is it possible to create a static field ?

want to make a cat deterant and figured a static shock would stop them
sh*tting on my plants

I recall seeing something on the net about a copper wire running along
the top of a wall but can't remember how it worked

does anyone have a clue as to how it works/can be made ?

thanks

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is it possible to create a static field ?

want to make a cat deterant and figured a static shock would stop them
sh*tting on my plants

I recall seeing something on the net about a copper wire running along
the top of a wall but can't remember how it worked

does anyone have a clue as to how it works/can be made ?

You want an electric fence generator as used by farmers.
I can't guarantee it won't make the cats fall off and get hurt but it will
stop them.

It works on kids too.

wrote in message
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is it possible to create a static field ?

want to make a cat deterant and figured a static shock would stop them
sh*tting on my plants

I recall seeing something on the net about a copper wire running along
the top of a wall but can't remember how it worked

does anyone have a clue as to how it works/can be made ?

thanks

I hate cats

I do not fully understand why there is a fine for not clearing up your dogs
crap but that cats can crap where they like with impunity

I am tempted to collect all of the crap from my neighbours cat and post it
back through their letter box. Their cat their crap

If I was going to run wires I would get electric fence gear from an
agricultural merchant and do the job that way

Supersoaker full of urine

Black widow catapult and 1/2 inch marble

Tony

"TMC" wrote in message
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wrote in message
ups.com...
is it possible to create a static field ?

want to make a cat deterant and figured a static shock would stop
them
sh*tting on my plants

I recall seeing something on the net about a copper wire running
along
the top of a wall but can't remember how it worked

does anyone have a clue as to how it works/can be made ?

thanks

I hate cats

I do not fully understand why there is a fine for not clearing up
your dogs
crap but that cats can crap where they like with impunity

I am tempted to collect all of the crap from my neighbours cat and
post it
back through their letter box. Their cat their crap

If I was going to run wires I would get electric fence gear from an
agricultural merchant and do the job that way

Supersoaker full of urine

Black widow catapult and 1/2 inch marble

Tony



I believe that cats are classified as wild animals - certainly ours
are fairly wild !

AWEM

"TMC" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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is it possible to create a static field ?

want to make a cat deterant and figured a static shock would stop them
sh*tting on my plants

I recall seeing something on the net about a copper wire running along
the top of a wall but can't remember how it worked

does anyone have a clue as to how it works/can be made ?

thanks

I hate cats

I do not fully understand why there is a fine for not clearing up your
dogs crap but that cats can crap where they like with impunity

They are classed as vermin.
You can get rid of them as long as you are not cruel to them.
You are not allowed to cause unecessary suffering to any animal.
If the owners refuse t control them just take it to the RSPCA and have it
put down.

On 2007-06-05 16:32:50 +0100, "dennis@home"
said:


"TMC" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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is it possible to create a static field ?

want to make a cat deterant and figured a static shock would stop them
sh*tting on my plants

I recall seeing something on the net about a copper wire running along
the top of a wall but can't remember how it worked

does anyone have a clue as to how it works/can be made ?

thanks

I hate cats

I do not fully understand why there is a fine for not clearing up your
dogs crap but that cats can crap where they like with impunity

They are classed as vermin.

Are you quite sure about that? Do you have a reference to a statute
covering it?


You can get rid of them as long as you are not cruel to them.


Are you quite sure about that? Do you have a reference to a statute
covering it?


You are not allowed to cause unecessary suffering to any animal.

That is true.


If the owners refuse t control them just take it to the RSPCA and have it
put down.

The outcome for the cat would not be your decision.

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On 2007-06-05 16:32:50 +0100, "dennis@home"
said:


"TMC" wrote in message
...

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is it possible to create a static field ?


If the owners refuse t control them just take it to the RSPCA and have it
put down.

The outcome for the cat would not be your decision.

You would also look a little stupid if the cat is chipped and is shown as
living at a neighbours address. You might even get a visit from the police.

Adam

On Jun 5, 3:43 pm, "TMC" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com... is it possible to create a static field ?

want to make a cat deterant and figured a static shock would stop them
sh*tting on my plants

I recall seeing something on the net about a copper wire running along
the top of a wall but can't remember how it worked

does anyone have a clue as to how it works/can be made ?

thanks

I hate cats

I do not fully understand why there is a fine for not clearing up your dogs
crap but that cats can crap where they like with impunity.

If I was going to run wires I would get electric fence gear from an
agricultural merchant and do the job that way

Black widow catapult and 1/2 inch marble

I tried the catapult. Make marks on the window to help you judge your
aim. I found that one at eye level and a couple 2" above and below
helped a great deal but your mileage will vary.

The cats soon get to know the sounds of windows opening, the flick of
the band and whizz of glass orbs. I would practice with about three
cans at the appropriate places for a few evenings.

Having something loud and clackety that you can aim at instead or
besides the vermin is nearly as good as a boost up their backside to
help them over the fence.

I have 6' x 6' panels, they work a treat. There is something
immediately satisfying and moreish about a cat suddenly alerted to its
preferred options.

On Jun 5, 6:07 pm, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message

...

On 2007-06-05 16:32:50 +0100, "dennis@home"
said:

"TMC" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
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is it possible to create a static field ?

If the owners refuse t control them just take it to the RSPCA and have it
put down.

The outcome for the cat would not be your decision.

You would also look a little stupid if the cat is chipped and is shown as
living at a neighbours address. You might even get a visit from the police.

The obvious thing to do in that case is to ask if the vermin is
someone's pet or just a vagabond that has take a ****e to your garden.

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On 2007-06-05 16:32:50 +0100, "dennis@home"
said:


"TMC" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...
is it possible to create a static field ?

want to make a cat deterant and figured a static shock would stop them
sh*tting on my plants

I recall seeing something on the net about a copper wire running along
the top of a wall but can't remember how it worked

does anyone have a clue as to how it works/can be made ?

thanks

I hate cats

I do not fully understand why there is a fine for not clearing up your
dogs crap but that cats can crap where they like with impunity

They are classed as vermin.

Are you quite sure about that? Do you have a reference to a statute
covering it?

Well take road law for an example...
if you hit a dog you are required to report it..
if its a cat you can just leave it where it is.



You can get rid of them as long as you are not cruel to them.


Are you quite sure about that? Do you have a reference to a statute
covering it?

Vermin like rats.

You are not allowed to cause unecessary suffering to any animal.

That is true.


If the owners refuse t control them just take it to the RSPCA and have it
put down.

The outcome for the cat would not be your decision.

It will be if the chilli oil in the water pistol doesn't work.

You have to go round the garden and urinate in several places. This marks it
as your territory and the cat will keep out, It may be best to do this at
night when all the neighbours have gone to bed or you could end up in nick.

.. As an alternative you can buy "tiger ****" from some Zoos which really
keeps them out.

Sam Farrell
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
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On Jun 5, 3:43 pm, "TMC" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com... is it
possible to create a static field ?

want to make a cat deterant and figured a static shock would stop them
sh*tting on my plants

I recall seeing something on the net about a copper wire running along
the top of a wall but can't remember how it worked

does anyone have a clue as to how it works/can be made ?

thanks

I hate cats

I do not fully understand why there is a fine for not clearing up your
dogs
crap but that cats can crap where they like with impunity.

If I was going to run wires I would get electric fence gear from an
agricultural merchant and do the job that way

Black widow catapult and 1/2 inch marble

I tried the catapult. Make marks on the window to help you judge your
aim. I found that one at eye level and a couple 2" above and below
helped a great deal but your mileage will vary.

The cats soon get to know the sounds of windows opening, the flick of
the band and whizz of glass orbs. I would practice with about three
cans at the appropriate places for a few evenings.

Having something loud and clackety that you can aim at instead or
besides the vermin is nearly as good as a boost up their backside to
help them over the fence.

I have 6' x 6' panels, they work a treat. There is something
immediately satisfying and moreish about a cat suddenly alerted to its
preferred options.

On 5 Jun, 14:52, wrote:

is it possible to create a static field ?

want to make a cat deterant and figured a static shock would stop them
sh*tting on my plants

I recall seeing something on the net about a copper wire running along
the top of a wall but can't remember how it worked

does anyone have a clue as to how it works/can be made ?

thanks

For the sensible options, consider
a) PIR + solenoid + water sprayer
b) Or for a seedbed only, lots of upright sticks stuck in teh soil
every 5"

The sillier sugestions are likely to land you in trouble with the law
and/or your nieghbour.


NT

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On 5 Jun, 14:52, wrote:

is it possible to create a static field ?

want to make a cat deterant and figured a static shock would stop them
sh*tting on my plants

I recall seeing something on the net about a copper wire running along
the top of a wall but can't remember how it worked

does anyone have a clue as to how it works/can be made ?

thanks

For the sensible options, consider
a) PIR + solenoid + water sprayer
b) Or for a seedbed only, lots of upright sticks stuck in teh soil
every 5"

The sillier sugestions are likely to land you in trouble with the law
and/or your nieghbour.


NT

I shoot pigeons when they attack my vegetables
Other people breed pigeons for racing

I kill squirrels when they get into my roof space and attack the joists
People encourage squirrels with food

I kill mice when they attempt to chew through cables in my utility room
my neighbour has pet mice

I kill rabbits when they eat the whole row of seedlings I have just planted
my other neighbour has pet rabbits in cages

I kill grass snakes when they take frogs from my pond
My friend keeps snakes in a tank in his lounge

I breed chinchillas as pets

Farmers legally shoot dogs who worry their livestock

Why should I be considered silly when I kill a cat for scooping fish out of
my pond, crapping amongst my vegetables or crapping where my children play?

Tony

Our cats stay in, because I care about the safety of the neighbours - ie
they hurt our cats I hurt the neighbours. Simple. And no I'm not joking.

Lee
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"Lee" wrote in message
...
Our cats stay in, because I care about the safety of the neighbours - ie
they hurt our cats I hurt the neighbours. Simple. And no I'm not joking.

Lee
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Email address is valid, but is unlikely to be read.

Its good to hear from a responsible cat owner

As you cats do not cause harm to others there is no need for them to harm
your cats

I have always believed in keeping my pets under control and at the same time
keeping them from harm by others

I just wish more cat owners would keep their cats under control.

Perhaps them we would also have wild birds back in our gardens

Tony

On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:52:51 +0100, Andy Hall wrote:

On 2007-06-05 16:32:50 +0100, "dennis@home"

They are classed as vermin.

Are you quite sure about that?

Probably, because old "Dennis the Safety Chicken" is always very, very
sure about everything.

Do you have a reference to a statute
covering it?

No, because as usual he's talking complete ********. Cats are treated
as wild animals (i.e. uncontrollable and unconfinable) under many laws,
but certainly not as vermin.

Cats have been recognised as property and to have monetary value since
the Laws of Hywel Dda a pre-Conquest Welsh lawbook (defined as four
pence, or a third less if it can't catch mice)

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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:52:51 +0100, Andy Hall wrote:

On 2007-06-05 16:32:50 +0100, "dennis@home"

They are classed as vermin.

Are you quite sure about that?

Probably, because old "Dennis the Safety Chicken" is always very, very
sure about everything.

Do you have a reference to a statute
covering it?

No, because as usual he's talking complete ********. Cats are treated
as wild animals (i.e. uncontrollable and unconfinable) under many laws,
but certainly not as vermin.

They are treated as wild animals anywhere that injuring them would be a
problem to others.. like being run over.
Just as well really because they are pretty dumb.
They are lucky that their natural habits are mistaken for affection by some
people.


Cats have been recognised as property and to have monetary value since
the Laws of Hywel Dda a pre-Conquest Welsh lawbook (defined as four
pence, or a third less if it can't catch mice)

Wan't that so they could be taxed?

--
Cats have nine lives, which is why they rarely post to Usenet.

"Lee" wrote in message
...
Our cats stay in, because I care about the safety of the neighbours - ie
they hurt our cats I hurt the neighbours. Simple. And no I'm not joking.


Kicked my neighbours into hospital but that was not about the cats.
Protect your cats and hurt the neighbours. I find size 10 steel toes capped
boots work well along with a good solicitor to get you out.

Adam

On 2007-06-05 18:07:08 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
said:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message ...
On 2007-06-05 16:32:50 +0100, "dennis@home"
said:


"TMC" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
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is it possible to create a static field ?


If the owners refuse t control them just take it to the RSPCA and have it
put down.

The outcome for the cat would not be your decision.

You would also look a little stupid if the cat is chipped and is shown
as living at a neighbours address. You might even get a visit from the
police.

Adam

Exactly. All of mine are chipped for this among a number of other
reasons. I would make certain that there was a police visit.
RSPCA and many animal rescue places either have or have access to chip
readers.

On 2007-06-05 19:28:47 +0100, "dennis@home"
said:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On 2007-06-05 16:32:50 +0100, "dennis@home"
said:

They are classed as vermin.

Are you quite sure about that? Do you have a reference to a statute
covering it?

Well take road law for an example...
if you hit a dog you are required to report it..
if its a cat you can just leave it where it is.

You didn't answer the question.





You can get rid of them as long as you are not cruel to them.


Are you quite sure about that? Do you have a reference to a statute
covering it?

Vermin like rats.

You still didn't answer the question



You are not allowed to cause unecessary suffering to any animal.

That is true.


If the owners refuse t control them just take it to the RSPCA and have it
put down.

The outcome for the cat would not be your decision.

It will be if the chilli oil in the water pistol doesn't work.

Mr. Sophisticated I see....

On 2007-06-05 19:33:18 +0100, "Sam Farrell" sam_farrell@nomail .com said:

You have to go round the garden and urinate in several places.

I imagine that Dennis does that anyway



This marks it
as your territory and the cat will keep out, It may be best to do this at
night when all the neighbours have gone to bed or you could end up in nick.

. As an alternative you can buy "tiger ****" from some Zoos which really
keeps them out.

Sam Farrell


Your confusing it with lion dung, and no it doesn't. It's a rather
silly exercise which will attract the environmental health people.

On 2007-06-05 21:01:52 +0100, "TMC" said:



I just wish more cat owners would keep their cats under control.

Keeping cats "under control" is not related to keeping them indoors



Perhaps them we would also have wild birds back in our gardens

Another myth. Wild birds are perfectly capable of avoiding the
attentions of cats.

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:52:51 +0100, Andy Hall wrote:

On 2007-06-05 16:32:50 +0100, "dennis@home"

They are classed as vermin.

Are you quite sure about that?

Probably, because old "Dennis the Safety Chicken" is always very, very
sure about everything.

Do you have a reference to a statute
covering it?

No, because as usual he's talking complete ********. Cats are treated
as wild animals (i.e. uncontrollable and unconfinable) under many laws,
but certainly not as vermin.

They are treated as wild animals anywhere that injuring them would be a
problem to others.. like being run over.
Just as well really because they are pretty dumb.
They are lucky that their natural habits are mistaken for affection by
some people.


Cats have been recognised as property and to have monetary value since
the Laws of Hywel Dda a pre-Conquest Welsh lawbook (defined as four
pence, or a third less if it can't catch mice)

Wan't that so they could be taxed?

How would they pay?

Adam

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On 2007-06-05 16:32:50 +0100, "dennis@home"
said:


"TMC" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...
is it possible to create a static field ?

want to make a cat deterant and figured a static shock would stop them
sh*tting on my plants

I recall seeing something on the net about a copper wire running along
the top of a wall but can't remember how it worked

does anyone have a clue as to how it works/can be made ?

thanks

I hate cats

I do not fully understand why there is a fine for not clearing up your
dogs crap but that cats can crap where they like with impunity

They are classed as vermin.

Are you quite sure about that? Do you have a reference to a statute
covering it?

Well take road law for an example...
if you hit a dog you are required to report it..
if its a cat you can just leave it where it is.

I would take any animal I hit with a car to a vet (1). If I hit and killed a
cat I would also take it to a vet to see if it was chipped and then the
owner (servant is the correct name as I have read the book) would know what
happened to it. The same applies for dead cats I pass at the roadside.

Adam

(1) I did hit and injure a badger once. It was in pain and unable to walk
and I was far too scared to put it in my car. I think I would have lost my
fingers or maybe more the way it tried to bite me. I got the RSPCA to come
out. They had it put to sleep at the roadside due to a broken back.

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
.. .

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:52:51 +0100, Andy Hall wrote:

On 2007-06-05 16:32:50 +0100, "dennis@home"

They are classed as vermin.

Are you quite sure about that?

Probably, because old "Dennis the Safety Chicken" is always very, very
sure about everything.

Do you have a reference to a statute
covering it?

No, because as usual he's talking complete ********. Cats are treated
as wild animals (i.e. uncontrollable and unconfinable) under many laws,
but certainly not as vermin.

They are treated as wild animals anywhere that injuring them would be a
problem to others.. like being run over.
Just as well really because they are pretty dumb.
They are lucky that their natural habits are mistaken for affection by
some people.


Cats have been recognised as property and to have monetary value since
the Laws of Hywel Dda a pre-Conquest Welsh lawbook (defined as four
pence, or a third less if it can't catch mice)

Wan't that so they could be taxed?

How would they pay?

How did windows pay tax?

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
.. .

I would take any animal I hit with a car to a vet (1). If I hit and killed
a cat I would also take it to a vet to see if it was chipped and then the
owner (servant is the correct name as I have read the book) would know
what happened to it. The same applies for dead cats I pass at the
roadside.

I have only ever managed to hit a pigeon despite doing half a million miles.
I didn't stop to see if it was OK as I was doing 70 and it was doing 50 in
the opposite direction and there was a really big bang followed by a cloud
of feathers. It scared the sh!t out of me though.

wrote:
is it possible to create a static field ?

want to make a cat deterant and figured a static shock would stop them
sh*tting on my plants

I recall seeing something on the net about a copper wire running along
the top of a wall but can't remember how it worked

does anyone have a clue as to how it works/can be made ?

The H.T. coil from the back of an old monitor makes a BIG spark even
when powered from a 12V battery IIRC.

I know a man who tells a story about such a "cat-fence" run around his
fathers Koi pond to deter a very persistent cat.

Needless to say the cat got a whack, it flew in the air but landed on
the wrong side of the fence i.e. in wiv de fishies.

Couldn't get out of the pond because of the fence and it was wet .....

1 stiff moggie had to be cremated in his works incinerator disguised as
some old sacking.

I should add that absolutely every other means of disuation had been
tried without success.

Pete
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:36:39 GMT, ARWadsworth wrote:

I would take any animal I hit with a car to a vet (1).

You'd make pretty slow progess up here then. Either having to drive slowly
to avoid the wildlife and driving, slowly, to the vet.

Every morning there are a good half dozen or so fresh road kills, mostly
rabbits, on the 2 mile trip to town. They have all been flattened out by
the end of the day to make way for the overnight replacements. Some
stretches of road can have half a dozen in 200 yds. Go out around dawn and
the road can have a couple of dozen bobbing white tails scattering about.

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