I know that this isn't strictly DIY but the regulars here seem to know
so much about unusual plugs and sockets.... and I'll try to get it
back on topic at the end :-)

The rear of my Yamaha amp has a switched AC outlet that I'd like to
use to power my CD player - the CD player transformer has a low hum
when the unit is on standby and the rear on/off switch is a bit
awkward to reach on a regular basis so the switched AC outlet from the
amp seems ideal.

The only problem is that I can't seem to find a plug that will fit it
- I've looked on CPC etc. but I can't seem to identify the socket and
the Yamaha manual is about as much help as a (insert really useless
thing here).

The socket looks something like this
(ASCII representation, fixed pitch font will help)
______________________________________
| __________________ |
| |__________________| |
| _ _ |
| | | | | |
| |_| |_| |
| |
|______________________________________|


i.e. a bit like this
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSea...sp?sku=CN01756
but without the small centre pin.

Does anyone know what it's called / where I can find a plug?

If I can't find one I'll just have to obtain a chassis socket of the
same size with a matching plug, and replace one in the amp (back on
topic for D.I.Y.?)

Thanks

Perry

______________________________________
| __________________ |
| |__________________| |
| _ _ |
| | | | | |
| |_| |_| |
| |
|______________________________________|


i.e. a bit like this
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSea...sp?sku=CN01756
but without the small centre pin.



It does look very like one of those but as far as I can tell Bulgin do
not make a 2 pin version. I also think they are now obsolete.

Have you tried a US mains plug that might just fit.

In article ,
wrote:
I know that this isn't strictly DIY but the regulars here seem to know
so much about unusual plugs and sockets.... and I'll try to get it
back on topic at the end :-)

The rear of my Yamaha amp has a switched AC outlet that I'd like to
use to power my CD player - the CD player transformer has a low hum
when the unit is on standby and the rear on/off switch is a bit
awkward to reach on a regular basis so the switched AC outlet from the
amp seems ideal.

The only problem is that I can't seem to find a plug that will fit it
- I've looked on CPC etc. but I can't seem to identify the socket and
the Yamaha manual is about as much help as a (insert really useless
thing here).

The socket looks something like this
(ASCII representation, fixed pitch font will help)
______________________________________
| __________________ |
| |__________________| |
| _ _ |
| | | | | |
| |_| |_| |
| |
|______________________________________|


i.e. a bit like this
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSea...sp?sku=CN01756
but without the small centre pin.

Does anyone know what it's called / where I can find a plug?

If I can't find one I'll just have to obtain a chassis socket of the
same size with a matching plug, and replace one in the amp (back on
topic for D.I.Y.?)

I had the same problem and what you want is a Euro Facility line plug and
modify it by cutting off the earth pin. You end up with the two pins plus
the plastic tang which engages in the slot you've shown, and the body of
the plug is a good fit in the socket recess too. Mine is marked Bulgin
P770.

The socket shown at CPS appears to be what I mean.

I've got a couple of these plugs spare and could scan one if you want to
check sizes, etc.

--
*Windows will never cease *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:35:02 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
waxed lyrical about:

In article ,
wrote:
I know that this isn't strictly DIY but the regulars here seem to know
so much about unusual plugs and sockets.... and I'll try to get it
back on topic at the end :-)

The rear of my Yamaha amp has a switched AC outlet that I'd like to
use to power my CD player - the CD player transformer has a low hum
when the unit is on standby and the rear on/off switch is a bit
awkward to reach on a regular basis so the switched AC outlet from the
amp seems ideal.

The only problem is that I can't seem to find a plug that will fit it
- I've looked on CPC etc. but I can't seem to identify the socket and
the Yamaha manual is about as much help as a (insert really useless
thing here).

The socket looks something like this
(ASCII representation, fixed pitch font will help)
______________________________________
| __________________ |
| |__________________| |
| _ _ |
| | | | | |
| |_| |_| |
| |
|______________________________________|


i.e. a bit like this
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSea...sp?sku=CN01756
but without the small centre pin.

Does anyone know what it's called / where I can find a plug?

If I can't find one I'll just have to obtain a chassis socket of the
same size with a matching plug, and replace one in the amp (back on
topic for D.I.Y.?)

I had the same problem and what you want is a Euro Facility line plug and
modify it by cutting off the earth pin. You end up with the two pins plus
the plastic tang which engages in the slot you've shown, and the body of
the plug is a good fit in the socket recess too. Mine is marked Bulgin
P770.

The socket shown at CPS appears to be what I mean.

I've got a couple of these plugs spare and could scan one if you want to
check sizes, etc.

Thanks for that Dave,

they've got the Bulgin PX0770 at CPC
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSea...sp?sku=CN01755

It says on the CPC page that the plug is no longer manufactured but it
appears that they'll still let you order it - I'd take a flyer on it
without checking the sizes as it's only about £2.50 but once they add
on a 'handling charge' it goes up to just under a tenner!!

There's a datasheet for the plug/socket available at
http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/41789.pdf so I can check the sizes
tonight (and look around for somewhere cheaper)

Still can't understand why Yamaha would pick such a bloody obscure
plug/socket - what's wrong with something slightly more common?

Perry

Still can't understand why Yamaha would pick such a bloody obscure
plug/socket - what's wrong with something slightly more common?

Perry

Might be common in Japan!

Dave

gort wrote:
Still can't understand why Yamaha would pick such a bloody obscure
plug/socket - what's wrong with something slightly more common?

Perry

Might be common in Japan!


In the USA, more like.

Dave

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:01:47 GMT, wrote:


Still can't understand why Yamaha would pick such a bloody obscure
plug/socket - what's wrong with something slightly more common?

It's to encourage you to go to a Yamaha dealer for plugs and/or
accessories.

--
Frank Erskine

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:51:44 +0100, gort waxed
lyrical about:


Still can't understand why Yamaha would pick such a bloody obscure
plug/socket - what's wrong with something slightly more common?

Perry

Might be common in Japan!

Dave

I'd agree except that this is supposed to be the British version of
the amp!

The European version has typical Euro 2-pin sockets on the back and
the US version has the US 2-pin outlets and the British version has
these weird and wonderful sockets...

Perry

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:58:57 +0100, Frank Erskine
waxed lyrical about:

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:01:47 GMT, wrote:


Still can't understand why Yamaha would pick such a bloody obscure
plug/socket - what's wrong with something slightly more common?

It's to encourage you to go to a Yamaha dealer for plugs and/or
accessories.


ooohhh! You're so cynical... :-)

Perry

In article ,
Frank Erskine wrote:
Still can't understand why Yamaha would pick such a bloody obscure
plug/socket - what's wrong with something slightly more common?

It's to encourage you to go to a Yamaha dealer for plugs and/or
accessories.

That would be OK if Yamaha UK listed either a plug or adaptor lead. But
they don't - or at least didn't when I tried them.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
wrote:
Thanks for that Dave,

they've got the Bulgin PX0770 at CPC
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSea...sp?sku=CN01755

Yup - that's the one. You simply remove the earth pin - ok if the device
you're feeding doesn't need an earth like most CDs etc.

It says on the CPC page that the plug is no longer manufactured but it
appears that they'll still let you order it - I'd take a flyer on it
without checking the sizes as it's only about £2.50 but once they add
on a 'handling charge' it goes up to just under a tenner!!

I always manage to find plenty else to order to go above that handling
charge. ;-) FWIW I think I paid about a quid more than that for these ones
- possibly from Maplin.

There's a datasheet for the plug/socket available at
http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/41789.pdf so I can check the sizes
tonight (and look around for somewhere cheaper)

Buy several to put you over the 10 quid limit and punt the rest on Ebay?
;-)

Still can't understand why Yamaha would pick such a bloody obscure
plug/socket - what's wrong with something slightly more common?

I'd guess to protect the switch, etc? This connector is 6 amps max while
IEC can be 10.

--
*Never test the depth of the water with both feet.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Frank Erskine wrote:

Still can't understand why Yamaha would pick such a bloody obscure
plug/socket - what's wrong with something slightly more common?


It's to encourage you to go to a Yamaha dealer for plugs and/or
accessories.


That would be OK if Yamaha UK listed either a plug or adaptor lead. But
they don't - or at least didn't when I tried them.


Dave, I'm sure I've seen these sorts of connectors on a couple of older
hi-fi units and such like. I suspect they were reasonably common before
everyone switched en masse to the bog-standard "kettle lead" for earthed
applications.

Michael

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:59:45 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
waxed lyrical about:

In article ,
wrote:
Thanks for that Dave,

they've got the Bulgin PX0770 at CPC
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSea...sp?sku=CN01755

Yup - that's the one. You simply remove the earth pin - ok if the device
you're feeding doesn't need an earth like most CDs etc.

It says on the CPC page that the plug is no longer manufactured but it
appears that they'll still let you order it - I'd take a flyer on it
without checking the sizes as it's only about £2.50 but once they add
on a 'handling charge' it goes up to just under a tenner!!

I always manage to find plenty else to order to go above that handling
charge. ;-) FWIW I think I paid about a quid more than that for these ones
- possibly from Maplin.

There's a datasheet for the plug/socket available at
http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/41789.pdf so I can check the sizes
tonight (and look around for somewhere cheaper)

Buy several to put you over the 10 quid limit and punt the rest on Ebay?
;-)
snip

I couldn't find them elsewhere (probably because they're 'no longer
manufactured') so I've had to bite the bullet and order from CPC (a
tenner... grrrr!). Just have to hope that they can still supply it.

I tried your 'buy several' advice but the handling charge was still
being applied even when the ex-vat price was over £10 and I couldn't
see sense in pushing it up much further than that as CPC is expensive
for most of the items that I'd be likely to use in the short-term -
and if I buy stuff for the long-term they'll most likely get put away
so safely for the future that I'll never find them again :-)

Perry

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:
snip

Still can't understand why Yamaha would pick such a bloody
obscure
plug/socket - what's wrong with something slightly more common?

I'd guess to protect the switch, etc? This connector is 6 amps max
while
IEC can be 10.


Have they not heard of cut-outs or fuses?

Call me cynical but I suspect that it was more of a case of using
something obscure, meaning that Yamaha could supply them as an
optional extra at a suitably marked up price...

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:37:17 GMT, wrote:

I know that this isn't strictly DIY but the regulars here seem to know
so much about unusual plugs and sockets.... and I'll try to get it
back on topic at the end :-)

The rear of my Yamaha amp has a switched AC outlet that I'd like to
use to power my CD player - the CD player transformer has a low hum
when the unit is on standby and the rear on/off switch is a bit
awkward to reach on a regular basis so the switched AC outlet from the
amp seems ideal.

The only problem is that I can't seem to find a plug that will fit it
- I've looked on CPC etc. but I can't seem to identify the socket and
the Yamaha manual is about as much help as a (insert really useless
thing here).

The socket looks something like this
(ASCII representation, fixed pitch font will help)
______________________________________
| __________________ |
| |__________________| |
| _ _ |
| | | | | |
| |_| |_| |
| |
|______________________________________|


i.e. a bit like this
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSea...sp?sku=CN01756
but without the small centre pin.

Does anyone know what it's called / where I can find a plug?

If I can't find one I'll just have to obtain a chassis socket of the
same size with a matching plug, and replace one in the amp (back on
topic for D.I.Y.?)

Thanks

Perry

Its's not very clear in the photo, but would something like this do the job?
http://www.keene.co.uk/multi.php?mycode=IMPBP

Rick... (The other Rick)

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:10:11 +0100, Rick waxed
lyrical about:

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 12:37:17 GMT, wrote:

I know that this isn't strictly DIY but the regulars here seem to know
so much about unusual plugs and sockets.... and I'll try to get it
back on topic at the end :-)

The rear of my Yamaha amp has a switched AC outlet that I'd like to
use to power my CD player - the CD player transformer has a low hum
when the unit is on standby and the rear on/off switch is a bit
awkward to reach on a regular basis so the switched AC outlet from the
amp seems ideal.

The only problem is that I can't seem to find a plug that will fit it
- I've looked on CPC etc. but I can't seem to identify the socket and
the Yamaha manual is about as much help as a (insert really useless
thing here).

The socket looks something like this
(ASCII representation, fixed pitch font will help)
______________________________________
| __________________ |
| |__________________| |
| _ _ |
| | | | | |
| |_| |_| |
| |
|______________________________________|


i.e. a bit like this
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSea...sp?sku=CN01756
but without the small centre pin.

Does anyone know what it's called / where I can find a plug?

If I can't find one I'll just have to obtain a chassis socket of the
same size with a matching plug, and replace one in the amp (back on
topic for D.I.Y.?)

Thanks

Perry

Its's not very clear in the photo, but would something like this do the job?
http://www.keene.co.uk/multi.php?mycode=IMPBP

Rick... (The other Rick)


It looks like the right plug but at nearly £30 it's a bit expensive
for a multiway block!

I've now ordered a plug from CPC.

Thanks

Perry

wrote:
I know that this isn't strictly DIY but the regulars here seem to know
so much about unusual plugs and sockets.... and I'll try to get it
back on topic at the end :-)

The rear of my Yamaha amp has a switched AC outlet that I'd like to
use to power my CD player - the CD player transformer has a low hum
when the unit is on standby and the rear on/off switch is a bit
awkward to reach on a regular basis so the switched AC outlet from the
amp seems ideal.

The only problem is that I can't seem to find a plug that will fit it
- I've looked on CPC etc. but I can't seem to identify the socket and
the Yamaha manual is about as much help as a (insert really useless
thing here).

The socket looks something like this
(ASCII representation, fixed pitch font will help)
______________________________________
| __________________ |
| |__________________| |
| _ _ |
| | | | | |
| |_| |_| |
| |
|______________________________________|


i.e. a bit like this
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSea...sp?sku=CN01756
but without the small centre pin.

Does anyone know what it's called / where I can find a plug?

If I can't find one I'll just have to obtain a chassis socket of the
same size with a matching plug, and replace one in the amp (back on
topic for D.I.Y.?)

Thanks

Perry

I've been looking for one too, but I need to switch an earthed
sub-woofer. I just ordered a switched outlet from oneclickpower (ref
#GP6/2301) for £24.95.

Someone posted this on AVFORUMS a while ago:

"Bought one from Yamaha support themselves cost £9
Charles Hyde & Son, 1 Halifax Way, Pocklington Ind. Estate, Pocklington.
YO42 1NR
Tel: 0870 990 9474"

HTH

Dave

In article ews.net,
Jerry wrote:
Still can't understand why Yamaha would pick such a bloody obscure
plug/socket - what's wrong with something slightly more common?

I'd guess to protect the switch, etc? This connector is 6 amps max
while IEC can be 10.


Have they not heard of cut-outs or fuses?

Probably. However, it's not common to have a fuse on an aux outlet. Adds a
couple of pennies to the unit cost.

Call me cynical but I suspect that it was more of a case of using
something obscure, meaning that Yamaha could supply them as an
optional extra at a suitably marked up price...

But they couldn't when I got my amp some years ago. Nor could I find the
actual 2 pin plug anywhere - although of course I couldn't really do a
search on Japanese sites. I use the aux output on mine to switch a relay
which did at one time switch everything on and off. That went out the
window with the DLP TV, though...

--
*All generalizations are false.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.