Hi All,

The fourth of the 4 x master / slave multi way trailing socket
thingies has just died (powering my daughters PC and peripherals).

They were fairly cheap (£9.99 each or summat) from one of those gadget
shop places.

I think we like the idea of them (turn off PC, everything else goes
off) so would like to know if there are some 'better' made / designed
models out there and if so how much and from where please?

All the best ..

T i m

p.s. These ones seem pretty well sealed up but I'm guessing it's just
the relay contacts that have finally given up the ghost. I believe the
'manual' switch simply overrides the current sense circuitry and
forces the relay over, hence still no power either way.

"T i m" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

The fourth of the 4 x master / slave multi way trailing socket
thingies has just died (powering my daughters PC and peripherals).

They were fairly cheap (£9.99 each or summat) from one of those gadget
shop places.

I think we like the idea of them (turn off PC, everything else goes
off) so would like to know if there are some 'better' made / designed
models out there and if so how much and from where please?

All the best ..

T i m

p.s. These ones seem pretty well sealed up but I'm guessing it's just
the relay contacts that have finally given up the ghost. I believe the
'manual' switch simply overrides the current sense circuitry and
forces the relay over, hence still no power either way.


yes there are plenty of better ones, but they are 40 quid or so upwards,
wait till aldi or lidl do them again

mrcheerful

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:31:30 GMT, "mrcheerful
.." wrote:


"T i m" wrote in message
.. .
Hi All,

The fourth of the 4 x master / slave multi way trailing socket
thingies has just died (powering my daughters PC and peripherals).

They were fairly cheap (£9.99 each or summat) from one of those gadget
shop places.

I think we like the idea of them (turn off PC, everything else goes
off) so would like to know if there are some 'better' made / designed
models out there and if so how much and from where please?

All the best ..

T i m

p.s. These ones seem pretty well sealed up but I'm guessing it's just
the relay contacts that have finally given up the ghost. I believe the
'manual' switch simply overrides the current sense circuitry and
forces the relay over, hence still no power either way.


yes there are plenty of better ones, but they are 40 quid or so upwards,
wait till aldi or lidl do them again

Ah, ok, if you remember can you give us a heads up please (I don't go
in either place as a matter of course).

All the best ..

T i m

"T i m" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:31:30 GMT, "mrcheerful
." wrote:


"T i m" wrote in message
. ..
Hi All,

The fourth of the 4 x master / slave multi way trailing socket
thingies has just died (powering my daughters PC and peripherals).

They were fairly cheap (£9.99 each or summat) from one of those gadget
shop places.

I think we like the idea of them (turn off PC, everything else goes
off) so would like to know if there are some 'better' made / designed
models out there and if so how much and from where please?

All the best ..

T i m

p.s. These ones seem pretty well sealed up but I'm guessing it's just
the relay contacts that have finally given up the ghost. I believe the
'manual' switch simply overrides the current sense circuitry and
forces the relay over, hence still no power either way.


yes there are plenty of better ones, but they are 40 quid or so upwards,
wait till aldi or lidl do them again

Ah, ok, if you remember can you give us a heads up please (I don't go
in either place as a matter of course).

All the best ..

T i m

I'll try.

mrc

In article ,
T i m wrote:
The fourth of the 4 x master / slave multi way trailing socket
thingies has just died (powering my daughters PC and peripherals).

They were fairly cheap (£9.99 each or summat) from one of those gadget
shop places.

I think we like the idea of them (turn off PC, everything else goes
off) so would like to know if there are some 'better' made / designed
models out there and if so how much and from where please?

If your PC has a switched monitor output why not control a relay via that?
Even if it hasn't, you could use the internal 12 volt supply to switch one.

--
*24 hours in a day ... 24 beers in a case ... coincidence? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:07:15 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
T i m wrote:
The fourth of the 4 x master / slave multi way trailing socket
thingies has just died (powering my daughters PC and peripherals).

They were fairly cheap (£9.99 each or summat) from one of those gadget
shop places.

I think we like the idea of them (turn off PC, everything else goes
off) so would like to know if there are some 'better' made / designed
models out there and if so how much and from where please?

If your PC has a switched monitor output why not control a relay via that?

Not got (those were the days eh!) ;-)

Even if it hasn't, you could use the internal 12 volt supply to switch one.

Hmm, that's a thought.

I did pop out and get a couple of std 6 way, surge protected trailing
sockets yesterday, just so I could get all her PC gear up and going
and was looking to feed them via a simply 'isolator' switch that she
could easily reach (but not accidentally touch) that would kill the
lot (PC, two TFT's, printer, scanner, powered speakers, digicam dock,
midi kbd etc etc).

The other thought was a wireless remote switch so we could kill it
from downstairs when she won't turn it off and go to bed! ;-)

So a 12V fed, mains rated, double pole, chassis mounted relay /
contactor in a suitable box (CU / Din type modular maybe?) could be on
the cards (but the resultant not 'approved' like a bought solution
might be).

A 'solid state' one would be nice (silent, no contact wear / bounce)
but how much? ;-(

All the best ..

T i m

In article ,
T i m wrote:
So a 12V fed, mains rated, double pole, chassis mounted relay /
contactor in a suitable box (CU / Din type modular maybe?) could be on
the cards (but the resultant not 'approved' like a bought solution
might be).

But should work. ;-)

A 'solid state' one would be nice (silent, no contact wear / bounce)
but how much? ;-(

I'd stick with a normal one. A half decent quality type will outlast any
computer. ;-)

Maplin used to do a 7.5 amp DPDT 'open' power relay with either 12 or 240
volt coils for 4 quid which seems to last for ever. Clonks a bit when
operating, but that's half the pleasure. ;-)

However, the simplest one to wire would be an octal type with a screw
terminal base which you can get near anywhere - even TLC IIRC.

--
*Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
T i m writes:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:07:15 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
If your PC has a switched monitor output why not control a relay via that?

Not got (those were the days eh!) ;-)

Even if it hasn't, you could use the internal 12 volt supply to switch one.

Hmm, that's a thought.

or the 5V from a USB connector.

--
Andrew Gabriel

"mrcheerful
." typed


yes there are plenty of better ones, but they are 40 quid or so upwards,
wait till aldi or lidl do them again

My Tchibo master/slave has died after a few months.

I only used it for my bedside collection (lamp, projecting alarm clock,
radio & phone/fax/answering machine). I should have just used an
ordinary triling socket.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:07:40 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht
wrote:

"mrcheerful
." typed


yes there are plenty of better ones, but they are 40 quid or so upwards,
wait till aldi or lidl do them again

My Tchibo master/slave has died after a few months.

That's the place Helen .. ;-)

I only used it for my bedside collection (lamp, projecting alarm clock,
radio & phone/fax/answering machine). I should have just used an
ordinary triling socket.

If it wasn't being turned of via the master thing then it might well
have been .. ;-(

All the best ..

T i m

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:16:59 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
T i m wrote:
So a 12V fed, mains rated, double pole, chassis mounted relay /
contactor in a suitable box (CU / Din type modular maybe?) could be on
the cards (but the resultant not 'approved' like a bought solution
might be).

But should work. ;-)

True .. and longer than 6 months! ;-)

A 'solid state' one would be nice (silent, no contact wear / bounce)
but how much? ;-(

I'd stick with a normal one. A half decent quality type will outlast any
computer. ;-)

Fair enough .. ;-)

Maplin used to do a 7.5 amp DPDT 'open' power relay with either 12 or 240
volt coils for 4 quid which seems to last for ever. Clonks a bit when
operating, but that's half the pleasure. ;-)

I saw one on there earlier .. PCB mount though ..

However, the simplest one to wire would be an octal type with a screw
terminal base which you can get near anywhere - even TLC IIRC.

I may even have some somewhere!

All the best ..

T i m

On 30 Jun 2006 17:43:09 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
T i m writes:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:07:15 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
If your PC has a switched monitor output why not control a relay via that?

Not got (those were the days eh!) ;-)

Even if it hasn't, you could use the internal 12 volt supply to switch one.

Hmm, that's a thought.

or the 5V from a USB connector.

I think 12V might be easier (hookup, current rating, relay
availability etc) out though a gromet on the back panel from one of
the 4 way Molex connectors.

All the best ..

T i m

T i m typed


If it wasn't being turned of via the master thing then it might well
have been .. ;-(

All the best ..

T i m





All appliances were 'slaves'. Clock & ans/fax were on all the time, lamp
& radio were sitched at appliance end.

Then it died; I was not happy.

Have normal surge strip now.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

T i m wrote:
On 30 Jun 2006 17:43:09 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
T i m writes:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:07:15 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
If your PC has a switched monitor output why not control a relay via that?
Not got (those were the days eh!) ;-)

Even if it hasn't, you could use the internal 12 volt supply to switch one.
Hmm, that's a thought.
or the 5V from a USB connector.

I think 12V might be easier (hookup, current rating, relay
availability etc) out though a gromet on the back panel from one of
the 4 way Molex connectors.

All the best ..

T i m



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