What's the best reading material nowadays for info on wiring regs e.g.
a guide to best practice and the regs, part P etc. for intelligent but
non specialist DIYer?
Just about to embark on a re-wiring project.

cheers
Jacob

normanwisdom wrote:

What's the best reading material nowadays for info on wiring regs e.g.
a guide to best practice and the regs, part P etc. for intelligent but
non specialist DIYer?
Just about to embark on a re-wiring project.

cheers
Jacob

Frinstance there's a list here.

http://www.buildingcentrebookshop.co...sf_0 1=CTITLE
Which do I need? The 'Which' guide is not enough i feel. It's a chapel
conversion with 3 phase.

cheers
Jacob

What's the best reading material nowadays for info on wiring regs e.g.
a guide to best practice and the regs, part P etc. for intelligent but
non specialist DIYer?

Personally, I just get it from the horse's mouth. i.e. I just bought the BS
itself and the OSG.

Christian.

Christian McArdle wrote:

What's the best reading material nowadays for info on wiring regs e.g.
a guide to best practice and the regs, part P etc. for intelligent but
non specialist DIYer?

Personally, I just get it from the horse's mouth. i.e. I just bought the BS
itself and the OSG.

Christian.

Er thanks. What's the "BS" and "OSG"?

cheers
Jacob

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What's the best reading material nowadays for info on wiring regs e.g.
a guide to best practice and the regs, part P etc. for intelligent but
non specialist DIYer?
Just about to embark on a re-wiring project.

This is pretty good and not too expensive. Most wholesalers should have it.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Ind...ook/index.html

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Christian McArdle wrote:

British Standard BS7671 16th Edition Wiring Regulations
IEE On Site Guide to BS7671

I should say that neither of these books are particularly hand holding.

Christian.

Thanks Christian
Righto - in for a pound etc. They're £100!
Any particular recommendations for primers, guides, as starting points?


cheers
Jacob

Righto - in for a pound etc. They're £100!

Well, 63.55.

Christian.

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normanwisdom wrote:

What's the best reading material nowadays for info on wiring regs e.g.
a guide to best practice and the regs, part P etc. for intelligent but
non specialist DIYer?
Just about to embark on a re-wiring project.

cheers
Jacob

Frinstance there's a list here.

http://www.buildingcentrebookshop.co...sf_0 1=CTITLE
Which do I need? The 'Which' guide is not enough i feel. It's a chapel
conversion with 3 phase.

Horses for courses I think. As a primer my pick is Whitfield and the latest
edition has a small section on part P. Happen to use Scaddan for testing.
While I do have the OSG (several colours in fact) I don't particularly rate
it as a "site guide", the limited tables extracted from the BS are fine if
they cover your design, otherwise you will need to refer to the full BS
which contrary to your misleading listing costs a lot more than £9.49.
Personally I've never justified buying the full BS and restrict my cable
design and instatallation method to tables in the OSG which I use as a
design guide not a site guide.

Jim A

Christian McArdle wrote:
Righto - in for a pound etc. They're £100!

Well, 63.55.

Christian.

Ooh yes ~ I was adding one to the total.
I've ordered them and also Dave's suggestions from TLC.
Plenty of holiday reading for the beach!
Thanks

Jacob

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article om,
normanwisdom wrote:
What's the best reading material nowadays for info on wiring regs e.g.
a guide to best practice and the regs, part P etc. for intelligent but
non specialist DIYer?
Just about to embark on a re-wiring project.

This is pretty good and not too expensive. Most wholesalers should have it.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Ind...ook/index.html

I have this one (previous edition) but I have to say it irritates the
hell out of me because of its crap index - if I want to find the answer
to a specific query, I can never find it without having to browse.

Keep meaning to buy an OSG actually - never having seen one, is it worth
having in addition?

David

As Christian says, OSG very good. It's not that inaccessable, though
it's not "electricity for idiots" either. Electric Wiring Domestic,
Brain Scaddan is a bit more basic, and does cover good wiring practice,
which the OSG doesn't.

Christian McArdle wrote:
Keep meaning to buy an OSG actually - never having seen one, is it worth
having in addition?

The main advantage over the regs is that it has all the tables of standard
pre-calculated circuits. It also describes the recommended testing regime.

I have no idea if the other book you have already has this information, but
I would presume so.

Thanks - the other book (ie which I have) is Whitfield in fact; yes it
does have that info. What's the OSG like for looking things up (ie it's
indexing)?!

David

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Plenty of holiday reading for the beach!

The BS is a fairly thick document that is laid out in an
"international" format that was obviously designed by at least one
committee. One of the reasons that there are a number of books on
the subject is because of the way the "real" document is so badly
laid out, one needs to understand the whole thing before it is
useful. However, it can't really be read as it is more a reference
tool.


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normanwisdom wrote:

What's the best reading material nowadays for info on wiring regs e.g.
a guide to best practice and the regs, part P etc. for intelligent but
non specialist DIYer?
Just about to embark on a re-wiring project.


This is pretty good and not too expensive. Most wholesalers should have it.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Ind...ook/index.html

TLC also have extracts of this available to read online:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Book/1.1.htm

Not that I would suggest one indulges in such naughty behaviour, but the
set of three scadden books are frequently available as a dodgy download
in PDF format (file sharing nets etc). Might be handy if you want to
review more carefully before purchase.


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Lobster wrote:

Thanks - the other book (ie which I have) is Whitfield in fact; yes it
does have that info. What's the OSG like for looking things up (ie it's
indexing)?!

Not too bad, although its many piccies, and ring bound format lead you
into (falsely) believing it is easy to find the bit you want just by
flicking through it! After ten mins of flicking and not finding it can
get frustrating. ;-)


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As Christian says, OSG very good. It's not that inaccessable, though
it's not "electricity for idiots" either. Electric Wiring Domestic,
Brain Scaddan is a bit more basic, and does cover good wiring practice,
which the OSG doesn't.

It is interesting that treatment of installation techniques and methods
is not covered more fully in most books. It could almost do with one all
of its own.

Anyone got a copy of:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0...e=UTF8&s=books

What does it cover, and is it worth having?


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wrote:


Not that I would suggest one indulges in such naughty behaviour, but the
set of three scadden books are frequently available as a dodgy download
in PDF format (file sharing nets etc). Might be handy if you want to
review more carefully before purchase.

Yes, and it is usually indexed as being the "British Standard" In the
interests of research (and preferring an electronic copy of the BS as
well as a paper copy) I downloaded this pdf only to be disappointed.
Bit of a bugger really when you already have a full BS electronic
subscription to the module that *should* have BS7671 but then find
it's only available from the IET by paying extra.






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normanwisdom wrote:
Righto - in for a pound etc. They're £100!

Well, 63.55.

Christian.

Ooh yes ~ I was adding one to the total.
I've ordered them and also Dave's suggestions from TLC.
Plenty of holiday reading for the beach!

You really don't need this depth of knowledge for a DIY house re-wire,
IMHO, although top marks for keenness. The only bits most trip up on are
main earthing and bonding.

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As Christian says, OSG very good. It's not that inaccessable, though
it's not "electricity for idiots" either. Electric Wiring Domestic,
Brain Scaddan is a bit more basic, and does cover good wiring practice,
which the OSG doesn't.

It is interesting that treatment of installation techniques and methods is
not covered more fully in most books. It could almost do with one all of
its own.


I couldn't agree more!!!!!

Last winter I enrolled on a C&G 16th Edition course at the local Tech.
I now know how to wire Farms, Swimming Pools and Building Sites etc -
real useful to a DIY'er, oh yeah.... :-(

It's interesting that there are no evening classes for DIY'ers in the
"Domestic Environment". Books too are a bit limited... Probably all
down to the finances I expect...

Roy

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article .com,
normanwisdom wrote:
Righto - in for a pound etc. They're £100!

Well, 63.55.

Christian.

Ooh yes ~ I was adding one to the total.
I've ordered them and also Dave's suggestions from TLC.
Plenty of holiday reading for the beach!

You really don't need this depth of knowledge for a DIY house re-wire,
IMHO, although top marks for keenness. The only bits most trip up on are
main earthing and bonding.

Perhaps you are right but mine's a biggish project 3000 sq ft building
with 3 phase supply and seperate wood workshop and living accomodation
so I want to be on top of it rather than make expensive cock up. BCO
hasn't shown much interest so far but you never know.
I've done small houses with no probs, pre part P whatever that is.

cheers
Jacob

Matt wrote:

Yes, and it is usually indexed as being the "British Standard" In the
interests of research (and preferring an electronic copy of the BS as
well as a paper copy) I downloaded this pdf only to be disappointed.

AOL Mode ;-)

Bit of a bugger really when you already have a full BS electronic
subscription to the module that *should* have BS7671 but then find
it's only available from the IET by paying extra.

yup, would love a copy of the wiring regs CD, but don't much like the
silly money they charge for it!

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Righto - in for a pound etc. They're £100!

Well, 63.55.

Christian.



Even more when I bought one of them from Farnell... They had forgoton to
zero rate books....

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normanwisdom wrote:
You really don't need this depth of knowledge for a DIY house re-wire,
IMHO, although top marks for keenness. The only bits most trip up on
are main earthing and bonding.

Perhaps you are right but mine's a biggish project 3000 sq ft building
with 3 phase supply and seperate wood workshop and living accomodation
so I want to be on top of it rather than make expensive cock up.

Ah. Happy reading and don't get sunburnt. ;-)

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jim_in_sussex wrote:
..or maybe 2nd priority....1st priority should be to understand Ohm's
Law & that watts =I^2R. They're about all the equations you need for
99% of domestic cabling.

Not sure you even need that. You can cable a house by rote. Just tend to
be generous with the circuits - which is a good idea regardless.

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