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How I cleared water from pipes to allow soldering
Not sure if I reinverted the wheel, but after draining my central heating
system to allow me to do some soldering, there was still water in the pipework near where I wanted to solder a new joint. To clear it I did the following:- Cut a hole in the side of an empty 2 ltr drinks bottle, Removed the screw top and connect the bottle top to the pipe using a short lenght of hose, Laid the bottle flat, rotating the bottle so the hole I made was facing up, Switched on a dyson vacuum cleaner and held nozzel close to hole in side of bottle. Water was sucked into the bottle, but wasn't sucked up into dyson nozzel. The drinks bottle crumpled up a bit, but I still managed to completely clear the pipework of about 6 pints of water in no time at all. Darren. |
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Darren wrote:
Not sure if I reinverted the wheel, but after draining my central heating system to allow me to do some soldering, there was still water in the pipework near where I wanted to solder a new joint. To clear it I did the following:- Cut a hole in the side of an empty 2 ltr drinks bottle, Removed the screw top and connect the bottle top to the pipe using a short lenght of hose, Laid the bottle flat, rotating the bottle so the hole I made was facing up, Switched on a dyson vacuum cleaner and held nozzel close to hole in side of bottle. Water was sucked into the bottle, but wasn't sucked up into dyson nozzel. The drinks bottle crumpled up a bit, but I still managed to completely clear the pipework of about 6 pints of water in no time at all. Darren. Neat idea. I have a vague recollection of there being an ancient vacuum cleaner which worked on a similar principle. Two pipes entered a cylindrical chamber through the curved walls. The pipes entered the chamber opposite each other, but one was slightly higher than the other so that they didn't collide. Each pipe extended almost to the opposite wall. One pipe was connected to the fan, the other did the cleaning. The idea was that the debris fell into the bottom of the chamber while the air found its way around the corners and out of the second pipe. Worked well for heavy debris, but less well for light dust, if I remember rightly. Best wishes, Chris |
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Darren wrote:
Not sure if I reinverted the wheel, but after draining my central heating system to allow me to do some soldering, there was still water in the pipework near where I wanted to solder a new joint. To clear it I did the following:- Cut a hole in the side of an empty 2 ltr drinks bottle, Removed the screw top and connect the bottle top to the pipe using a short lenght of hose, Laid the bottle flat, rotating the bottle so the hole I made was facing up, Switched on a dyson vacuum cleaner and held nozzel close to hole in side of bottle. Water was sucked into the bottle, but wasn't sucked up into dyson nozzel. The drinks bottle crumpled up a bit, but I still managed to completely clear the pipework of about 6 pints of water in no time at all. Neat idea. I have a yard of old fishtank airline tubing (6-8mm 'ish), which I push down the pipe and suck out any loose water. Not advisable with filthy heating pipes though, might try your trick next time I do that! |
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Not sure if I reinverted the wheel, but after draining my central heating system to allow me to do some soldering, there was still water in the pipework near where I wanted to solder a new joint. To clear it I did the following:- Genius! I will definately remember that one. -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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"Darren" wrote in message ... Not sure if I reinverted the wheel, but after draining my central heating system to allow me to do some soldering, there was still water in the pipework near where I wanted to solder a new joint. To clear it I did the following:- Cut a hole in the side of an empty 2 ltr drinks bottle, Removed the screw top and connect the bottle top to the pipe using a short lenght of hose, Laid the bottle flat, rotating the bottle so the hole I made was facing up, Switched on a dyson vacuum cleaner and held nozzel close to hole in side of bottle. Water was sucked into the bottle, but wasn't sucked up into dyson nozzel. The drinks bottle crumpled up a bit, but I still managed to completely clear the pipework of about 6 pints of water in no time at all. Darren. similar idea to my one: to vacuum out a drain (really disgusting) get a 5 gallon plastic oil can, cut an extra hole in the top which your vacuum cleaner nozzle can fit into, get a bit of whatever tubing you can (I used a bit of exhaust pipe and a radiator hose) which can fit into the usual cap hole, or into the cap, the vacuum is run , the pipe is poked down the drain and all the disgustingness is sucked into the plastic oil drum, which you then just throw away complete. mrcheerful |
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mrcheerful . wrote:
similar idea to my one: to vacuum out a drain (really disgusting) get a 5 gallon plastic oil can, cut an extra hole in the top which your vacuum cleaner nozzle can fit into, get a bit of whatever tubing you can (I used a bit of exhaust pipe and a radiator hose) which can fit into the usual cap hole, or into the cap, the vacuum is run , the pipe is poked down the drain and all the disgustingness is sucked into the plastic oil drum, which you then just throw away complete. That idea has been and is used in industry for all sorts of things. They call them vacuum interceptors. One use is for disgusting stuff, but they also use them to reclaim stuff. Saw an ice cream factory once where they used big stainless steel interceptors. They made like 10,000 litres of chocolate ice cream mix, which got pumped out of the mixer to go get frozen & packed, but this left 500 or so litres of foamy stuff sculling about. Rather than wash it away so they could clean the tank ready for strawberry, they sucked it into a stainless interceptor tank & stored it till the next batch was made, -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message news mrcheerful . wrote: similar idea to my one: to vacuum out a drain (really disgusting) get a 5 gallon plastic oil can, cut an extra hole in the top which your vacuum cleaner nozzle can fit into, get a bit of whatever tubing you can (I used a bit of exhaust pipe and a radiator hose) which can fit into the usual cap hole, or into the cap, the vacuum is run , the pipe is poked down the drain and all the disgustingness is sucked into the plastic oil drum, which you then just throw away complete. That idea has been and is used in industry for all sorts of things. They call them vacuum interceptors. One use is for disgusting stuff, but they also use them to reclaim stuff. Saw an ice cream factory once where they used big stainless steel interceptors. They made like 10,000 litres of chocolate ice cream mix, which got pumped out of the mixer to go get frozen & packed, but this left 500 or so litres of foamy stuff sculling about. Rather than wash it away so they could clean the tank ready for strawberry, they sucked it into a stainless interceptor tank & stored it till the next batch was made, -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 I wasn't try to claim I invented it, just made a home version that works really well at zero cost. My neighbour saw it and thought I was a genius, well it made me feel good anyway. mrcheerful |
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mrcheerful . wrote:
I wasn't try to claim I invented it, just made a home version that works really well at zero cost. My neighbour saw it and thought I was a genius, well it made me feel good anyway. Sorry mate, wasn't trying to put you down, just saying you had an idea that took the vacum cleaner industry years to invent. -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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Darren wrote: Not sure if I reinverted the wheel, but after draining my central heating system to allow me to do some soldering, there was still water in the pipework near where I wanted to solder a new joint. To clear it I did the following:- Cut a hole in the side of an empty 2 ltr drinks bottle, Removed the screw top and connect the bottle top to the pipe using a short lenght of hose, Laid the bottle flat, rotating the bottle so the hole I made was facing up, Switched on a dyson vacuum cleaner and held nozzel close to hole in side of bottle. Water was sucked into the bottle, but wasn't sucked up into dyson nozzel. The drinks bottle crumpled up a bit, but I still managed to completely clear the pipework of about 6 pints of water in no time at all. I've got an Apollo HVLP spray set which uses just a glorified vacuum cleaner on blow to power it. And the hose thread is the same as a washing machine one. So just loosely fit a spare tap to the end of the circuit to be soldered and blow out the water with nice warm air. -- *A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it uses up a thousand times more memory. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:01:04 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
I've got an Apollo HVLP spray set which uses just a glorified vacuum cleaner on blow to power it. And the hose thread is the same as a washing machine one. So just loosely fit a spare tap to the end of the circuit to be soldered and blow out the water with nice warm air. We used to have an attachment for our ancient[1] electrolux cylinder vac for spraying paint and other watery fluids with the hose attached to the blow end of the machine. The attachment was like a glass kilner jar with a telescopic dip tube and a nozzle. There must have been a seal missing from the telescopic bit of the dip tube or summat as it never worked. [1] I mean it'd be ancient now: it must have been 40+ years ago. Mind, it wasn't that new at the time. |
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The drinks bottle crumpled up a bit, but I still managed to completely clear the pipework of about 6 pints of water in no time at all. neat. Same sort of idea to a surgical vacuum like used in hospital... the interceptor vessel catches all the gloop before it gets sucked into the pipework. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Darren wrote: The drinks bottle crumpled up a bit, but I still managed to completely clear the pipework of about 6 pints of water in no time at all. neat. Same sort of idea to a surgical vacuum like used in hospital... the interceptor vessel catches all the gloop before it gets sucked into the pipework. And, quite disugustingly, the French (that's where I first saw this) sell a baby bogie sucker which is a small vesel with two pipes. One the adult sucks, the other goes up the baby's nose to relieve, err, conjestion. |
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John Rumm wrote: Darren wrote: The drinks bottle crumpled up a bit, but I still managed to completely clear the pipework of about 6 pints of water in no time at all. neat. Same sort of idea to a surgical vacuum like used in hospital... the interceptor vessel catches all the gloop before it gets sucked into the pipework. And, quite disugustingly, the French (that's where I first saw this) sell a baby bogie sucker which is a small vesel with two pipes. One the adult sucks, the other goes up the baby's nose to relieve, err, conjestion. Mm, nice. Though being French, I'm surprised they bother with an interceptor vessel... David |
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from Lobster contains these words: And, quite disugustingly, the French (that's where I first saw this) sell a baby bogie sucker which is a small vesel with two pipes. One the adult sucks, the other goes up the baby's nose to relieve, err, conjestion. Mm, nice. Though being French, I'm surprised they bother with an interceptor vessel... Bit of garlic and some bogeys would be indistinguishable from snails. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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Guy King wrote:
The message from Lobster contains these words: And, quite disugustingly, the French (that's where I first saw this) sell a baby bogie sucker which is a small vesel with two pipes. One the adult sucks, the other goes up the baby's nose to relieve, err, conjestion. Mm, nice. Though being French, I'm surprised they bother with an interceptor vessel... Bit of garlic and some bogeys would be indistinguishable from snails. Agreed. |
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writes The message from Lobster contains these words: And, quite disugustingly, the French (that's where I first saw this) sell a baby bogie sucker which is a small vesel with two pipes. One the adult sucks, the other goes up the baby's nose to relieve, err, conjestion. Mm, nice. Though being French, I'm surprised they bother with an interceptor vessel... Bit of garlic and some bogeys would be indistinguishable from snails. I was about to reply in exactly the same words -- geoff |
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Grumps wrote: John Rumm wrote: Darren wrote: The drinks bottle crumpled up a bit, but I still managed to completely clear the pipework of about 6 pints of water in no time at all. neat. Same sort of idea to a surgical vacuum like used in hospital... the interceptor vessel catches all the gloop before it gets sucked into the pipework. And, quite disugustingly, the French (that's where I first saw this) sell a baby bogie sucker which is a small vesel with two pipes. One the adult sucks, the other goes up the baby's nose to relieve, err, conjestion. They sell them in this fair land as well. They don't work they are rubbish. We fbought one in desperation during a 6 month old baby, unsleepingly desperate snot-fest. We also in desperation tried the 'manual' approach. This also didn't work. Thankfully this meant I didn't get a mouthful of poormans oysters. Rubbing the bridge of the nose witha warm flannel for a couple of minutes however saw the stuff flying out and led to a significantly calmer little person. -- Steve F |
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from "Fitz" contains these words: Rubbing the bridge of the nose witha warm flannel for a couple of minutes however saw the stuff flying out and led to a significantly calmer little person. You can just whirl them round and round by their ankles, but then you have to redecorate. Unless you happen to like green stripes. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Guy King saying something like: Rubbing the bridge of the nose witha warm flannel for a couple of minutes however saw the stuff flying out and led to a significantly calmer little person. You can just whirl them round and round by their ankles, but then you have to redecorate. Unless you happen to like green stripes. Nostrils are up the wrong way; best grip them by the ears pre-whirl. -- Dave |
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Fitz wrote:
Grumps wrote: And, quite disugustingly, the French (that's where I first saw this) sell a baby bogie sucker which is a small vesel with two pipes. One the adult sucks, the other goes up the baby's nose to relieve, err, conjestion. They sell them in this fair land as well. They don't work they are rubbish. We fbought one in desperation during a 6 month old baby, unsleepingly desperate snot-fest. !!! Do you have a URL for it? (just interested, that's all; my kids are now of an age at which if I tried using a mucus pooter (pooter - what a wonderful word!) to suck bogies out of their noses they's probably try to shove the thing up my fundamental orifice and/or phone Childline) Rubbing the bridge of the nose witha warm flannel for a couple of minutes however saw the stuff flying out and led to a significantly calmer little person. Never mind that, how was the baby? David |
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And, quite disugustingly, the French (that's where I first saw this) sell
a baby bogie sucker which is a small vesel with two pipes. One the adult sucks, the other goes up the baby's nose to relieve, err, conjestion. A slightly less disgusting version of this was on sale widely in Belgium in the mid-90s where we were living at the time and had our first and only child. As above except that the adult was replaced with a large rubber bulb. Should one forget to squeeze the bulb _before_ rather than _after_ sticking the glass tube up the baby's snout, I suppose it might have produced a v grumpy baby rather than a glass tube full of snot. Luckily I don't think I ever did that despite the joyous delirium of early fatherhood. |
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In message , rrh
writes And, quite disugustingly, the French (that's where I first saw this) sell a baby bogie sucker which is a small vesel with two pipes. One the adult sucks, the other goes up the baby's nose to relieve, err, conjestion. A slightly less disgusting version of this was on sale widely in Belgium in the mid-90s where we were living at the time and had our first and only child. As above except that the adult was replaced with a large rubber bulb. Should one forget to squeeze the bulb _before_ rather than _after_ sticking the glass tube up the baby's snout, I suppose it might have produced a v grumpy baby rather than a glass tube full of snot. Luckily I don't think I ever did that despite the joyous delirium of early fatherhood. You could always blow the baby up, close the mouth and then thump the chest ... -- geoff |
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from John Rumm contains these words: neat. Same sort of idea to a surgical vacuum like used in hospital... the interceptor vessel catches all the gloop before it gets sucked into the pipework. It's a glorified insect-collector's pooter. Very sensible. http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz/re...es/3pooter.jpg -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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Darren wrote:
Not sure if I reinverted the wheel, but after draining my central heating system to allow me to do some soldering, there was still water in the pipework near where I wanted to solder a new joint. To clear it I did the following:- Cut a hole in the side of an empty 2 ltr drinks bottle, Removed the screw top and connect the bottle top to the pipe using a short lenght of hose, Laid the bottle flat, rotating the bottle so the hole I made was facing up, Switched on a dyson vacuum cleaner and held nozzel close to hole in side of bottle. Water was sucked into the bottle, but wasn't sucked up into dyson nozzel. Isn't this the same principle as a wet 'n dry vacuum cleaner. john2 |
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writes Not sure if I reinverted the wheel, Snip useful tip On a similar vein I needed to run some data cabling across the house, there was some disused c/h pipework running between the two locations, but due to the number of elbows on the route I couldn't feed the cables through . . . until I connected the vacuum cleaner to one end and sucked some thin string through, which pulled some thick string through, which pulled the data cable through, lots of floor lifting and carpet removal avoided. -- Due to the very painful lack of quoting Google promotes, all Usenet posts originating from Google users are now deleted unseen, this means if you post from Google I won't see it. N.B. the preceding sig is copyright free, feel free to copy it. == bof at bof dot me dot uk == |
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bof wrote: Due to the very painful lack of quoting Google promotes, ********, it does. posts originating from Google users are now deleted unseen, It's your loss. |
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Darren wrote: Not sure if I reinverted the wheel, but after draining my central heating system to allow me to do some soldering, there was still water in the pipework near where I wanted to solder a new joint. To clear it I did the following:- Cut a hole in the side of an empty 2 ltr drinks bottle, Removed the screw top and connect the bottle top to the pipe using a short lenght of hose, Laid the bottle flat, rotating the bottle so the hole I made was facing up, Switched on a dyson vacuum cleaner and held nozzel close to hole in side of bottle. Water was sucked into the bottle, but wasn't sucked up into dyson nozzel. The drinks bottle crumpled up a bit, but I still managed to completely clear the pipework of about 6 pints of water in no time at all. Darren. Nice idea but my vax already does that itself as it's a wet & dry machine. John |
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Darren wrote: The drinks bottle crumpled up a bit, but I still managed to completely clear the pipework of about 6 pints of water in no time at all. Good idea mate - If there's a much smaller quantity of water shove a chunk of bread up the pipe - provided you can flush it out afterwards of course. |
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