Hi,

Had to stop the washer last night after hearing an awful scraping noise
which must have been caused by an underwire coming out of one of the
wife's bras..

unfortunately by the time it stopped and after removing the clothes I
couldn't find the wire.. also there is now no longer a noise when
spinning the drum.

Wire is nowhere to be seen, I'm sure it's somewhere in the machine -
just fallen through one of the holes in the drum.

So my question is: a) is it dangerous to keep the wire laying inside
wherever it may be? b) can an average joe remove whatever needs to be
removed in order to get the wire out? c) if so - how? the machine is
an Ariston I think but would I need a maintenance manual in order to do
that? d) if all else fails, what's an average cost to get someone to
sort it for me?

many thanks for all replies

cheers,
Chris

Not Me wrote:
Hi,

Had to stop the washer last night after hearing an awful scraping
noise which must have been caused by an underwire coming out of one
of the wife's bras..


Tha'll be a let down for the wife then. :-)

If anywhere it'll be between the drum and the outer skin? if its metal
it'll rust in time and probably ruin the clothes if left in.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

"Not Me" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Had to stop the washer last night after hearing an awful scraping
noise
which must have been caused by an underwire coming out of one of the
wife's bras..

unfortunately by the time it stopped and after removing the clothes
I
couldn't find the wire.. also there is now no longer a noise when
spinning the drum.

Wire is nowhere to be seen, I'm sure it's somewhere in the machine -
just fallen through one of the holes in the drum.

So my question is: a) is it dangerous to keep the wire laying inside
wherever it may be? b) can an average joe remove whatever needs to
be
removed in order to get the wire out? c) if so - how? the machine
is
an Ariston I think but would I need a maintenance manual in order to
do
that? d) if all else fails, what's an average cost to get someone to
sort it for me?

many thanks for all replies

cheers,
Chris

Underwires are an absolute PAIN in my launderettes. The wires either
get stuck as yours has, or the fall through and jam the dump valve
fully open ( Launderette m/cs empty by gravity , a huge 2" valve dumps
the water out quickly but if jammed open by a bra wire the m/c never
manages to fill on the next cycle wasting vast quantities of metered
water)

To answer you question, the lost wire is a problem waiting to happen -
at some stage it will be dislodged by the swirling water. In a
domestic m/c the main danger is that it will damage the heating
element.

AWEM

On 11/09/2006 16:07 Not Me wrote:

Wire is nowhere to be seen, I'm sure it's somewhere in the machine -
just fallen through one of the holes in the drum.

Try the pipe leading into the drain pump chamber. I've retrieved them
from there a couple of times - just before they jam the pump.

In fact you might be able to see the end of it by taking the drain pump
chamber plug out and peering inside.

--
Frank
(Beware of spam trap - remove the negative)

Andrew Mawson wrote:

To answer you question, the lost wire is a problem waiting to happen -
at some stage it will be dislodged by the swirling water. In a
domestic m/c the main danger is that it will damage the heating
element.

Yup! Its just lurking, biding its time, waiting to catch you off guard. If
it can't get the heater it will contrive to poke up out of a hole and shred
any clothes it can get at.

You need to check the drain filter first, if you are lucky it will be in
there.


--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

Andrew Mawson wrote:
"Not Me" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Had to stop the washer last night after hearing an awful scraping
noise
which must have been caused by an underwire coming out of one of the
wife's bras..

unfortunately by the time it stopped and after removing the clothes
I
couldn't find the wire.. also there is now no longer a noise when
spinning the drum.

Wire is nowhere to be seen, I'm sure it's somewhere in the machine -
just fallen through one of the holes in the drum.

So my question is: a) is it dangerous to keep the wire laying inside
wherever it may be? b) can an average joe remove whatever needs to
be
removed in order to get the wire out? c) if so - how? the machine
is
an Ariston I think but would I need a maintenance manual in order to
do

Don't know about Ariston, but, I have previously had some success
removing this sort of thing through the hose from the bottom of the
drum. Some models have a large gaiter type arrangement here, which
gives plenty of space for fishing things out.

Obviously, disconnect the electricity supply unless you are planning
suicide but wanting SWMBO to still collect the life insurance. :-/

You probably want to disconnect the water too, just to get extra
manoeuvrability.

There may be a bit of water in there so be prepared to catch that - an
old towel underneath will probably do.

You might have to tilt the machine up, to get at the underside.

If you can get access this way, it's really not hard at all - no manual
needed, and you can feel all righteous about not calling out an engineer.

Make sure you put things back together in a nice watertight way if you
want to keep that righteous feeling.

Cheers,

William.
that? d) if all else fails, what's an average cost to get someone to
sort it for me?

many thanks for all replies

cheers,
Chris

Underwires are an absolute PAIN in my launderettes. The wires either
get stuck as yours has, or the fall through and jam the dump valve
fully open ( Launderette m/cs empty by gravity , a huge 2" valve dumps
the water out quickly but if jammed open by a bra wire the m/c never
manages to fill on the next cycle wasting vast quantities of metered
water)

To answer you question, the lost wire is a problem waiting to happen -
at some stage it will be dislodged by the swirling water. In a
domestic m/c the main danger is that it will damage the heating
element.

AWEM

"William McNicol" wrote in message
...
Andrew Mawson wrote:
"Not Me" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Had to stop the washer last night after hearing an awful scraping
noise
which must have been caused by an underwire coming out of one of the
wife's bras..

unfortunately by the time it stopped and after removing the clothes
I
couldn't find the wire.. also there is now no longer a noise when
spinning the drum.

Wire is nowhere to be seen, I'm sure it's somewhere in the machine -
just fallen through one of the holes in the drum.

So my question is: a) is it dangerous to keep the wire laying inside
wherever it may be? b) can an average joe remove whatever needs to
be
removed in order to get the wire out? c) if so - how? the machine
is
an Ariston I think but would I need a maintenance manual in order to
do

Don't know about Ariston, but, I have previously had some success removing
this sort of thing through the hose from the bottom of the drum. Some
models have a large gaiter type arrangement here, which gives plenty of
space for fishing things out.

Obviously, disconnect the electricity supply unless you are planning
suicide but wanting SWMBO to still collect the life insurance. :-/

You probably want to disconnect the water too, just to get extra
manoeuvrability.

There may be a bit of water in there so be prepared to catch that - an old
towel underneath will probably do.

You might have to tilt the machine up, to get at the underside.

If you can get access this way, it's really not hard at all - no manual
needed, and you can feel all righteous about not calling out an engineer.

Make sure you put things back together in a nice watertight way if you
want to keep that righteous feeling.

Cheers,

William.
that? d) if all else fails, what's an average cost to get someone to
sort it for me?

many thanks for all replies

cheers,
Chris

Underwires are an absolute PAIN in my launderettes. The wires either
get stuck as yours has, or the fall through and jam the dump valve
fully open ( Launderette m/cs empty by gravity , a huge 2" valve dumps
the water out quickly but if jammed open by a bra wire the m/c never
manages to fill on the next cycle wasting vast quantities of metered
water)

To answer you question, the lost wire is a problem waiting to happen -
at some stage it will be dislodged by the swirling water. In a
domestic m/c the main danger is that it will damage the heating
element.

AWEM


You may want to consider attaching the transit bolts (those you put
somewhere safe) before tipping the machine.




John

"John" wrote in message
...

"William McNicol" wrote in message
...
Andrew Mawson wrote:
"Not Me" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Had to stop the washer last night after hearing an awful scraping
noise
which must have been caused by an underwire coming out of one of the
wife's bras..

unfortunately by the time it stopped and after removing the clothes
I
couldn't find the wire.. also there is now no longer a noise when
spinning the drum.

Wire is nowhere to be seen, I'm sure it's somewhere in the machine -
just fallen through one of the holes in the drum.

So my question is: a) is it dangerous to keep the wire laying inside
wherever it may be? b) can an average joe remove whatever needs to
be
removed in order to get the wire out? c) if so - how? the machine
is
an Ariston I think but would I need a maintenance manual in order to
do

Don't know about Ariston, but, I have previously had some success
removing this sort of thing through the hose from the bottom of the drum.
Some models have a large gaiter type arrangement here, which gives plenty
of space for fishing things out.

Obviously, disconnect the electricity supply unless you are planning
suicide but wanting SWMBO to still collect the life insurance. :-/

You probably want to disconnect the water too, just to get extra
manoeuvrability.

There may be a bit of water in there so be prepared to catch that - an
old towel underneath will probably do.

You might have to tilt the machine up, to get at the underside.

If you can get access this way, it's really not hard at all - no manual
needed, and you can feel all righteous about not calling out an engineer.

Make sure you put things back together in a nice watertight way if you
want to keep that righteous feeling.

Cheers,

William.
that? d) if all else fails, what's an average cost to get someone to
sort it for me?

many thanks for all replies

cheers,
Chris

Underwires are an absolute PAIN in my launderettes. The wires either
get stuck as yours has, or the fall through and jam the dump valve
fully open ( Launderette m/cs empty by gravity , a huge 2" valve dumps
the water out quickly but if jammed open by a bra wire the m/c never
manages to fill on the next cycle wasting vast quantities of metered
water)

To answer you question, the lost wire is a problem waiting to happen -
at some stage it will be dislodged by the swirling water. In a
domestic m/c the main danger is that it will damage the heating
element.

AWEM


You may want to consider attaching the transit bolts (those you put
somewhere safe) before tipping the machine.




John



You may also wish to disconect or otherwise ensure that the diaphram switch
(water level detector) is kept raised, to stop water entering it...

The message
from "James Salisbury" contains
these words:

You may also wish to disconect or otherwise ensure that the diaphram switch
(water level detector) is kept raised, to stop water entering it...

Assuming he's got the sense to switch the power off first it won't matter.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

This happened to my machine recently.

The Haynes Washing Machine Manual suggested removing the heating element and
attempting to pull out the wire through the opening - I didn't have the
requisite long reach socket to hand to reve the element and ended up doing
it through the drain gaiter leading to the pump, as another poster has
suggested.


"F" wrote in message
...
On 11/09/2006 16:07 Not Me wrote:

Wire is nowhere to be seen, I'm sure it's somewhere in the machine - just
fallen through one of the holes in the drum.

Try the pipe leading into the drain pump chamber. I've retrieved them from
there a couple of times - just before they jam the pump.

In fact you might be able to see the end of it by taking the drain pump
chamber plug out and peering inside.

--
Frank
(Beware of spam trap - remove the negative)

"Guy King" wrote in message
...
The message
from "James Salisbury" contains
these words:

You may also wish to disconect or otherwise ensure that the diaphram
switch
(water level detector) is kept raised, to stop water entering it...

Assuming he's got the sense to switch the power off first it won't matter.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Not sure, I know of a case when a dishwasher was inverted to work on the
pump, and the diaphram switch conked out....

John wrote:
You may want to consider attaching the transit bolts (those you put
somewhere safe) before tipping the machine.

I was about to make a comment along the lines of it being impossible to
ever retrieve anything you put in a safe place. Then I realised, I
actually do know where the transit bolts for our washing machine are.

I'm gobsmacked!
--
Rob

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:47:10 UTC, "Rob Hamadi"
wrote:

John wrote:
You may want to consider attaching the transit bolts (those you put
somewhere safe) before tipping the machine.

I was about to make a comment along the lines of it being impossible to
ever retrieve anything you put in a safe place. Then I realised, I
actually do know where the transit bolts for our washing machine are.

I'm gobsmacked!

Same here (in that I'm gobsmacked that I actually know, having read your
statement). The machine is 12 years old and I know EXACTLY where they
are...in a box, in the loft, marked 'Washing Machine Bits'! I even know
where the box is...
--
The information contained in this post is copyright the
poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by
Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk

The message .com
from "Rob Hamadi" contains these words:

I was about to make a comment along the lines of it being impossible to
ever retrieve anything you put in a safe place. Then I realised, I
actually do know where the transit bolts for our washing machine are.

Ours have always been in a bag tied to the back of the machine. Except
the current machine which was donated by a grandparent and came without
transit bolts.
Same with the spare washers for the hoses - I'm not likely to need them
anywhere else so they're cabletied to the taps behind the washer.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.