I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

In article ,
Martin wrote:
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good
quality cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one
that doesn't require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses
power after half a dozen small screws.

A cordless screwdriver is only really of use for light duty where the
small size may be an advantage. For everything else just use a cordless
drill. There are loads of different makes from about a tenner to 250 or so
quid. But 80 or so should buy you a decent one.

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On 12 Feb, 18:02, "Martin" wrote:
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

The Bosch 10.8v lithium pro version takes some beating ( the one for
around £80, not the higher priced one with adjustable head).

I've gone through loads of others, and this is the one to have. The
torque is amazing and charges in 15 to 30 minutes, but does loads of
screws on a charge. It feels 'right' in the hand, and is better than
any cordless drill for this task.

dg

"dg" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 12 Feb, 18:02, "Martin" wrote:
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

The Bosch 10.8v lithium pro version takes some beating ( the one for
around £80, not the higher priced one with adjustable head).

I've gone through loads of others, and this is the one to have. The
torque is amazing and charges in 15 to 30 minutes, but does loads of
screws on a charge. It feels 'right' in the hand, and is better than
any cordless drill for this task.

dg

I will second that

--

Steve

Martin wrote:
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and -
having realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a
good quality cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph
- one that doesn't require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably
loses power after half a dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

Aldi were doing an 18v drill/driver for £20, I bought one a few months ago
and I'm quite pleased with it, 2 batteries and a 1 hr fast charger, 2 speeds
and 16 torque settings...no bells or whistles like some of the dearer ones,
but I put 250 plasterboard screws (up to 50mm) in with it a few times a week
and it's not showing any signs of struggling, 75-100mm screws are no
problem, but if you are using them all day, you'll need to replace the
battery after 3 or 4 hours, although the same can be said for most cordless
tools....I figure if it lasts me 12 months and then I have to buy a new one,
it still works out cheaper than buying a £100+ one that might last 2 or 3
years, if you're lucky - most end up in pieces after falling off stepladders
or bouncing down the stairs....it has a 2 yr guarantee BTW.

"Phil L" wrote in message
. uk...
Martin wrote:
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and -
having realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a
good quality cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph
- one that doesn't require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably
loses power after half a dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

Aldi were doing an 18v drill/driver for £20, I bought one a few months ago
and I'm quite pleased with it, 2 batteries and a 1 hr fast charger, 2
speeds and 16 torque settings...no bells or whistles like some of the
dearer ones, but I put 250 plasterboard screws (up to 50mm) in with it a
few times a week and it's not showing any signs of struggling, 75-100mm
screws are no problem, but if you are using them all day, you'll need to
replace the battery after 3 or 4 hours, although the same can be said for
most cordless tools....I figure if it lasts me 12 months and then I have
to buy a new one, it still works out cheaper than buying a £100+ one that
might last 2 or 3 years, if you're lucky - most end up in pieces after
falling off stepladders or bouncing down the stairs....it has a 2 yr
guarantee BTW.


I've had a B&D HP9096 (9.6v) for a number of years and it has been very
good.

Good torque control and as powerful as I need, twists the head off screws
with
ease if used carelessly :-)

I picked it up in Safeway for £14 some years ago, but it still seems to be
available albeit for rather more.

Chris K

dg wrote:
On 12 Feb, 18:02, "Martin" wrote:
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and -
having realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a
good quality cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph
- one that doesn't require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably
loses power after half a dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

The Bosch 10.8v lithium pro version takes some beating ( the one for
around £80, not the higher priced one with adjustable head).

I've gone through loads of others, and this is the one to have. The
torque is amazing and charges in 15 to 30 minutes, but does loads of
screws on a charge. It feels 'right' in the hand, and is better than
any cordless drill for this task.

dg



Excellent. I see the one - it looks like a pistol rather than the
one like the dentist's drill (shape if not size). I assume the slider
above the trigger is for forward/reverse. And other than trawling for
the best deal, is there anywhere that gives a consistently good price?

I'm most grateful to everyone for the excellent advice and for taking the
time and trouble to reply.

Martin

Martin wrote:
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and -
having realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a
good quality cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph
- one that doesn't require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably
loses power after half a dozen small screws.

You probably need to move up to a drill/driver of 12v+. The comments about
the Bosch 10.8v lithium are valid of course, but you may (a) not want to
spend £80 and (b) want a chuck that will accept normal drill bits.

Wickes is well worth a look. They have, for example a 15.6v combi for
around £24. http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/167212

The Grey range is much better than the Black range. If you did want to
spend £80 you could go to the 14.4v high torque combi, 2 x 2.4Ah Japanese
battery packs, fast charger, 13mm keyless chuck, incredible torque of 47Nm
and a 3 year pro warranty. Actually at £80 I might go and buy one myself
:-)


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

Martin wrote in message
...
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

You didn't say what type of screws you were referring
But if its machine or self tapping you should also consider one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLACK-DECKER-C...-New-Boxed_W0Q
QitemZ180082805683
or http://tinyurl.com/yrbvp9
very light with incredible power,Max Torque 35 Nm


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On 12 Feb, 18:02, "Martin" wrote:
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.



Festool C12. By far and away the best product in screwdriving and
light drilling on the market.

In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Wickes is well worth a look. They have, for example a 15.6v combi for
around £24. http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/167212

The Grey range is much better than the Black range. If you did want to
spend £80 you could go to the 14.4v high torque combi, 2 x 2.4Ah
Japanese battery packs, fast charger, 13mm keyless chuck, incredible
torque of 47Nm and a 3 year pro warranty. Actually at £80 I might go
and buy one myself
:-)

Worth going up a couple of quid and get the one with the right angle
adaptor. Not something you need every day, but when you do it's invaluable.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Mark" wrote in message
...

You didn't say what type of screws you were referring
But if its machine or self tapping you should also consider one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLACK-DECKER-C...-New-Boxed_W0Q
QitemZ180082805683
or http://tinyurl.com/yrbvp9
very light with incredible power,Max Torque 35 Nm

This has a rotary impact mechanism. What sort of screws can it drive in?
How big? Can the mechanism be turned off, or is it auto?

The 6 to 8 hours charge time is abig turn off.

"Mark" wrote in message
...

You didn't say what type of screws you were referring
But if its machine or self tapping you should also consider one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLACK-DECKER-C...-New-Boxed_W0Q
QitemZ180082805683
or http://tinyurl.com/yrbvp9
very light with incredible power,Max Torque 35 Nm

Impressive for it's size. The Bosch 10.8 v screwdriver is only 18Nm @ £70.
This B&D impact driver is only £30 on Ebay. It has only just come out. But
this 35Nm is tiny to the 150 Nm of say the £99 Sparky Impact Driver with two
2 A/Hr batts.

A normal 12v Impact Driver is very small, so I can't see the advantage of
this B&D, except for specialist applications. The 6 to 8 hr charge time
gives it over to DIY use.

" wrote in message
oups.com...
On 12 Feb, 18:02, "Martin" wrote:
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good
quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that
doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

Festool C12. By far and away the best product in screwdriving and
light drilling on the market.

Matt, you know nothing of Impact Drivers. That is sad.

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:40:38 UTC, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

A normal 12v Impact Driver is very small, so I can't see the advantage of
this B&D, except for specialist applications. The 6 to 8 hr charge time
gives it over to DIY use.

I prefer my 0V impact driver:

http://www.tavi.co.uk/impact.jpg

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On 13 Feb, 22:37, "Doctor Drivel" wrote:
" wrote in message

oups.com...

On 12 Feb, 18:02, "Martin" wrote:
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good
quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that
doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

Festool C12. By far and away the best product in screwdriving and
light drilling on the market.

Matt, you know nothing of Impact Drivers. That is sad.


Who said anything about impact drivers?

On 13 Feb 2007 22:53:28 GMT, "Bob Eager" mused:

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:40:38 UTC, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

A normal 12v Impact Driver is very small, so I can't see the advantage of
this B&D, except for specialist applications. The 6 to 8 hr charge time
gives it over to DIY use.

I prefer my 0V impact driver:

http://www.tavi.co.uk/impact.jpg

I find my 12V impact driver much easier for winding coach bolts into
joists though.How long would it take with yours?
--
Regards,
Stuart.

In article ,
Bob Eager wrote:
A normal 12v Impact Driver is very small, so I can't see the advantage
of this B&D, except for specialist applications. The 6 to 8 hr
charge time gives it over to DIY use.

I prefer my 0V impact driver:

http://www.tavi.co.uk/impact.jpg

Dribble can only use power tools. Remember the hacksaw incident? Gawd
knows what damage he'd do with an impact driver.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

You must eff off as you are an idiot.

" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 13 Feb, 22:37, "Doctor Drivel" wrote:
" wrote in message

oups.com...

On 12 Feb, 18:02, "Martin" wrote:
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and -
having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good
quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that
doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after
half a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

Festool C12. By far and away the best product in screwdriving and
light drilling on the market.

Matt, you know nothing of Impact Drivers. That is sad.

Who said anything about impact drivers?

Matt, as I said, you know nothing of Impact Drivers. That is sad.

I have owned several of these and they all had two problems:
- poor battery capacity
- the NiCad batteries gradually lose capacity after a time and cannot be
replaced

But now I seemed to have solved the problem and am very satisfied with the
solution I have. It is a B&D cordless driver (£12) which uses four AA
batteries. I bought two sets of high-capacity (2500mAH) NiMH batteries on
ebay (£6 per set) and a charger.

NiMH batteries, unlike NiCad, does not seem to deteriorate with age and the
batteries last for days. Very satisfied.

cheers

David

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...

" wrote in message
oups.com...
On 12 Feb, 18:02, "Martin" wrote:
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good
quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that
doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half
a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

Festool C12. By far and away the best product in screwdriving and
light drilling on the market.

Matt, you know nothing of Impact Drivers. That is sad.

On 14 Feb, 08:45, "Davy" wrote:
I have owned several of these and they all had two problems:
- poor battery capacity
- the NiCad batteries gradually lose capacity after a time and cannot be
replaced

But now I seemed to have solved the problem and am very satisfied with the
solution I have. It is a B&D cordless driver (£12) which uses four AA
batteries. I bought two sets of high-capacity (2500mAH) NiMH batteries on
ebay (£6 per set) and a charger.

NiMH batteries, unlike NiCad, does not seem to deteriorate with age and the
batteries last for days. Very satisfied.

cheers

David

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message

reenews.net...



" wrote in message
roups.com...
On 12 Feb, 18:02, "Martin" wrote:
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good
quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that
doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half
a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

Festool C12. By far and away the best product in screwdriving and
light drilling on the market.

Matt, you know nothing of Impact Drivers. That is sad.

I've had a Makita 6270DWPE for my house renovation. 12V, 2 batteries,
1 hour charger and it came with a large bit/drill etc. selection. I
think they can be had for £65 ish. I'll be buying another one, or
possibly the 14V, when this gives up the ghost (been going ok for 2
years now).

In article ,
Davy wrote:
NiMH batteries, unlike NiCad, does not seem to deteriorate with age and
the batteries last for days. Very satisfied.

Assuming correct charging for both, NiMH actually have a shorter service
life than decent Ni-Cads. But most cheap tools used poor Ni-Cads and an
even poorer charger. Your earlier problems were almost certainly caused by
overcharging. NiMH are even less tolerant of this so makers have been
forced to use better chargers.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Martin" wrote in message
...
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.


B&Q have 4.8v Ryobi pistol drivers, including carry case, lots of bits of
every kind, and a free MP3 player, for £24.98 (half price)

Used one for the past couple of weeks, and think it's great.

Umgall

"Umgall" wrote in message
...

"Martin" wrote in message
...
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good
quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that
doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.


B&Q have 4.8v Ryobi pistol drivers, including carry case, lots of bits of
every kind, and a free MP3 player, for £24.98 (half price)

Used one for the past couple of weeks, and think it's great.

Umgall

He is not impressed with a 4.8v driver, he said that. He might be impressed
with the player though.

On 14 Feb, 13:12, "Umgall" wrote:
"Martin" wrote in message

...

I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

B&Q have 4.8v Ryobi pistol drivers, including carry case, lots of bits of
every kind, and a free MP3 player, for £24.98 (half price)

Used one for the past couple of weeks, and think it's great.

Umgall

Replacement nicad cells 1.2v are easy to fit eg. 4.8v--4x1.2v
cells....most sizes are sub-c (an industrial standard) found in all
sorts of stuff ,shavers,rechargeable torches etc..@ few £s each well
worth replacing if yours is for light "hobby" use.Maplins etc sell
them ..

Lurch wrote in message
...
On 13 Feb 2007 22:53:28 GMT, "Bob Eager" mused:

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:40:38 UTC, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

A normal 12v Impact Driver is very small, so I can't see the advantage
of
this B&D, except for specialist applications. The 6 to 8 hr charge
time
gives it over to DIY use.

I prefer my 0V impact driver:

http://www.tavi.co.uk/impact.jpg

I find my 12V impact driver much easier for winding coach bolts into
joists though.How long would it take with yours?

You're wasting your time
Most of the boneheads on here think you have to whack all impact drivers on
the end with a big hammer to get them to work.
The others test the idea of winding in large screws, with an Air impact
wrench,
and then can't see any use for these new fangled battery powered impact
drivers.



-

"Mark" wrote in message
...

Lurch wrote in message
...
On 13 Feb 2007 22:53:28 GMT, "Bob Eager" mused:

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:40:38 UTC, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

A normal 12v Impact Driver is very small, so I can't see the advantage
of
this B&D, except for specialist applications. The 6 to 8 hr charge
time
gives it over to DIY use.

I prefer my 0V impact driver:

http://www.tavi.co.uk/impact.jpg

I find my 12V impact driver much easier for winding coach bolts into
joists though.How long would it take with yours?

You're wasting your time
Most of the boneheads on here think you have to whack all impact drivers
on
the end with a big hammer to get them to work.
The others test the idea of winding in large screws, with an Air impact
wrench,
and then can't see any use for these new fangled battery powered impact
drivers.

Yep. Once you have an Impact Driver the drill/driver stays in the box.

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:50:37 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
mused:

I prefer my 0V impact driver:

http://www.tavi.co.uk/impact.jpg

I find my 12V impact driver much easier for winding coach bolts into
joists though.How long would it take with yours?

You're wasting your time
Most of the boneheads on here think you have to whack all impact drivers
on
the end with a big hammer to get them to work.
The others test the idea of winding in large screws, with an Air impact
wrench,
and then can't see any use for these new fangled battery powered impact
drivers.

Yep. Once you have an Impact Driver the drill/driver stays in the box.

Eff off as you are an idiot (still).


--
Regards,
Stuart.

Aw shame on you!

You forgot to say PLEASE.

"Lurch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:50:37 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
mused:

I prefer my 0V impact driver:

http://www.tavi.co.uk/impact.jpg

I find my 12V impact driver much easier for winding coach bolts into
joists though.How long would it take with yours?

You're wasting your time
Most of the boneheads on here think you have to whack all impact
drivers
on
the end with a big hammer to get them to work.
The others test the idea of winding in large screws, with an Air impact
wrench,
and then can't see any use for these new fangled battery powered impact
drivers.

Yep. Once you have an Impact Driver the drill/driver stays in the box.

Eff off as you are an idiot (still).


--
Regards,
Stuart.

In article ,
Mark wrote:
Most of the boneheads on here think you have to whack all impact drivers
on the end with a big hammer to get them to work.

Since you've just described an impact driver which has been around for a
long time what would you now like to call it to avoid confusion with an
electric impact driver? After all, if you talk about a screwdriver most
will think you mean a hand operated one - powered ones get called just
that.

Of course it could be you've never come across an imnpact driver before
the powered ones arrived.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article . com,
kontiki wrote:
Replacement nicad cells 1.2v are easy to fit eg. 4.8v--4x1.2v
cells....most sizes are sub-c (an industrial standard) found in all
sorts of stuff ,shavers,rechargeable torches etc..@ few £s each well
worth replacing if yours is for light "hobby" use.Maplins etc sell
them ..

Big snag is the replacement costs of the cells often exceeds that of a
complete new budget drill, battery and charger. And B&Q sell complete
replacement PPPro batteries for less than the cost of the cells from
Maplin.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote in message
...
In article ,
Mark wrote:
Most of the boneheads on here think you have to whack all impact drivers
on the end with a big hammer to get them to work.

Since you've just described an impact driver which has been around for a
long time what would you now like to call it to avoid confusion with an
electric impact driver?

I have no influence over what a manufacture may choose to call a Tool

Of course it could be you've never come across an imnpact driver before
the powered ones arrived.

You are right, never owned or seen a "imnpact driver"
Were do you hit these ?




-

On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:28:50 UTC, "Mark" wrote:


Dave Plowman (News) wrote in message
...
In article ,
Mark wrote:
Most of the boneheads on here think you have to whack all impact drivers
on the end with a big hammer to get them to work.

Since you've just described an impact driver which has been around for a
long time what would you now like to call it to avoid confusion with an
electric impact driver?

I have no influence over what a manufacture may choose to call a Tool

Of course it could be you've never come across an imnpact driver before
the powered ones arrived.

You are right, never owned or seen a "imnpact driver"
Were do you hit these ?

On the ennd, silly.

And if that was a comment on a typo, look to your own post. "Were"?


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"Lurch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:50:37 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
mused:

I prefer my 0V impact driver:

http://www.tavi.co.uk/impact.jpg

I find my 12V impact driver much easier for winding coach bolts into
joists though.How long would it take with yours?

You're wasting your time
Most of the boneheads on here think you have to whack all impact drivers
on
the end with a big hammer to get them to work.
The others test the idea of winding in large screws, with an Air impact
wrench,
and then can't see any use for these new fangled battery powered impact
drivers.

Yep. Once you have an Impact Driver the drill/driver stays in the box.

Please eff off as you are an idiot (still and always).

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article . com,
kontiki wrote:
Replacement nicad cells 1.2v are easy to fit eg. 4.8v--4x1.2v
cells....most sizes are sub-c (an industrial standard) found in all
sorts of stuff ,shavers,rechargeable torches etc..@ few £s each well
worth replacing if yours is for light "hobby" use.Maplins etc sell
them ..

Big snag is the replacement costs of the cells often exceeds that of a
complete new budget drill, battery and charger. And B&Q sell complete
replacement PPPro batteries for less than the cost of the cells from
Maplin.


You're dead right, Dave. My crappy little Bosch 2.4V was transformed
to an actually-not-so-crappy little Bosch 2.4V when I shoe-horned the
battery from a dead crappy £2 cordless I picked up somewhere. I'd gone
through the bit about looking in Maplins and Euro Battery and, like you say,
realised the economics were all wrong. I even fitted a little 2xAA holder
(from Maplins for 60p) in and stuck 2 NiMH AAs in. I'm not so sure the
charger was ideal for that setup: the batteries got warmer than usual (but
that might have been because they were enclosed in the handle) but it worked
well. .However. then I realised I'd be better off cannibalising the other
screwdriver. As and when this NiCad eventually goes, I'd revert to the
2xAA rechargables. It makes me consider the possibility of powering
a screwdriver from a small external rechargable battery pack. I know it
wouldn't be "cordless" then but I could easily live with a thin flex.

I'm really grateful for all the excellent advice and food for thought.
Having used my Bosch today, I realise one of the most important features of
anything I get is that it must contain a light to shine on the job - it's
invaluable at times - my little Bosch has 2 small bulbs at the end. But
you've all given me much to think about - not least of which is battery
type. And after my experiences with Li-ion laptop batteries, a screwdriver
with such battery technology would not be high up on my list.

In article ,
Martin wrote:
Big snag is the replacement costs of the cells often exceeds that of a
complete new budget drill, battery and charger. And B&Q sell complete
replacement PPPro batteries for less than the cost of the cells from
Maplin.


You're dead right, Dave. My crappy little Bosch 2.4V was
transformed to an actually-not-so-crappy little Bosch 2.4V when I
shoe-horned the battery from a dead crappy £2 cordless I picked up
somewhere. I'd gone through the bit about looking in Maplins and
Euro Battery and, like you say, realised the economics were all wrong.
I even fitted a little 2xAA holder (from Maplins for 60p) in and stuck
2 NiMH AAs in. I'm not so sure the charger was ideal for that setup:
the batteries got warmer than usual (but that might have been because
they were enclosed in the handle) but it worked well. .However. then
I realised I'd be better off cannibalising the other screwdriver.
As and when this NiCad eventually goes, I'd revert to the 2xAA
rechargables. It makes me consider the possibility of powering a
screwdriver from a small external rechargable battery pack. I know it
wouldn't be "cordless" then but I could easily live with a thin flex.

I'm really grateful for all the excellent advice and food for thought.
Having used my Bosch today, I realise one of the most important features
of anything I get is that it must contain a light to shine on the job -
it's invaluable at times - my little Bosch has 2 small bulbs at the end.
But you've all given me much to think about - not least of which is
battery type. And after my experiences with Li-ion laptop batteries, a
screwdriver with such battery technology would not be high up on my list.

One thing I missed is that a budget tool may be transformed by re-celling
with quality types. Good quality cells can supply a deal more current and
this can translate into more torque.

--
*He who laughs last, thinks slowest.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Mark" wrote in message
...

Martin wrote in message
...
I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good
quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that
doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

You didn't say what type of screws you were referring
But if its machine or self tapping you should also consider one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLACK-DECKER-C...-New-Boxed_W0Q
QitemZ180082805683
or http://tinyurl.com/yrbvp9
very light with incredible power,Max Torque 35 Nm

This is £40 in B&Q.

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...

I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good
quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that
doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half
a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

You didn't say what type of screws you were referring
But if its machine or self tapping you should also consider one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLACK-DECKER-C...-New-Boxed_W0Q
QitemZ180082805683
or http://tinyurl.com/yrbvp9
very light with incredible power,Max Torque 35 Nm

This is £40 in B&Q.


Now reduced to £32





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"Mark" wrote in message
...

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...

I've had a Bosch 2.4V and Workzone (Aldi) 4.8V screwdriver and - having
realised their considerable weaknesses - am now looking for a good
quality
cordless screwdriver with plenty of endurance and oomph - one that
doesn't
require recharging every 10 minutes or noticably loses power after half
a
dozen small screws.

Recommendations gratefully requested.

Many thanks.

You didn't say what type of screws you were referring
But if its machine or self tapping you should also consider one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BLACK-DECKER-C...-New-Boxed_W0Q
QitemZ180082805683
or http://tinyurl.com/yrbvp9
very light with incredible power,Max Torque 35 Nm

This is £40 in B&Q.


Now reduced to £32

For what it is a good buy. The fixed integral, non-changeable, battery and
long charge is the put off. I held one in B&Q. A nice small szie and all
they power too.