If it's not Islamic loonies, it's World Ultimate Fighting, M15 Persecution
or Beware UK Scammers.

Is there anything one can do about this - other that block the sender.
Would it achieve anything if we collectively reported them? And to whom?


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Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

On Feb 27, 7:45 pm, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
If it's not Islamic loonies, it's World Ultimate Fighting, M15 Persecution
or Beware UK Scammers.

Is there anything one can do about this - other that block the sender.
Would it achieve anything if we collectively reported them? And to whom?

Snipped Spam

You cs ignore it or just pass a comment on it if you have a flame or
an amusing anecdote or some-such to add to it, then just ignore it.

Google has seen the light about letting us know who started a thread
so we don't have to open it to see it.

Prior to this it was a case of writing a new title to the thread ans
adding the word spam for spam threads/posts.

I don't bother subscribing to a newsreader, things might be different
for others.

You might soon catch on if you stay here.

The Medway Handyman wrote:

If it's not Islamic loonies, it's World Ultimate Fighting, M15 Persecution
or Beware UK Scammers.

Is there anything one can do about this - other that block the sender.
Would it achieve anything if we collectively reported them? And to whom?


The MI5 weirdo is almost classic. The Islamic stuff is new(ish). Doesn't
bother me - I just hit "i" in my newsreader to ignore the thread, takes
0.1s

Alas the interenet is not like it used to be, but then it used to be crap in
a different way - say 12 years ago, you were lucky on many pipes if you
could get anything from the US after about 10-11am. There's always
somethign that not right with the Internet, best to accept it and enjoy the
good bits.

Cheers

Tim

On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:45:57 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

If it's not Islamic loonies, it's World Ultimate Fighting, M15 Persecution
or Beware UK Scammers.

Is there anything one can do about this - other that block the sender.
Would it achieve anything if we collectively reported them? And to whom?


Forget collectivism. It's never worked and won't work for this.

Unfortunately there are too many easy and mechanised ways of posting
spam to email, web sites and newsgroups. There's little positive
discrmination and typically these things fade after a few days anyway.

It's not going to be very effective reporting a spammer in PRC or
really anywhere else outside western Europe and north America. Even
that is marginal.

Really the noise level is quite small and one could filter out posts
with keywords in the subject.


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..andy

On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:45:57 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

|!If it's not Islamic loonies, it's World Ultimate Fighting, M15 Persecution
|!or Beware UK Scammers.
|!
|!Is there anything one can do about this - other that block the sender.
|!Would it achieve anything if we collectively reported them? And to whom?

The ISPs disown usenet :-(
See sig
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http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile.

Huge wrote:
On 2007-02-27, Dave Fawthrop wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:45:57 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

|!If it's not Islamic loonies, it's World Ultimate Fighting, M15 Persecution
|!or Beware UK Scammers.
|!
|!Is there anything one can do about this - other that block the sender.
|!Would it achieve anything if we collectively reported them? And to whom?

The ISPs disown usenet :-(

It's getting worse. Because the thieves on P2P networks have been
switching to Usenet to distribute their stolen media, at least one ISP
(Tiscali) has started traffic shaping NNTP (the protocol used to transfer
netnews) such that it gets a very low (no) priority at peak times.


Just us the filters and kill files.

In article ,
Huge writes:
Mike Corely (real name Tadeus Szulik) has been quiet lately, either
because he's taking his medication, or because he made a *colossal*
spam run a few weeks ago, provoked thousands of complaints and lost all
his free Usenet accounts. Or both.

Doubtless he'll be back. At least he has the excuse of being genuinely
ill.

[Postedit; He's back. In uk.misc, at least. Sigh.]

I never see any of his postings. MI5 seem to do a very good
job of canceling them from my newsserver. Occasionally I see
one which has been followed-up.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On 28 Feb 2007 10:00:42 GMT, Huge wrote:

On 2007-02-27, Dave Fawthrop wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:45:57 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

|!If it's not Islamic loonies, it's World Ultimate Fighting, M15 Persecution
|!or Beware UK Scammers.
|!
|!Is there anything one can do about this - other that block the sender.
|!Would it achieve anything if we collectively reported them? And to whom?

The ISPs disown usenet :-(

It's getting worse. Because the thieves on P2P networks have been
switching to Usenet to distribute their stolen media, at least one ISP
(Tiscali) has started traffic shaping NNTP (the protocol used to transfer
netnews) such that it gets a very low (no) priority at peak times.

Yes and no.

I've been looking recently at traffic profiles by protocol in various
networks. Certainly the consumer ones carry a fair amount of PTP
(emule and bittorrent being the largest); but HTTP and FTP remain up
there. After this, it's assorted traffic such as Skype but NNTP is
very small as a proportion.

It also depends on the profile and business model of the ISP. Some
have bandwidth for customers up the wazoo and sell them content while
others are more dependent on attractiveness of peering connectivity.
If peering is costing them a lot of money vs, the average revenue per
customer, they will clearly throttle what they believe to be means to
obtain data with no identified revenue opportunity.



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..andy