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I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail holes)
i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system), drained it,
removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had gone straight through a
water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the hole in
the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The hole is about 1.5mm
so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ? if so how would i do that ?
The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so buying
a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea tonight
(gas oven)

TIA

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On 2006-09-27 17:33:05 +0100, "chris 159"
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I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail
holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system),
drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had gone
straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the hole
in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The hole is
about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ? if so how
would i do that ?
The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so
buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris


The third main factor, which pre-empts the other two is correcting the
problem safely.

Dropping in blobs of solder is a bodge.

The section of pipe should be cut out and replaced using a new section
and two couplers. One can be a slip coupler if you like.

I really don't believe that you can't find about £3 for the fittings to
do the job properly.




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On 2006-09-27 17:33:05 +0100, "chris 159"
said:

I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail
holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system),
drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had gone
straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ?
if so how would i do that ?
The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so
buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris


The third main factor, which pre-empts the other two is correcting the
problem safely.

Dropping in blobs of solder is a bodge.


i guessed that with the hole being so small there would be no detrimental
effect

The section of pipe should be cut out and replaced using a new section
and two couplers. One can be a slip coupler if you like.

I really don't believe that you can't find about £3 for the fittings
to do the job properly.


If *you* had had surgery bodge your knees up which put you out of work then
several months later the DWP say you're not entitled to benefits which means
you have to live on a reduced rate of income support to the sum of £43 per
week then *you* would know that its very difficult to find a few quid when
you need it.
Thankfully i won an appeal so i am now waiting to have my benefit reinstated

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chris 159 wrote:
I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail holes)
i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system), drained it,
removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had gone straight through a
water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the hole in
the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The hole is about 1.5mm
so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ? if so how would i do that ?
The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so buying
a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea tonight
(gas oven)

TIA

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1) Place pizza near hole
2) light gas leak from hole

Posiible outcomes
3) eat cooked pizza
or
4) blow house up and claim higher rate of incapacity benefit

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chris 159 wrote:
I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail
holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system),
drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had gone
straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The hole
is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ? if so
how would i do that ? The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so
buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris


Find a piece of 22mm,about an 1" long,cut it in half,slightly widen one
half get the burrs off the cuts,clean the inner side and tin the piece with
solder,clean the pipe thats damaged again tin this pipe with solder,clamp
the piece over the pipe and solder. ;-)

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Andy Hall wrote:
On 2006-09-27 17:33:05 +0100, "chris 159"
said:

I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail
holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system),
drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had gone
straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ?
if so how would i do that ?
The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so
buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris


The third main factor, which pre-empts the other two is correcting the
problem safely.

Dropping in blobs of solder is a bodge.

The section of pipe should be cut out and replaced using a new section
and two couplers. One can be a slip coupler if you like.

I really don't believe that you can't find about £3 for the fittings
to do the job properly.


And on incapacity benefit as well.

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On 2006-09-27 17:54:14 +0100, "chris 159"
said:

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2006-09-27 17:33:05 +0100, "chris 159"
said:

I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail
holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system),
drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had gone
straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ?
if so how would i do that ?
The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so
buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris


The third main factor, which pre-empts the other two is correcting the
problem safely.

Dropping in blobs of solder is a bodge.


i guessed that with the hole being so small there would be no
detrimental effect

The section of pipe should be cut out and replaced using a new section
and two couplers. One can be a slip coupler if you like.

I really don't believe that you can't find about £3 for the fittings
to do the job properly.


If *you* had had surgery bodge your knees up which put you out of work
then several months later the DWP say you're not entitled to benefits
which means you have to live on a reduced rate of income support to the
sum of £43 per week then *you* would know that its very difficult to
find a few quid when you need it.
Thankfully i won an appeal so i am now waiting to have my benefit reinstated

Chris


Well... it's up to you. If you bodge it with drops of solder, you are
potentially risking your life, property and perhaps more importantly
the lives of others.

I appreciate your position, but it isn't a reason to compromise safety.

Presumably, you would have to buy a blow torch, solder and flux anyway.


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On 2006-09-27 17:58:44 +0100, "The3rd Earl Of Derby" said:

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2006-09-27 17:33:05 +0100, "chris 159"
said:

I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail
holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system),
drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had gone
straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ?
if so how would i do that ?
The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so
buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris


The third main factor, which pre-empts the other two is correcting the
problem safely.

Dropping in blobs of solder is a bodge.

The section of pipe should be cut out and replaced using a new section
and two couplers. One can be a slip coupler if you like.

I really don't believe that you can't find about £3 for the fittings
to do the job properly.


And on incapacity benefit as well.


Doesn't matter.

This is not a reason to bodge the job unsafely.


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On 2006-09-27 17:57:46 +0100, "The3rd Earl Of Derby" said:

chris 159 wrote:
I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail
holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system),
drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had gone
straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The hole
is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ? if so
how would i do that ? The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so
buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris


Find a piece of 22mm,about an 1" long,cut it in half,slightly widen one
half get the burrs off the cuts,clean the inner side and tin the piece with
solder,clean the pipe thats damaged again tin this pipe with solder,clamp
the piece over the pipe and solder. ;-)


Absolutely not.

This is not the proper way to effect the repair.


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Andy Hall wrote:
On 2006-09-27 17:33:05 +0100, "chris 159"
said:

I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing
nail holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating
system), drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the
screw had gone straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas
pipe. I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ?
if so how would i do that ?
The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank
so buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris

The third main factor, which pre-empts the other two is correcting
the problem safely.

Dropping in blobs of solder is a bodge.


i guessed that with the hole being so small there would be no
detrimental effect

The section of pipe should be cut out and replaced using a new
section and two couplers. One can be a slip coupler if you like.

I really don't believe that you can't find about £3 for the fittings
to do the job properly.


If *you* had had surgery bodge your knees up which put you out of
work then several months later the DWP say you're not entitled to
benefits
which means you have to live on a reduced rate of income support to
the sum of £43 per week then *you* would know that its very difficult to
find a few quid when you need it.
Thankfully i won an appeal so i am now waiting to have my benefit
reinstated Chris


Well... it's up to you. If you bodge it with drops of solder, you
are potentially risking your life, property and perhaps more
importantly the lives of others.

I appreciate your position, but it isn't a reason to compromise
safety.
Presumably, you would have to buy a blow torch, solder and flux
anyway.


Nope. Got that lot already

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On 2006-09-27 17:57:46 +0100, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
said:

chris 159 wrote:
I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail
holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system),
drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had
gone straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ?
if so how would i do that ? The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so
buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris


Find a piece of 22mm,about an 1" long,cut it in half,slightly widen
one half get the burrs off the cuts,clean the inner side and tin the
piece with solder,clean the pipe thats damaged again tin this pipe
with solder,clamp the piece over the pipe and solder. ;-)


Absolutely not.

This is not the proper way to effect the repair.


Gas pipe no,but this is a water pipe



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The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Andy Hall wrote:
On 2006-09-27 17:57:46 +0100, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
said:

chris 159 wrote:
I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing
nail holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating
system), drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the
screw had gone straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas
pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ?
if so how would i do that ? The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank
so buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris

Find a piece of 22mm,about an 1" long,cut it in half,slightly widen
one half get the burrs off the cuts,clean the inner side and tin the
piece with solder,clean the pipe thats damaged again tin this pipe
with solder,clamp the piece over the pipe and solder. ;-)


Absolutely not.

This is not the proper way to effect the repair.


Gas pipe no,but this is a water pipe


the 22mm is a gas pipe

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chris 159 wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Andy Hall wrote:
On 2006-09-27 17:57:46 +0100, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
said:

chris 159 wrote:
I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing
nail holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating
system), drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the
screw had gone straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas
pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first
? if so how would i do that ? The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank
so buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris

Find a piece of 22mm,about an 1" long,cut it in half,slightly widen
one half get the burrs off the cuts,clean the inner side and tin
the piece with solder,clean the pipe thats damaged again tin this
pipe with solder,clamp the piece over the pipe and solder. ;-)

Absolutely not.

This is not the proper way to effect the repair.


Gas pipe no,but this is a water pipe


the 22mm is a gas pipe


Then a coupler is the only way.

How did you manage to go through a water pipe and into a gas pipe?

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chris 159 wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Andy Hall wrote:
On 2006-09-27 17:57:46 +0100, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
said:

chris 159 wrote:
I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing
nail holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating
system), drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the
screw had gone straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas
pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first
? if so how would i do that ? The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank
so buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for
tea tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris

Find a piece of 22mm,about an 1" long,cut it in half,slightly
widen one half get the burrs off the cuts,clean the inner side
and tin the piece with solder,clean the pipe thats damaged again
tin this pipe with solder,clamp the piece over the pipe and
solder. ;-)

Absolutely not.

This is not the proper way to effect the repair.

Gas pipe no,but this is a water pipe


the 22mm is a gas pipe


Then a coupler is the only way.

How did you manage to go through a water pipe and into a gas pipe?


No idea at all. There was an existing nail hole so i bunged a 40mm x6 screw
in there. It must have gone in at an angle i suppose :-(

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I just done an oops!
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the hole in
the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The hole is about

1.5mm
so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ? if so how would i do that

?
The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so

buying
a repair piece is out of the question right now.


A perfectly acceptable job can be done by just buying a single 22mm coupler.

Cut the pipe exactly where the hole is
Remove burrs
Join with coupler

A coupler from a plumbers merchant - find a small independent PM and explain
your predicament. They'll probably give it you or it'll cost less than 25p
Some endfeed fittings are a bit pricey but couplers aren't.

Obviously make everything spotless and don't go overboard on the flux.

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Well if you're going to go down that road, may I suggest sellotape??

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Dropping in blobs of solder is a bodge.


Hum. Not that I would, but I've seen two different CORGI's fix
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Well... it's up to you. If you bodge it with drops of solder, you are
potentially risking your life, property and perhaps more importantly
the lives of others.


Drops of solder is probably not a good idea, but neatly applied solder
onto nice clean fluxed copper isn't a bad way of fixing a small hole.
Failing that, cut a patch out of a bit of scrap. It'd be no less secure
than any soldered joint on a gas pipe.

I once a dart bounce out of the board onto a heating pipe at school. I
nicked a self-tapper from a desk and screwed it in, then wound it round
neatly with insulation tape (I was the sort who always had screwdrivers
and tape and things in my pockets) and toddled off to tell the
maintenance bod.

He blew his stack but didn't actually tell me what I should have done
instead. I went back about ten years later for an open day - and the fix
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:33:05 +0100, "chris 159"
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I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail holes)
i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system), drained it,
removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had gone straight through a
water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the hole in
the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The hole is about 1.5mm
so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ? if so how would i do that ?
The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so buying
a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea tonight
(gas oven)


If you are on your hands and knees screwing floorboards down then
couldn't you just get a job and pay for a professional plumber?

Maybe you're from Liverpool, in which case can't you get your
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Andy Hall wrote:
On 2006-09-27 17:33:05 +0100, "chris 159"
said:

I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail
holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system),
drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had gone
straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ?
if so how would i do that ?
The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so
buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris

The third main factor, which pre-empts the other two is correcting the
problem safely.

Dropping in blobs of solder is a bodge.


i guessed that with the hole being so small there would be no detrimental
effect

The section of pipe should be cut out and replaced using a new section
and two couplers. One can be a slip coupler if you like.

I really don't believe that you can't find about £3 for the fittings
to do the job properly.


If *you* had had surgery bodge your knees up which put you out of work then
several months later the DWP say you're not entitled to benefits which means
you have to live on a reduced rate of income support to the sum of £43 per
week then *you* would know that its very difficult to find a few quid when
you need it.
Thankfully i won an appeal so i am now waiting to have my benefit reinstated


Preciselely. A bodge that isn't good enough always costs more.


I would peronallly for gas be more inclined to get a bit of car body
filler and some bandage and wrap the gas pipe with that.

I have never found droppong a blob of solder over a pipe hole seals
worth a damn. If the flux works and the solder flows, it doesn't cover
the hole. If it is blobbed on, it is not secure or gastight.


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Well... it's up to you. If you bodge it with drops of solder, you are
potentially risking your life, property and perhaps more importantly
the lives of others.


Drops of solder is probably not a good idea, but neatly applied solder
onto nice clean fluxed copper isn't a bad way of fixing a small hole.
Failing that, cut a patch out of a bit of scrap. It'd be no less secure
than any soldered joint on a gas pipe.

I once a dart bounce out of the board onto a heating pipe at school. I
nicked a self-tapper from a desk and screwed it in, then wound it round
neatly with insulation tape (I was the sort who always had screwdrivers
and tape and things in my pockets) and toddled off to tell the
maintenance bod.

He blew his stack but didn't actually tell me what I should have done
instead. I went back about ten years later for an open day - and the fix
was still there!

Actually a self tapper screwed in and THEN soldered is not a bad fix at all.

Solder does not fill gaps, thats the problem. You need pretty good fits
for solder to work.
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Actually a self tapper screwed in and THEN soldered is not a bad fix at all.


I wasn't /that/ keen as a schoolboy that I had a blowtorch, solder and
some means of draining the pipe!

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I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail
holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system),
drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had
gone straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ?
if so how would i do that ? The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so
buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)


If you are on your hands and knees screwing floorboards down then
couldn't you just get a job and pay for a professional plumber?


actually i was sat on my arse screwing floorboards down cos i'm unable to
crouch or kneel :-p

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A coupler from a plumbers merchant - find a small independent PM and
explain
your predicament. They'll probably give it you or it'll cost less than 25p
Some endfeed fittings are a bit pricey but couplers aren't.


The last slip coupler I bought cost 9p. I didn't even need it, I just needed
1p to bump up the order value to get free delivery and it was the cheapest
thing I could find. It came sellotaped to the box containing the radiator I
actually wanted.

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Matt wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:33:05 +0100, "chris 159"
wrote:

I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail
holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system),
drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had
gone straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ?
if so how would i do that ? The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so
buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

If you are on your hands and knees screwing floorboards down then
couldn't you just get a job and pay for a professional plumber?


actually i was sat on my arse screwing floorboards down cos i'm unable to
crouch or kneel :-p


I don't understand how you get into a sitting position on the floor
without crouching on the way down. Do you just sort of bend over and
fall backwards?
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Matt wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:33:05 +0100, "chris 159"
wrote:

I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing
nail holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating
system), drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the
screw had gone straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas
pipe. I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ?
if so how would i do that ? The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank
so buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)
If you are on your hands and knees screwing floorboards down then
couldn't you just get a job and pay for a professional plumber?


actually i was sat on my arse screwing floorboards down cos i'm
unable to crouch or kneel :-p


I don't understand how you get into a sitting position on the floor
without crouching on the way down. Do you just sort of bend over and
fall backwards?


Yep! lean forwards, put fist on floor, turn and lower and at the same time
put other hand on floor to lower body down whilst sliding legs forward.
Its quite easy after 14 months of having to do it

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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:33:05 +0100, "chris 159"
wrote:

I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing
nail holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating
system), drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the
screw had gone straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas
pipe. I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over
the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ?
if so how would i do that ? The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank
so buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)
If you are on your hands and knees screwing floorboards down then
couldn't you just get a job and pay for a professional plumber?


actually i was sat on my arse screwing floorboards down cos i'm
unable to crouch or kneel :-p


I don't understand how you get into a sitting position on the floor
without crouching on the way down. Do you just sort of bend over and
fall backwards?


Yep! lean forwards, put fist on floor, turn and lower and at the same time
put other hand on floor to lower body down whilst sliding legs forward.
Its quite easy after 14 months of having to do it

Chris

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A bar of plumber's solder would work. I t has a high lead content ( at any
rate, if they're still selling it - I bought a stick last year ). The high
lead content leads to it going pasty when heated, not liquid, and it can
then be smoothed and wiped into position with a damp rag. This was the trad
way of fixing pipes together, some of my plumbing still consists of wiped
joints.

Andy.


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Yep! lean forwards, put fist on floor, turn and lower and at the same
time put other hand on floor to lower body down whilst sliding legs
forward. Its quite easy after 14 months of having to do it

Chris


14 months of arsing about? ;-)

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Actually a self tapper screwed in and THEN soldered is not a bad fix at all.


I wasn't /that/ keen as a schoolboy that I had a blowtorch, solder and
some means of draining the pipe!


How about thermite, gets the water out the way and melts the copper
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How about thermite, gets the water out the way and melts the copper
for an invisible repair


I remember doing redox reactions in chemistry. We were allowed to choose
a metal/metal-oxide pair. I chose thermite. The chemistry teacher gave
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On 2006-09-27 17:33:05 +0100, "chris 159"
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I just done an oops! screwing a floorboard down (using existing nail
holes) i heard water hissing so i switched off (heating system),
drained it, removed screw and lifted board to find the screw had gone
straight through a water pipe and into a 22mm gas pipe.
I thought i could get away with putting a blob of solder over the
hole in the gas pipe but my concern is quite obvious really. The
hole is about 1.5mm so does the pipe need evacuating of gas first ?
if so how would i do that ?
The two main factors here a-
1) i'm totally skint until my incapacity benefit goes in the bank so
buying a repair piece is out of the question right now.
2) ive got a pizza in the fridge that i was hoping to have for tea
tonight (gas oven)

TIA

Chris

The third main factor, which pre-empts the other two is correcting the
problem safely.

Dropping in blobs of solder is a bodge.


i guessed that with the hole being so small there would be no detrimental
effect

The section of pipe should be cut out and replaced using a new section
and two couplers. One can be a slip coupler if you like.

I really don't believe that you can't find about £3 for the fittings
to do the job properly.


If *you* had had surgery bodge your knees up which put you out of work then
several months later the DWP say you're not entitled to benefits which means
you have to live on a reduced rate of income support to the sum of £43 per
week then *you* would know that its very difficult to find a few quid when
you need it.
Thankfully i won an appeal so i am now waiting to have my benefit reinstated


Preciselely. A bodge that isn't good enough always costs more.


I would peronallly for gas be more inclined to get a bit of car body
filler and some bandage and wrap the gas pipe with that.

I have never found droppong a blob of solder over a pipe hole seals
worth a damn. If the flux works and the solder flows, it doesn't cover
the hole. If it is blobbed on, it is not secure or gastight.


Chris
Me, I would just empty the gas out of it, then tap it and insert a screw with some loctite screw lock, and that should do the job. Allow to set then test the seal with some washing up liquid dripped over it. If bubbles appear from it, then it is still leaking, if no bubbles appear, then it is sealed and you can turn the gas back on.
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