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Positioning thermostat bulb on HW tank
Got a CH/HW system that is donkeys years old. Works OK, but the
insulation around the water tank has always been crap - totally shredded red fiberglass+plastic jacket thing. So I pulled the jacket off to try to gain access to put some half-way effective insulation onto it. That's work in progress, but when I was removing the old jacket, a "bulb" from a thermostatic valve came twanging off the cylinder, and I'm not at all sure where to reposition it while I'm putting on the next section of insulation. The bulb connects to a thermostat valve, and I guess that when the valve closes, hot water from the back boiler is deflected up a pipe and back into an open header tank, past a bi-metal electrical thermostat, that I guess turns off the gas. Question is, should I re-attach the thermostat bulb at the top of the heated tank, or at the bottom, or at the mid-height of the heat-exchanger coil? (My guess is, about half-way up the coil. But I could half-convince myself that it should be right at the bottom of the tank.) -- Aidan Aberdeen, Scotland Written at Sat, 23 Dec 2006 00:57 GMT, but posted later. |
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"Aidan Karley" wrote:
Got a CH/HW system that is donkeys years old. Works OK, but the insulation around the water tank has always been crap - totally shredded red fiberglass+plastic jacket thing. So I pulled the jacket off to try to gain access to put some half-way effective insulation onto it. That's work in progress, but when I was removing the old jacket, a "bulb" from a thermostatic valve came twanging off the cylinder, and I'm not at all sure where to reposition it while I'm putting on the next section of insulation. The bulb connects to a thermostat valve, and I guess that when the valve closes, hot water from the back boiler is deflected up a pipe and back into an open header tank, past a bi-metal electrical thermostat, that I guess turns off the gas. Question is, should I re-attach the thermostat bulb at the top of the heated tank, or at the bottom, or at the mid-height of the heat-exchanger coil? (My guess is, about half-way up the coil. But I could half-convince myself that it should be right at the bottom of the tank.) Roughly one-third to half way up the cylinder should be fine: http://www.wrexham.gov.uk/images/hou...h_cylinder.jpg |
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Aidan Karley lid wrote: (My guess is, about half-way up the coil. But I could half-convince myself that it should be right at the bottom of the tank.) Convention has it one third of the way up. Or perhaps that should be convection. -- *If you can read this, thank a teecher Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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If you want get fancy then get second thermostat - bit of fiddly wiring etc - but then you could place one 1/3 from the top - and used during the day - set at a temp when you only need a little h/w for hand washing etc and the other nearer the bottom which you can use when baths etc are needed Would require some extra time clock contacts etc - but worth a thought In the days of green house gases this could save tones of CO2 |
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"Aidan Karley" lid wrote in
message r.invalid... Question is, should I re-attach the thermostat bulb at the top of the heated tank, or at the bottom, or at the mid-height of the heat-exchanger coil? (My guess is, about half-way up the coil. But I could half-convince myself that it should be right at the bottom of the tank.) The bottom of the tank cools quicker because that is where the cold water enters, so siting the thermostat bulb low down near the bottom would make it just that much more sensitive to temperature drops cause by hot water usage. -- Michael Chare |
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Caustic, Dave and Michael,
Unanimity ? In uk.d.i.y ?? I'm shocked. And I'm scared that you're in agreement with me too. Scary. Thanks. Half-way up the coil/ 1/3 way up the tank. The thing is 100mm long, so it's not going to be too precise. -- Aidan Aberdeen, Scotland Written at Sun, 24 Dec 2006 01:58 GMT, but posted later. |
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Aidan Karley wrote: Caustic, Dave and Michael, Unanimity ? In uk.d.i.y ?? I'm shocked. And I'm scared that you're in agreement with me too. Scary. It's on the instructions you get with a new one. Of course dribble didn't reply. His answer would have been to replace it with twin combis. ;-) -- *Gravity is a myth, the earth sucks * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Unanimity ? In uk.d.i.y ?? I'm shocked. And I'm scared that you're in agreement with me too. Scary. It's on the instructions you get with a new one. No need for a new one as yet, and since the original is going to be an absolute ******* to get at without removing the tank, it's not going to get replaced without damned good reason. All I'm doing at the moment is re-insulating the tank. -- Aidan Aberdeen, Scotland Written at Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:18 GMT, but posted later. |
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Aidan Karley wrote: In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Unanimity ? In uk.d.i.y ?? I'm shocked. And I'm scared that you're in agreement with me too. Scary. It's on the instructions you get with a new one. No need for a new one as yet, and since the original is going to be an absolute ******* to get at without removing the tank, it's not going to get replaced without damned good reason. All I'm doing at the moment is re-insulating the tank. I just meant that's why the unanimity - everyone must remember the instructions. -- *I never drink anything stronger than gin before breakfast * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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