Hi all,
I want to create a false wall in my bathroom to hide all the pipes behind, I
want to tile this new wall from floor to ceiling, so do not need it
plastered. What is the best new surface to build the wall out of, that will
accept the tiles without the need for plaster?
Regards Ewen

"Ewen Constant" wrote:
Hi all,
I want to create a false wall in my bathroom to hide all the pipes behind,
I want to tile this new wall from floor to ceiling, so do not need it
plastered. What is the best new surface to build the wall out of, that
will accept the tiles without the need for plaster?
Regards Ewen

Plywood.

Phil Anthropist wrote:
"Ewen Constant" wrote:
Hi all,
I want to create a false wall in my bathroom to hide all the pipes behind,
I want to tile this new wall from floor to ceiling, so do not need it
plastered. What is the best new surface to build the wall out of, that
will accept the tiles without the need for plaster?
Regards Ewen

Plywood.


But make it 18mm, not flimsy stuff, and make sure it's rigid or any
flexing will have your tiles off. Been there, done that...

David

"Lobster" wrote

But make it 18mm, not flimsy stuff, and make sure it's rigid or any
flexing will have your tiles off. Been there, done that...

Or if it's going to be constantly wet, Aqua Panel or similar?
Just hear-say not used this myself

Phil

On 2006-08-18 08:28:28 +0100, Lobster said:

Phil Anthropist wrote:
"Ewen Constant" wrote:
Hi all,
I want to create a false wall in my bathroom to hide all the pipes
behind, I want to tile this new wall from floor to ceiling, so do not
need it plastered. What is the best new surface to build the wall out
of, that will accept the tiles without the need for plaster?
Regards Ewen

Plywood.

But make it 18mm, not flimsy stuff, and make sure it's rigid or any
flexing will have your tiles off. Been there, done that...

David

But use a flexible adhesive anyway.

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Plywood.


But make it 18mm, not flimsy stuff, and make sure it's rigid or any
flexing will have your tiles off. Been there, done that...

And if needed, cut some long strips a couple of inches wide and glue
them edge-on to the back to stiffen it further.

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Ewen Constant wrote:
Hi all,
I want to create a false wall in my bathroom to hide all the pipes behind, I
want to tile this new wall from floor to ceiling, so do not need it
plastered. What is the best new surface to build the wall out of, that will
accept the tiles without the need for plaster?
Regards Ewen


Plasterboard foil backed for cheap.
MDF for structural strength.
Marine style ply for strength, and resistaance to distortion if it gets
soaking wet.
Aquapanel or masterboard/multiboard if you think that you want it to
stay up even when one of the joints you will have to hack it down to get
at, springs a leak ;-)

Frankly I'd use plasterboard if you can arrange decent studs or 19mm MDF
if they are a bit sparse.

The erst are paranoid overkill for a wall.

Owain wrote:
Ewen Constant wrote:
I want to create a false wall in my bathroom to hide all the pipes
behind, I want to tile this new wall from floor to ceiling, so do not
need it plastered. What is the best new surface to build the wall out
of, that will accept the tiles without the need for plaster?

Plasterboard?

Owain


First sane answer.

I've used the lot. I even HAD a leak behind plasterboard. It stood up
long enough to find it and to at least show it..once fixed it dried out OK.

Tiles are 99% waterproof. They are certainly splashproof. There isn't
much flex on 15mm plasterboard over 400mm centered studs - they won't
fall off unless you slam the wall with your fist.

I also tend to seal any gaps with filler. caulk or silicone BEFORE tiling...

I want to create a false wall in my bathroom to hide all the pipes behind,
I want to tile this new wall from floor to ceiling, so do not need it
plastered. What is the best new surface to build the wall out of, that
will accept the tiles without the need for plaster?

Best is cement board (i.e. Aquapanel). Next best is WBP ply. Finally
plasterboard is usually fine. All can be tiled.

Christian.

Christian McArdle wrote:
I want to create a false wall in my bathroom to hide all the pipes behind,
I want to tile this new wall from floor to ceiling, so do not need it
plastered. What is the best new surface to build the wall out of, that
will accept the tiles without the need for plaster?

Best is cement board (i.e. Aquapanel). Next best is WBP ply. Finally
plasterboard is usually fine. All can be tiled.

Christian.


Well 'best' from what point of view?

Certainly not cost.

probably 'best' from low flex and waterproofness is a steel beam to
support a load of concrete blocks rendered with epoxy for total
waterproofing...;-)

Best is cement board (i.e. Aquapanel). Next best is WBP ply. Finally
plasterboard is usually fine. All can be tiled.

Well 'best' from what point of view?

The best in terms of performance for any reasonably practical covering for a
stud partition. Not coincidentally, the cost goes down with performance.

Christian.

Christian McArdle wrote:
Best is cement board (i.e. Aquapanel). Next best is WBP ply. Finally
plasterboard is usually fine. All can be tiled.
Well 'best' from what point of view?

The best in terms of performance for any reasonably practical covering for a
stud partition. Not coincidentally, the cost goes down with performance.

Christian.


Well not necessarily. You could just buy a couple of old masters hang
them up and tile over them.

Expensive AND useless.

However one tends to automatically discount such solutions.

My pint remains that aquapanel is a waste of money. If the tiles have
already cracked off enough to allow water ingress, then a cheaper bit of
plasterboard would have sufficed anyway.

YOU may gold plate your loudspeaker terminals. I don't bother.

My pint remains that aquapanel is a waste of money. If the tiles have
already cracked off enough to allow water ingress, then a cheaper bit of
plasterboard would have sufficed anyway.

It is a lot harder to fix if the substrate is now cardboard.

YOU may gold plate your loudspeaker terminals. I don't bother.

As an electrical engineer, I would say this is one of the few things to
bother about. Gold plating terminals seriously helps maintain a good
connection, as gold is very resistant to oxidation. It also costs almost
nothing to do, so you certainly don't have to spend silly money on
audiophile equipment.

As for the cable, nice thick copper is good. No need to spend a fortune, but
I was easily able to pick out a nice thick cable over a thin one in a blind
test. 189 strand OFC is excellent at about a quid a metre. For lower powered
systems, 105 strand is OK. They are all significant improvements over the
cheap stuff you get free. There is no significant advantage to going larger,
unless you believe in fairies, or have a kW PA system.

Christian.

TheScullster wrote:
"Lobster" wrote
But make it 18mm, not flimsy stuff, and make sure it's rigid or any
flexing will have your tiles off. Been there, done that...

Or if it's going to be constantly wet, Aqua Panel or similar?
Just hear-say not used this myself

Phil



Vertical tiled surfaces are rarely wet for long (something to do with
gravity I think :-)).