Does anyone have a definitive interpretation of permitted development
rights in terms of an extension which is more than 4m high and within
2m of the boundary?
The 4m rule is when part of the extension is higher than 4m AND within
2m of the boundary. So it is possible to build higher that 4m if kept
2m from the boundary.

Is the interpretation of the 4m rule, that "no part exceeding 4m high
can be within 2m of the boundary", or is it "no part of the extension
as a whole, can be within 2m of the boundary"?

If the latter, is it possible to build the gound floor as 'one
extension' under PD, and then add the upper floor as a 'second
extension' still under PD? Both extensions will be within the PD
volume allowance

For example, if one extension was built first (ie a ground floor
extension), then if a first floor extension was added later (albeit
straight away) then is this taken as a separate extension in the
context of "an extension higher than 4m and within 2m of the
boundary". Or are both the extensions deemed to be one 2-storey
extension?

In effect, two extensions will be built and my reading of the GPDO 95,
is that it is the part of the building which is enlarged (ie the first
floor) which is the crucial factor.

The wording of the GPDO is vague. I am looking at it as two extensions
- one will be built within 2m of the boundary but under 4m high, the
second will be built more than 2m from the boundary but more than 4m
high.

Individually, both will be PD, but the fact that they are joined, may
be open to interpretation that they become a single extension - in
which case it will then be within 2m of the boundary and not PD.

Cheers

dg

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
dg wrote:

Does anyone have a definitive interpretation of permitted development
rights in terms of an extension which is more than 4m high and within
2m of the boundary?
The 4m rule is when part of the extension is higher than 4m AND within
2m of the boundary. So it is possible to build higher that 4m if kept
2m from the boundary.

Is the interpretation of the 4m rule, that "no part exceeding 4m high
can be within 2m of the boundary", or is it "no part of the extension
as a whole, can be within 2m of the boundary"?

If the latter, is it possible to build the gound floor as 'one
extension' under PD, and then add the upper floor as a 'second
extension' still under PD? Both extensions will be within the PD
volume allowance

For example, if one extension was built first (ie a ground floor
extension), then if a first floor extension was added later (albeit
straight away) then is this taken as a separate extension in the
context of "an extension higher than 4m and within 2m of the
boundary". Or are both the extensions deemed to be one 2-storey
extension?

In effect, two extensions will be built and my reading of the GPDO 95,
is that it is the part of the building which is enlarged (ie the first
floor) which is the crucial factor.

The wording of the GPDO is vague. I am looking at it as two extensions
- one will be built within 2m of the boundary but under 4m high, the
second will be built more than 2m from the boundary but more than 4m
high.

Individually, both will be PD, but the fact that they are joined, may
be open to interpretation that they become a single extension - in
which case it will then be within 2m of the boundary and not PD.

Cheers

dg

Dunno! Wouldn't it be easier just to apply for planning permission, and do
it all in one go? In the unlikely event that it gets refused, you can then
start negotiating based on what you would be able to do within the permitted
development rules.
--
Cheers,
Roger
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
dg wrote:

Does anyone have a definitive interpretation of permitted development
rights in terms of an extension which is more than 4m high and within
2m of the boundary?

You will need planning permission.

The 4m rule is when part of the extension is higher than 4m AND within
2m of the boundary. So it is possible to build higher that 4m if kept
2m from the boundary.

You will need PP.


Is the interpretation of the 4m rule, that "no part exceeding 4m high
can be within 2m of the boundary", or is it "no part of the extension
as a whole, can be within 2m of the boundary"?

You will need PP if the extension or outbuilding

Has a ridge height (highest point of the roof of 4m abve the ground
level*)
or
Any part is 2m from a boundary
or
in front of the original building if 10m from a road
or
would add more than 30% to the original house (earliest of as built or
as in 1948).
and so on...

Get or down load the guide.


If the latter, is it possible to build the gound floor as 'one
extension' under PD, and then add the upper floor as a 'second
extension' still under PD? Both extensions will be within the PD
volume allowance


as long as rifge 4m etc. as above.


For example, if one extension was built first (ie a ground floor
extension), then if a first floor extension was added later (albeit
straight away) then is this taken as a separate extension in the
context of "an extension higher than 4m and within 2m of the
boundary". Or are both the extensions deemed to be one 2-storey
extension?

In effect, two extensions will be built and my reading of the GPDO 95,
is that it is the part of the building which is enlarged (ie the first
floor) which is the crucial factor.

The wording of the GPDO is vague. I am looking at it as two extensions
- one will be built within 2m of the boundary but under 4m high, the
second will be built more than 2m from the boundary but more than 4m
high.

Individually, both will be PD, but the fact that they are joined, may
be open to interpretation that they become a single extension - in
which case it will then be within 2m of the boundary and not PD.

Cheers

dg

Dunno! Wouldn't it be easier just to apply for planning permission, and do
it all in one go? In the unlikely event that it gets refused, you can then
start negotiating based on what you would be able to do within the
permitted development rules.
--
Cheers,
Roger
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* more complicated definition of this to prevent you piling earth up around
the perimeter to evade the rule.