These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.

Doctor Drivel wrote:
These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when
on cable? I have never looked into this.

Not sure but I'd avoid them anyway.

The upgrade cycle for a STB is (currently) far shorter than a TV, in a few
years time you'd have a relatively new TV with an obsolete "STB".

I've owned both and speak from experience!

R.

Doctor Drivel wrote:
These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.

You doughnut. Try somewhere appropriate. Take your chav query off
onto uk.media.tv.cable, or free.uk.tv.bigbrother or somewhere.

"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.

You doughnut. Try somewhere appropriate. Take your chav query off
onto uk.media.tv.cable, or free.uk.tv.bigbrother or somewhere.

Apologies to normal people. This man is clearly a lunatic.

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Chris Bacon" wrote...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when
on cable? I have never looked into this.
You doughnut. Try somewhere appropriate. Take your chav query off
onto uk.media.tv.cable, or free.uk.tv.bigbrother or somewhere.

Apologies to normal people. This man is clearly a lunatic.

Oh well, stay on your own, then. Get a 42" plasma screen so that
you can watch soaps on it in solitary splendour (thank goodness).

"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Chris Bacon" wrote...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.
You doughnut. Try somewhere appropriate. Take your chav query off
onto uk.media.tv.cable, or free.uk.tv.bigbrother or somewhere.

Apologies to normal people. This man is clearly a lunatic.

Oh well, stay on your own, then. Get a 42" plasma screen so that
you can watch soaps on it in solitary splendour (thank goodness).

Flags. See how the Hawaian flag has the UK flag in the corner.
http://www.50states.com/flag/hiflag.htm

Chris Bacon wrote:

Doctor Drivel wrote:

These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when
on cable? I have never looked into this.


You doughnut. Try somewhere appropriate. Take your chav query off
onto uk.media.tv.cable, or free.uk.tv.bigbrother or somewhere.

In this instance...

:-:

Dave

"Dave" wrote in message
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Chris Bacon wrote:

Doctor Drivel wrote:

These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.


You doughnut. Try somewhere appropriate. Take your chav query off
onto uk.media.tv.cable, or free.uk.tv.bigbrother or somewhere.

In this instance...

:-:

Dave

Flags.
The American Confederate Stainless Banner. Lowered for the last time on 6th
November 1865 at Liverpool, England, when CSS Shenandoah surrendered to HMS
Donegal. Note the insert stars and bars and white background.

http://ngeorgia.com/images/2ndnat.gif

Flags.

"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.

You doughnut. Try somewhere appropriate. Take your chav query off
onto uk.media.tv.cable, or free.uk.tv.bigbrother or somewhere.

uk.tech.digital-tv would likely be an appropriate ng.

AIUI for cable you need to use an STB that matches whatever technology a
particular cable supplier is using. A Freeview STB or integrated Freeview
receiver will not work with cable.


--

Michael Chare

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...
These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.

If your TV's RF socket is plugged into the cable box, then you will not get
Freeview. Only connecting the TV to an TV aerial will you get the Freeview
digital signals.

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...
These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.


We get all our TV fed through cable here in Milton Keynes and you have to
get an aerial put on the roof to get the Freeview channels. Which hardly
seems worth the expense and effort to me.

I get all the Freeview channels through my Sky+ connection.

You can easily tell round here who's getting Freeview as they're the ones
with an aerial, oh, and are normally over 50 and have some contrived
political reason for not paying for Sky...when the truth is they're just too
tight.

RedOnRed wrote:
We get all our TV fed through cable here in Milton Keynes and you have to
get an aerial put on the roof to get the Freeview channels. Which hardly
seems worth the expense and effort to me.

I get all the Freeview channels through my Sky+ connection.

You can easily tell round here who's getting Freeview as they're the ones
with an aerial, oh, and are normally over 50 and have some contrived
political reason for not paying for Sky...when the truth is they're just too
tight.

Or rather it's a load of trash not worth paying for? And why would you
want to have Sky *and* cable?

Alex

"Alex" wrote in message
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RedOnRed wrote:
We get all our TV fed through cable here in Milton Keynes and you have to
get an aerial put on the roof to get the Freeview channels. Which hardly
seems worth the expense and effort to me.

I get all the Freeview channels through my Sky+ connection.

You can easily tell round here who's getting Freeview as they're the ones
with an aerial, oh, and are normally over 50 and have some contrived
political reason for not paying for Sky...when the truth is they're just
too tight.

Or rather it's a load of trash not worth paying for? And why would you
want to have Sky *and* cable?

Alex



In our area you can only get anologue Sky through the cable service. NTL are
yet to invest in the cable infrastructure.

Anyway, why's it a load of trash? Or need I ask as you fall inside my
demographics?

"RedOnRed" wrote in message
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"Alex" wrote in message
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RedOnRed wrote:
We get all our TV fed through cable here in Milton Keynes and you have
to get an aerial put on the roof to get the Freeview channels. Which
hardly seems worth the expense and effort to me.

I get all the Freeview channels through my Sky+ connection.

You can easily tell round here who's getting Freeview as they're the
ones with an aerial, oh, and are normally over 50 and have some
contrived political reason for not paying for Sky...when the truth is
they're just too tight.

Or rather it's a load of trash not worth paying for? And why would you
want to have Sky *and* cable?

Alex

In our area you can only get anologue Sky through the cable service. NTL
are yet to invest in the cable infrastructure.

So in your area NTL do not broadcast Freeview down their lines. You will
need an aerial to get it, unless on Sky?

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
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"RedOnRed" wrote in message
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"Alex" wrote in message
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RedOnRed wrote:
We get all our TV fed through cable here in Milton Keynes and you have
to get an aerial put on the roof to get the Freeview channels. Which
hardly seems worth the expense and effort to me.

I get all the Freeview channels through my Sky+ connection.

You can easily tell round here who's getting Freeview as they're the
ones with an aerial, oh, and are normally over 50 and have some
contrived political reason for not paying for Sky...when the truth is
they're just too tight.

Or rather it's a load of trash not worth paying for? And why would you
want to have Sky *and* cable?

Alex

In our area you can only get anologue Sky through the cable service. NTL
are yet to invest in the cable infrastructure.

So in your area NTL do not broadcast Freeview down their lines. You will
need an aerial to get it, unless on Sky?


Correct.

"RedOnRed" wrote in message
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...
These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.


We get all our TV fed through cable here in Milton Keynes and you have to
get an aerial put on the roof to get the Freeview channels. Which hardly
seems worth the expense and effort to me.

I get all the Freeview channels through my Sky+ connection.

You can easily tell round here who's getting Freeview as they're the ones
with an aerial, oh, and are normally over 50 and have some contrived
political reason for not paying for Sky...when the truth is they're just
too tight.

I thought Milton Keynes banned external aerials. Paying £30-40 a month,
which may be near £500 a year for sweet FA on Sky is Freeview time. Don't
Sky have a one off deal to fit a dish that can receive Freeview better than
an aerial?

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Doctor Drivel wrote:

Don't Sky have a one off deal to fit a dish that can receive
Freeview better than an aerial?

AIUI, that's not Freeview - it's FreeSAT. It may carry a similar (but not
identical) mix of channels, but it uses different technology and needs a
different sort of decoder (set top box). So a digital TV which contains the
equivalent of a Freeview STB won't be able to understand the signal from the
satellite.

I'm sure others will correct me if this is wrong!
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Roger Mills wrote:

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Doctor Drivel wrote:


Don't Sky have a one off deal to fit a dish that can receive
Freeview better than an aerial?


AIUI, that's not Freeview - it's FreeSAT. It may carry a similar (but not
identical) mix of channels, but it uses different technology and needs a
different sort of decoder (set top box). So a digital TV which contains the
equivalent of a Freeview STB won't be able to understand the signal from the
satellite.

I'm sure others will correct me if this is wrong!

Nope, that sounds about spot on. The bundle of channels is different
(although there is an overlap)

Freeview ones he

http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/dtt_channels.html

Sky he

http://www.freesatfromsky.co.uk/?pID=3

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In message , John
Rumm writes
Roger Mills wrote:

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Doctor Drivel wrote:

Don't Sky have a one off deal to fit a dish that can receive
Freeview better than an aerial?
AIUI, that's not Freeview - it's FreeSAT. It may carry a similar
(but not identical) mix of channels, but it uses different technology
and needs a different sort of decoder (set top box). So a digital TV
which contains the equivalent of a Freeview STB won't be able to
understand the signal from the satellite.
I'm sure others will correct me if this is wrong!

Nope, that sounds about spot on. The bundle of channels is different
(although there is an overlap)


Sky he

http://www.freesatfromsky.co.uk/?pID=3

Does it require a dedicated sky box, or will any sat. decoder work ?

--
geoff

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"RedOnRed" wrote in message
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...
These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.


We get all our TV fed through cable here in Milton Keynes and you have to
get an aerial put on the roof to get the Freeview channels. Which hardly
seems worth the expense and effort to me.

I get all the Freeview channels through my Sky+ connection.

You can easily tell round here who's getting Freeview as they're the ones
with an aerial, oh, and are normally over 50 and have some contrived
political reason for not paying for Sky...when the truth is they're just
too tight.

I thought Milton Keynes banned external aerials. Paying £30-40 a month,
which may be near £500 a year for sweet FA on Sky is Freeview time. Don't
Sky have a one off deal to fit a dish that can receive Freeview better
than an aerial?


Milton Keynes have/did banned roof aerials, but (unsurprisingly) it's not
enforced. There have been quite a few rulings from the early days which have
since been broken like "no building should be higher then the highest tree".

If you can somehow get a Sky satellite dish fitted along with a decoder then
you can get all the Freeview channels without having to subscribe to Sky.

Anyway, why on the one hand are you saying that there's "sweet FA" on Sky
but yet you're trying hard to get the Freeview channels which are generally
all a few leagues below sweet FA in quality?

RedOnRed wrote:

If you can somehow get a Sky satellite dish fitted along with a decoder then
you can get all the Freeview channels without having to subscribe to Sky.

Twaddle.

Many are the same granted, but there are many exceptions:

Freeview has More4, E4, FilmFour (coming soon), abc1, TMF, FTN, The Hits

There are plenty on freesat (mostly shopping and quiz channels) that are
not on freview, most useful is perhaps CNN


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"John Rumm" wrote in message
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RedOnRed wrote:

If you can somehow get a Sky satellite dish fitted along with a decoder
then you can get all the Freeview channels without having to subscribe to
Sky.

Twaddle.

Many are the same granted, but there are many exceptions:

Freeview has More4, E4, FilmFour (coming soon), abc1, TMF, FTN, The Hits

There are plenty on freesat (mostly shopping and quiz channels) that are
not on freview, most useful is perhaps CNN


--
Cheers,

John.

Which bit's "twaddle"?

I stopped subscribing to Sky for a while and got all the Freeview channels
plus more through my satellite and decoder setup.

In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
I thought Milton Keynes banned external aerials. Paying £30-40 a month,
which may be near £500 a year for sweet FA on Sky is Freeview time.
Don't Sky have a one off deal to fit a dish that can receive Freeview
better than an aerial?

MK have banned aerials but allow dishes? Another reason to avoid.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
I thought Milton Keynes banned external aerials. Paying £30-40 a month,
which may be near £500 a year for sweet FA on Sky is Freeview time.
Don't Sky have a one off deal to fit a dish that can receive Freeview
better than an aerial?

MK have banned aerials but allow dishes? Another reason to avoid.

--

MK banned rooftop aerials when MK first started. In those days the only
satellite dishes in use were either typically military or aerospace. I don't
think they ever predicted them being on peoples houses some 30 years later.

"RedOnRed" wrote in message
...

MK banned rooftop aerials when MK first started. In those days the only
satellite dishes in use were either typically military or aerospace. I
don't think they ever predicted them being on peoples houses some 30 years
later.

Do they enforce the aerial ban? On driving through I never seem to see any.
This gives the city a real clean uncluttered look.

In article ,
RedOnRed wrote:
You can easily tell round here who's getting Freeview as they're the
ones with an aerial, oh, and are normally over 50 and have some
contrived political reason for not paying for Sky...when the truth is
they're just too tight.

Some like me might prefer to see the dirty digger rot in hell before
giving him one penny...

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.

I might check next time I'm over my mother's house. She has NTL and
certainly used to get analogue terrestrial baseband down the cable. No idea
if they are now transmitting digital terrestrial signals as well, or have
reallocated the bandwidth to digital cable or something.

Christian.

Christian McArdle wrote:

I might check next time I'm over my mother's house. She has NTL and
certainly used to get analogue terrestrial baseband down the cable. No idea
if they are now transmitting digital terrestrial signals as well, or have
reallocated the bandwidth to digital cable or something.

It will be re-multiplexed and modulated according to the DVB-C standard,
which is quite different from DVB-T. AIUI "Freeview" only refers to the
DVB-T (DTT) platform.

--
Andy

It will be re-multiplexed and modulated according to the DVB-C standard,
which is quite different from DVB-T. AIUI "Freeview" only refers to the
DVB-T (DTT) platform.

Obviously it won't pick up the cable digital signal. However, the NTL
system, at least where we were, also rebroadcast analogue terrestrial signal
on the standard UHF frequency. There is no reason that they couldn't do the
same with the DVB-T signal. Whether they do or not is another matter. I
wouldn't be surprised if they had dropped the baseband analogue signal yonks
ago, let alone failed to rebroadcast the new digital multiplexes when they
came online.

Christian.

Doctor Drivel wrote:

These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.

The short answer is no. Two reasons, freeview is not supplied down
cable, and cable uses a different broadcast standard.

This is not to say you won't get some of the same channels delivered by
a variety of different digital services including cable, terrestrial,
and sat.

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Doctor Drivel wrote:
These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.

Yes. Just cut the cable with a hacksaw and fix it in the aerial socket
with plenty of PTFE tape.

MBQ

wrote:

Doctor Drivel wrote:

These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.


Yes. Just cut the cable with a hacksaw and fix it in the aerial socket
with plenty of PTFE tape.

But make sure you use compression fittings and not speedfit! ;-)

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wrote:

Doctor Drivel wrote:

These TVs with integrated Freeview. Will they receive Freeview when on
cable? I have never looked into this.


Yes. Just cut the cable with a hacksaw and fix it in the aerial socket
with plenty of PTFE tape.

But make sure you use compression fittings and not speedfit! ;-)

Flags:

Notice how there red at the top and bottom of this flag.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/flags/fp-flag.html

Flags:

Doctor Drivel wrote:
Flags:

Notice how there red at the top and bottom of this flag.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/flags/fp-flag.html

Flags:

These http://www.kingdomcelebration.com/children.htm are more
suitable for you.

MBQ

wrote:

These http://www.kingdomcelebration.com/children.htm are more
suitable for you.

Talk about muppet web authoring.... over a MB of graphics in the
thumbnails at the top of the page alone!

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