Really crap instructions for my new bath from B&Q. I adjusted the bath
and got it nice and level. I then thought I would try out the bath
panel. Being inexperienced in bath fitting. I hadn't appreciated that
the height of the bath had to be set exactly, to allow the panel to fit
snugly at top and bottom.

Re-adjusted the bath and have now discovered that it is not possible
for the centre leg to actually reach the floor! I suppose I will have
to put some plywood under it. But it would have been nice to have
instructions about getting the height right for the panel.

I am feeling a bit arsy with them now, so I will take a picture in to
the store at the weekend. At the very least it will inconvenience them
when I demand some plywood.

wrote:
Really crap instructions for my new bath from B&Q. I adjusted the
bath and got it nice and level. I then thought I would try out the
bath panel. Being inexperienced in bath fitting. I hadn't appreciated
that the height of the bath had to be set exactly, to allow the panel
to fit snugly at top and bottom.

Re-adjusted the bath and have now discovered that it is not possible
for the centre leg to actually reach the floor! I suppose I will have
to put some plywood under it. But it would have been nice to have
instructions about getting the height right for the panel.

I am feeling a bit arsy with them now, so I will take a picture in to
the store at the weekend. At the very least it will inconvenience them
when I demand some plywood.

Why would anyone need instructions on how to fit a bath and its panel?

Its hardly rocket science.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

Re-adjusted the bath and have now discovered that it is not possible
for the centre leg to actually reach the floor! I suppose I will have
to put some plywood under it. But it would have been nice to have
instructions about getting the height right for the panel.

I put plywood under bath legs as a matter of course. It helps spread the
load better than floorboards, especially if they're not T&G, or sitting
fortuitously over a joist.

Christian.

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Why would anyone need instructions on how to fit a bath and its panel?

Its hardly rocket science.

Thanks for the compassion. Whilst you may be able to foresee everything
without any instructions, lesser mortals such as myself might benefit
from some instruction. Particularly if it is something they've never
done before.

They could also have pointed out in the instructions that the holes for
the taps could be fitted wherever the installer chose, but that holes
would need to be drilled. This would have saved me a phone call and
saved someone in the store having to get paged to answer the question.

Despite people slagging off IKEA, I would commend them for the
instructions on assembling their furniture, where they have clearly
taken the time to consider exactly how to get across all the vital
steps of construction, without even using any written instructions.

In message , The3rd
Earl Of Derby writes
wrote:
Really crap instructions for my new bath from B&Q.


Why would anyone need instructions on how to fit a bath and its panel?


Many things that are obvious when you've been doing things for a while
aren't so when starting out, or doing some jobs for the first time.

It's quite easy to not fit bath correctly I reckon
--
Chris French

chris French wrote:
In message , The3rd
Earl Of Derby writes
wrote:
Really crap instructions for my new bath from B&Q.


Why would anyone need instructions on how to fit a bath and its panel?

Many things that are obvious when you've been doing things for a while
aren't so when starting out, or doing some jobs for the first time.

Fair comment. It's one thing not to expect instructions if you're buying
from a plumber's merchant, but from B&Q you could expect a bit more
hand-holding I think.

David

Christian McArdle wrote:

I put plywood under bath legs as a matter of course. It helps spread the
load better than floorboards, especially if they're not T&G, or sitting
fortuitously over a joist.

Thanks Christian, I was thinking of doing this anyway, but it certainly
makes sense to help get things rock-solid.

wrote:
Really crap instructions for my new bath from B&Q. I adjusted the bath
and got it nice and level. I then thought I would try out the bath
panel. Being inexperienced in bath fitting. I hadn't appreciated that
the height of the bath had to be set exactly, to allow the panel to fit
snugly at top and bottom.

Re-adjusted the bath and have now discovered that it is not possible
for the centre leg to actually reach the floor! I suppose I will have
to put some plywood under it. But it would have been nice to have
instructions about getting the height right for the panel.

It's usual to have to trim the bottom of the panel a bit - bitch of a
job as it's too floppy to saw easily, and too hard for a Stanley knife
which is likely to slip and slice you.

The panels often have a wide flat section at the base and it's often
possible to slot that behind a length of skirting board which can be run
along the bottom,

David

I agree with the previous poster, it isn't really the responsibilty of
a diy shop to supply instructions on how to fit a bath. Plumbing
fittings don't have instructions, screws don't, some electrical
fittings do - but by no means all you need to know, hand tools don't,
etc. Power tools have safety info, but they don't tell you how to make
stuff with them.

Many stores have information sheets, and in French stores I've seen a
superb range of books on sale, but that's about them promoting their
wares, not an obligation.

And most staff know less than nothing.

I'd suggest the OP chalk it up to experience and not blame the store -
or demand that bits of wood should be included. I know it can be hard
sometimes to accept "I f***** it up", but we've all done it, and learnt
from it.

wrote:
I agree with the previous poster, it isn't really the responsibilty of
a diy shop to supply instructions on how to fit a bath. Plumbing
fittings don't have instructions, screws don't, some electrical
fittings do - but by no means all you need to know, hand tools don't,
etc. Power tools have safety info, but they don't tell you how to make
stuff with them.


Its a bit like going to a supermarket and buying ingrediants for a cake,
you wouldn't expect the staff to tell how to make the cake...you'd buy a
book.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
wrote:
I agree with the previous poster, it isn't really the responsibilty of
a diy shop to supply instructions on how to fit a bath. Plumbing
fittings don't have instructions, screws don't, some electrical
fittings do - but by no means all you need to know, hand tools don't,
etc. Power tools have safety info, but they don't tell you how to make
stuff with them.

Its a bit like going to a supermarket and buying ingrediants for a cake,
you wouldn't expect the staff to tell how to make the cake...you'd buy a
book.

No, if I went to B&Q top buy sheets of plywood and lengths of timber I
wouldn't expect them to come with instructions on how to make a table...
yes, I'd buy a book!

And if I buy a box of readymix cake-mixture from Tesco then I'd
certainly expect that to come with instructions...

David

Lobster wrote:
It's usual to have to trim the bottom of the panel a bit - bitch of a
job as it's too floppy to saw easily, and too hard for a Stanley knife
which is likely to slip and slice you.

The panels often have a wide flat section at the base and it's often
possible to slot that behind a length of skirting board which can be run
along the bottom,

David

Not really possible to trim the bottom in this case because the bath is
a P type shape, giving a wider end for the shower. Therefore pretty
important to get the height spot on.

Cross section of the panel is

xxx
x
x
x
x
x
xxx

The bottom lip provides the necessary rigidity when clipped onto the
floor.

Thanks.

Lobster wrote:


And if I buy a box of readymix cake-mixture from Tesco then I'd
certainly expect that to come with instructions...

David


Right,but how do you make the lemon meringue pie?
Do the lemons,cornflour,eggs,caster sugar come with instructions?


--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Lobster wrote:

And if I buy a box of readymix cake-mixture from Tesco then I'd
certainly expect that to come with instructions...


Right,but how do you make the lemon meringue pie?
Do the lemons,cornflour,eggs,caster sugar come with instructions?


No, that's the same as asking "how do you make the table?" when shopping
at B&Q

David

wrote:


I'd suggest the OP chalk it up to experience and not blame the store -
or demand that bits of wood should be included. I know it can be hard
sometimes to accept "I f***** it up", but we've all done it, and learnt
from it.

Two facts:
1, the fitting for the centre leg is not long enough.
2.. They have provided some instructions and these are clearly
inadequate. If nothing had been provided, then I suppose I would have
got on with it. However they have tried to provide some instructions
and they are simply rubbish. I think the reason for this is that they
source the parts from several manufacturers, but don't bother to try
and put together a consolidated instructions leaftlet.

I am an awkward bugger and will take some delight in complaining at my
local B&Q. They have inconvenienced me, so I will do it to them in
return.

wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Why would anyone need instructions on how to fit a bath and its
panel?

Its hardly rocket science.

Thanks for the compassion. Whilst you may be able to foresee
everything without any instructions, lesser mortals such as myself
might benefit from some instruction. Particularly if it is something
they've never done before.

I believe he is from Liverpool Tim. You have to make allowances.


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

On 12/09/2006 17:53 wrote:

They have provided some instructions and these are clearly
inadequate.

Same author probably wrote the instructions for a 'Wash' cloakroom basin
we purchased from Bathstore.com then.

The template for the two wall brackets is hopelessly wrong. On the
template the distance of the brackets from the room corner and the
distance of the brackets from the sink's ends have been transposed.

Something looked wrong but I couldn't work out what it was until the
screw holes had been drilled and I started to fix the brackets. They
overlapped...

I've written to Bathstore.com to tell them and the store manager is
supposed to be getting in touch. Three weeks ago. Meanwhile, no mention
of sorting the instructions so holes, no doubt, continue to be drilled
in the wrong place.

--
Frank
(Beware of spam trap - remove the negative)

wrote:
wrote:


I'd suggest the OP chalk it up to experience and not blame the store
- or demand that bits of wood should be included. I know it can be
hard sometimes to accept "I f***** it up", but we've all done it,
and learnt from it.

Two facts:
1, the fitting for the centre leg is not long enough.

It's not supposed to reach the floor, you are meant to put some 3X2 timbers
laid flat underneath it and then the threaded screw adjusters wind down to
it, this is for extra support in the middle of the bath, although many
people put timbers under all legs

Phil L wrote:
wrote:
wrote:

I'd suggest the OP chalk it up to experience and not blame the store
- or demand that bits of wood should be included. I know it can be
hard sometimes to accept "I f***** it up", but we've all done it,
and learnt from it.
Two facts:
1, the fitting for the centre leg is not long enough.

It's not supposed to reach the floor, you are meant to put some 3X2 timbers
laid flat underneath it and then the threaded screw adjusters wind down to
it, this is for extra support in the middle of the bath, although many
people put timbers under all legs

?? I don't see why there is any more reason to lay timbers under the
central foot than there is under any of the others though.

David

I am an awkward bugger and will take some delight in complaining at my
local B&Q. They have inconvenienced me, so I will do it to them in
return.

No you inconvenienced yourself by not checking everything and thinking
the job through properly, however unlike the rest of us - you're
blaming everyone but yourself.

Ever wondered why diy'ers aren't right popular around builders
merchants?

It's attitudes like yours that create the ripoff prices/poor quality
goods market that is the diy sheds.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying
something like:

I am an awkward bugger and will take some delight in complaining at my
local B&Q. They have inconvenienced me, so I will do it to them in
return.

They'll take a delight in thinking of you as an arsehole.

So you had to put a bit of wood under the middle leg - Get Real.
--

Dave