD charger supplier said the output was |!1000mA per channel, so how that recharge a 2700 mAh battery ? I am |!looking to charge 1-4 2700mAh AA batteries and 1-4 1800mAh AAA |!batteries. |! |!http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/prod...8a540cf489d772 Which redirects you to a log on page, does not give the product itself. -- Dave Fawthrop sf hyphenologist.co.uk 165 *Free* SF ebooks. 165 Sci Fi books on CDROM, from Project Gutenberg http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page Completely Free to any address in the UK. Contact me on the *above* email address. |
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ups.com... Looking for a battery re-charger for 2700mAh Ni MH AA batteries on a well known online auction site and can't seem to find one suitable. What output from the charger is sufficient to recharge 4x2700mAh AA batteries. A reply from on LCD charger supplier said the output was 1000mA per channel, so how that recharge a 2700 mAh battery ? I am looking to charge 1-4 2700mAh AA batteries and 1-4 1800mAh AAA batteries. No connection with this seller, just a satisfied customer. I bought one of these; Ebay Item No. 290035703991 , or http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Energizer-15-M...QQcmdZViewItem The batteries do, understandbly get quite warm, but the charger has a fan under the batteries which blows air across them to cool them (slightly). I am more than happy with my purchase. Glenn |
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On Jun 6, 12:55 pm, "Glenn" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... Looking for a battery re-charger for 2700mAh Ni MH AA batteries on a well known online auction site and can't seem to find one suitable. What output from the charger is sufficient to recharge 4x2700mAh AA batteries. A reply from on LCD charger supplier said the output was 1000mA per channel, so how that recharge a 2700 mAh battery ? I am looking to charge 1-4 2700mAh AA batteries and 1-4 1800mAh AAA batteries. No connection with this seller, just a satisfied customer. I bought one of these; Ebay Item No. 290035703991 , or http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Energizer-15-M...200mAh-AA-Batt... The batteries do, understandbly get quite warm, but the charger has a fan under the batteries which blows air across them to cool them (slightly). I am more than happy with my purchase. Glenn How long have you had it? How many times have you used in on any particular cell? MBQ |
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wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 6, 12:55 pm, "Glenn" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Looking for a battery re-charger for 2700mAh Ni MH AA batteries on a well known online auction site and can't seem to find one suitable. What output from the charger is sufficient to recharge 4x2700mAh AA batteries. A reply from on LCD charger supplier said the output was 1000mA per channel, so how that recharge a 2700 mAh battery ? I am looking to charge 1-4 2700mAh AA batteries and 1-4 1800mAh AAA batteries. No connection with this seller, just a satisfied customer. I bought one of these; Ebay Item No. 290035703991 , or http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Energizer-15-M...200mAh-AA-Batt... The batteries do, understandbly get quite warm, but the charger has a fan under the batteries which blows air across them to cool them (slightly). I am more than happy with my purchase. Glenn How long have you had it? How many times have you used in on any particular cell? MBQ Had it 6-9 months or so. I have not charged any individual cell more than about 10 times. I do only use branded cells though. I have not noticed any ill effects on the batteries in this fairly limited test. Glenn |
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GM6TRS wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message ... wrote: batteries. A reply from on LCD charger supplier said the output was 1000mA per channel, so how that recharge a 2700 mAh battery ? I am In just under 3 hours is the answer. The charge rate dictates only how long it takes to charge the cells, not whether it can or not. looking to charge 1-4 2700mAh AA batteries and 1-4 1800mAh AAA batteries. This is the sort of thing you need: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fast-Smart-Cha...QQcmdZViewItem (I can recommend the cells from this seller as well, they perform very well) I've just used this seller too - AA & AAA cells, and charger, highly recommended. Martin Why doe he say 2700mAh when the batteries clearly show 2600mAh? -- ThePunisher |
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On 2007-06-06, Glenn wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 6, 12:55 pm, "Glenn" wrote: No connection with this seller, just a satisfied customer. I bought one of these; Ebay Item No. 290035703991 , or http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Energizer-15-M...200mAh-AA-Batt... The batteries do, understandbly get quite warm, but the charger has a fan under the batteries which blows air across them to cool them (slightly). I am more than happy with my purchase. How long have you had it? How many times have you used in on any particular cell? Had it 6-9 months or so. I have not charged any individual cell more than about 10 times. I do only use branded cells though. I have not noticed any ill effects on the batteries in this fairly limited test. I have a Vanson V-6000. It works fine. It fast charges AA NiMH cells at about 2000 mA before dropping back to trickle (on delta-V, on over-temperature sense, or on a safety timeout). However I recently had to discard three out of a set of eight "unknown brand" AA NiMH cells after about six cycles. They started to emit the odd sharp "crack" when on fast charge. The "cracks" even continued for a short while after removing the cells from the charger. I have cells of two other brands that continue to charge uneventfully. I have the same suspicion as above that fast chargers might best be partnered with "trusted brand" cells. -- John Phillips |
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John Phillips wrote: I have the same suspicion as above that fast chargers might best be partnered with "trusted brand" cells. I wonder why everyone seems to want the complication of fast charging? I can understand a tradesman needing it for a much used drill, etc, but why with AA cells? What piece of equipment that uses these would benefit from a 1 hour charge? All the things I use these for last for more than a day - so a spare set of batteries and an overnight charge does just fine. -- *Why do psychics have to ask you for your name? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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ThePunisher wrote:
Why doe he say 2700mAh when the batteries clearly show 2600mAh? Wron photo perhaps: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/16-x-AA-2700mA...QQcmdZViewItem -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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I was under the impression that a 2700 maH cell needed 1.4 times its
capacity put in to fully recharge from flat i.e. approx 4000 mah, so at 1000 maH charging current that would be 4 hours.... or are NiMH cells 100% efficient now in converting charge current ? Nick |
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Nick wrote: I was under the impression that a 2700 maH cell needed 1.4 times its capacity put in to fully recharge from flat i.e. approx 4000 mah, so at 1000 maH charging current that would be 4 hours.... or are NiMH cells 100% efficient now in converting charge current ? 1.4 times is certainly a 'benchmark' for recharging - you use 14 hours at a 1/10th rate with Ni-Cads. Whether it applies at other charge rates and battery types I dunno. -- *No hand signals. Driver on Viagra* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:18:48 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I wonder why everyone seems to want the complication of fast charging? Because Sod's law decrees that just when you're about to take out your digicam, r/c toy or whatever you realise you haven't recharged the batteries for ages and you'd better do it now. That's when being able to slap them in the Vanson and get green LEDs within 10 or 20 minutes is _much_ more convenient than waiting 14 hours! As for the "complication", why does everyone want the complication of a mobile phone? It's only complicated to the designer: for the user it makes life simpler. -- John Stumbles A backstreet vasectomy left me sterile |
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John Stumbles wrote: I wonder why everyone seems to want the complication of fast charging? Because Sod's law decrees that just when you're about to take out your digicam, r/c toy or whatever you realise you haven't recharged the batteries for ages and you'd better do it now. That's when being able to slap them in the Vanson and get green LEDs within 10 or 20 minutes is _much_ more convenient than waiting 14 hours! I can see that with something like a camcorder. But the question was about AA cells which must be being used in something which doesn't have its own charger etc. So will require the discipline of changing batteries and also having spares? As for the "complication", why does everyone want the complication of a mobile phone? It's only complicated to the designer: for the user it makes life simpler. But don't the design of these allow for easy recharging - you just plug them in at the end of the day? Of course I don't use my mobile as much as most. -- *Why do they put Braille on the drive-through bank machines? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 07/06/2007 10:00, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I can see that with something like a camcorder. But the question was about AA cells which must be being used in something which doesn't have its own charger etc. Because once you start out with rechargeables you tend to make a /point/ of buying things that will re-use AA batteries, OK so most remote controls use them anyway, but I've been picky when choosing wireless mice, cameras, central heating programmers, torches, radios. Psion lost that and other battles for PDAs though. Same applies for memory cards, I try to avoid anything other than CF or SD/MMC. |
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Andy Burns wrote: I can see that with something like a camcorder. But the question was about AA cells which must be being used in something which doesn't have its own charger etc. Because once you start out with rechargeables you tend to make a /point/ of buying things that will re-use AA batteries, OK so most remote controls use them anyway, but I've been picky when choosing wireless mice, cameras, central heating programmers, torches, radios. Psion lost that and other battles for PDAs though. Well yes. Same as me. Which means you will keep some ready charged ones as spares. If your mouse doesn't work waiting even half an hour would be a pain. But if you do have spares, an overnight charger then is no inconvenience. With the considerable benefit of longer cell life. -- *Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 07/06/2007 10:55, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Well yes. Same as me. Which means you will keep some ready charged ones as spares. I have a fast 4xAA/AAA charger with fan (can also run from 12V car socket) and a larger AA/AAA/C/D/PP3 charger With the considerable benefit of longer cell life. My oldest cells are about 3 years old, and all seem to hold+deliver charge well, the "mere" 2200mAH ones tend to get side-lined in favour of the 2500 and 2700 ones though. |
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:55:16 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
... With the considerable benefit of longer cell life. But is that so? Modern intelligent chargers should cut off at the fully-charged point and maybe trickle after that, whereas AIUI overcharging NiMHs at even C10 isn't good for them. -- John Stumbles A backstreet vasectomy left me sterile |
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