We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors wants
an electric one to replace it.

My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal electric
socket or would I need an electrician fit it?

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Steve Rainbird wrote:
We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.

My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal electric
socket or would I need an electrician fit it?

No it has to be wired direct to a 6mm TW&E outlet.

Don't you have an electric cooker point?

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"The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message
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Steve Rainbird wrote:
We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.

My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal electric
socket or would I need an electrician fit it?

No it has to be wired direct to a 6mm TW&E outlet.

Don't you have an electric cooker point?

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No not that I know of. The oven is in a kitchen extension and I assume
since they were going to install a gas oven they didn't bother putting one
in.


The current gas oven is plugged into a normal double socket.

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On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:40:40 GMT, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
wrote:

Steve Rainbird wrote:
We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.

My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal electric
socket or would I need an electrician fit it?

No it has to be wired direct to a 6mm TW&E outlet.

Of course it doesn't, you are thinking of a full cooker.
Ovens can be very low rating and many come with a 13amp plug on.


Don't you have an electric cooker point?

"EricP" wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:40:40 GMT, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
wrote:

Steve Rainbird wrote:
We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.

My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal electric
socket or would I need an electrician fit it?

No it has to be wired direct to a 6mm TW&E outlet.

Of course it doesn't, you are thinking of a full cooker.
Ovens can be very low rating and many come with a 13amp plug on.


Don't you have an electric cooker point?



This will be a double oven or oven and grill.

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On Thu, 25 May 2006 23:53:14 +0100, "Steve Rainbird"
wrote:

"EricP" wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:40:40 GMT, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
wrote:

Steve Rainbird wrote:
We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.

My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal electric
socket or would I need an electrician fit it?

No it has to be wired direct to a 6mm TW&E outlet.

Of course it doesn't, you are thinking of a full cooker.
Ovens can be very low rating and many come with a 13amp plug on.


Don't you have an electric cooker point?



This will be a double oven or oven and grill.

Look on the plate on it for the loading of it. A 13amp plug is good
for just over 3KW, but I wouldn't plug that much into a ring main if
it will be used a lot, it would be better to use the proper cooker
point.

If you can advise the full loading of the oven then someone can give
you chapter and verse on the proper procedure.

"Steve Rainbird" wrote in message
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"EricP" wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:40:40 GMT, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
wrote:

Steve Rainbird wrote:
We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.

My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal electric
socket or would I need an electrician fit it?

No it has to be wired direct to a 6mm TW&E outlet.

Of course it doesn't, you are thinking of a full cooker.
Ovens can be very low rating and many come with a 13amp plug on.


Don't you have an electric cooker point?



This will be a double oven or oven and grill.



As said, it will depend on how much current it draws. If its an oven with
electric rings then it'll almost certainly need a dedicated 6mm cable. If
its an oven/grill with a gas hob, it'll come with a plug on it, which can be
plugged into any socket. We had a full electric cooker, but we changed to
electric oven/gas hob. We already had the 6mm T&E there from the previous
cooker. I removed the 6mm cooker outlet, stuck a socket on it, and plugged
the oven into it. The 6mm wasnt required, but it was already there and now
the oven got its own MCB in the Consumer Unit. I'd be suprised if you dont
have a 6mm cable for a cooker in your kitchen, even if its been buired under
the floor-boards somewhere, most houses do have 'em.

Andy

Steve Rainbird wrote:
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:40:40 GMT, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
wrote:


Steve Rainbird wrote:

We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.

My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal electric
socket or would I need an electrician fit it?

No it has to be wired direct to a 6mm TW&E outlet.

Of course it doesn't, you are thinking of a full cooker.
Ovens can be very low rating and many come with a 13amp plug on.


Don't you have an electric cooker point?




This will be a double oven or oven and grill.

Most double ovens will need a seperate 30amp supply but you need to
check the kw of the oven

"Steve Rainbird" wrote in message
...
We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.

My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal electric
socket or would I need an electrician fit it?

--
Steve

It would be funny if you did ! You need it on it's own circuit in the same
way you couldn't plug an electric shower or immersion heater into a socket.

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EricP writes:

Look on the plate on it for the loading of it. A 13amp plug is good
for just over 3KW, but I wouldn't plug that much into a ring main if
it will be used a lot, it would be better to use the proper cooker
point.

If you can advise the full loading of the oven then someone can give
you chapter and verse on the proper procedure.

Most ovens nowdays come with a 13A plug on them and are intended
to be plugged in to a 13A outlet. However, a double oven is likely
to exceed this and may need wiring in. You will need to check this
with each model you consider.

I would also suggest you think carefully about a double oven. The
compromise with them is that even the larger oven tends to be quite
small (unless the whole thing is enormous), and in many cases
afterwards, people wished they bought a single oven unit with a
larger oven instead of the second oven which is almost never needed.
For the very occasional second oven use, you might consider also
having a microwave with convensional oven heating, which is what I
have done. I think this is much more flexible than a cramped double
oven.

--
Andrew Gabriel

"Steve Rainbird" wrote in message
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We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.

My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal electric
socket or would I need an electrician fit it?

Oh dear...........

To think we used to be so good at this.

If you buy a single oven which comes with a fitted plug, or is rated
below 3Kw, then you could plug it into a 13A socket.

However, it would be preferable to wire it into a Fused Connection unit
preferably on it's own dedicated circuit.

If that's not possible or easy, then one of these fitted as a spur off
the ring is still preferable to plugging it into an existing socket
IMHO.

If it doesn't come with a plug, and or is rated above 3kw and or it's
instructions give specific directions as to how it should be wired then
you will need to get a cooker circuit put in, or whatever it says in
the instructions.

HTH

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We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
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My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal electric
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Thanks for you replies everybody. Perhaps I will persuade her to stay gas.


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Steve Rainbird wrote:
"Steve Rainbird" wrote...
We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.

Thanks for you replies everybody. Perhaps I will persuade her to stay gas.

I'd be inclined to switch (!) to an electric oven. Keep the gas hob. If
it's a free-standing gas cooker, yes, replace it with another gas one!

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We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.

My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal
electric socket or would I need an electrician fit it?

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Thanks for you replies everybody. Perhaps I will persuade her to
stay gas.

That makes sense,you cant stick your head in an electricity one with the
same results as gas. ;-)

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Steve Rainbird wrote:
"EricP" wrote
"The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote:
Steve Rainbird wrote:
We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.
My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal electric
socket or would I need an electrician fit it?
No it has to be wired direct to a 6mm TW&E outlet.
Of course it doesn't, you are thinking of a full cooker.
Ovens can be very low rating and many come with a 13amp plug on.

Don't you have an electric cooker point?

This will be a double oven or oven and grill.

Why not ask the supplier of a prospective oven what supply is suitable,
or whether the thing comes with a plug??

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Steve Rainbird wrote:
"Steve Rainbird" wrote...
We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.

Thanks for you replies everybody. Perhaps I will persuade her to stay
gas.

I'd be inclined to switch (!) to an electric oven. Keep the gas hob. If
it's a free-standing gas cooker, yes, replace it with another gas one!



But I gathered I would need a big wiring job to have an electric one. If
it needs to be on its own circuit is it worth it?

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What a load of confusing advice. The only deciding factor is the wattage.
Without knowing that it is just guessing. Another useful advice is to look
at the consumer unit to see if there is a cooker circuit. Some people have a
cooker outlet replaced with a twin 13amp outlet if they have a gas cooker.

"Steve Rainbird" wrote in message
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"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
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Steve Rainbird wrote:
"Steve Rainbird" wrote...
We currently have an old gas oven that is on the blink. Her indoors
wants an electric one to replace it.

Thanks for you replies everybody. Perhaps I will persuade her to stay
gas.

I'd be inclined to switch (!) to an electric oven. Keep the gas hob. If
it's a free-standing gas cooker, yes, replace it with another gas one!



But I gathered I would need a big wiring job to have an electric one. If
it needs to be on its own circuit is it worth it?


Yup, especially if its a fan-assisted oven. can;t beat 'em IMHO.

Andy

On Fri, 26 May 2006 12:21:11 +0100 someone who may be "Steve
Rainbird" wrote this:-

But I gathered I would need a big wiring job to have an electric one. If it
needs to be on its own circuit is it worth it?

You and the boss need to consider the merits of gas and electric
ovens. Generally gas ones have the advantage that the temperature
varies through the oven, allowing different things to be cooked at
different temperatures. Generally electric ones have the advantage
of an even temperature in the oven, allowing lots of the same thing
to be cooked at the same temperature and they also warm up more
quickly. Both are generalisations, there are fan assisted gas ovens
and some electric ovens can be operated without the fan. It is a
matter of personal prejudice, but many people prefer a gas hob and
electric oven if they have the choice.

With double ovens ensure that the larger one is as large as a single
oven and the smaller one is much smaller and has all the facilities
of the large one, timer, fan and so on. Double ovens with two ovens
much the same size are not useful.

Having thought this through you will have some suitable models to
consider. If you want an electric one come back and tell us the
ratings. Someone may be kind enough to give you some specific advice
on it.

Generally single ovens are rated at under 2kW for the oven and a
more than 2kW for the grill. In theory they can be plugged into a
socket. However, as fixed equipment they should be wired in
"permanently". A plug and socket carrying a heavy current for long
periods in a hot location (like the back of an oven cabinet) is,
like a plug and socket in an airing cupboard for an immersion
heater, a recipe for fire.

If the ring is not heavily loaded then a load of up to 16A can be
connected to it if protected by a circuit breaker, or 13A if
protected by a fuse. However, the typical kitchen ring is already
blessed with washing equipment, kettles and so on, so is unlikely to
be lightly loaded.

The best solution is to run a proper cooker circuit from the
consumer unit to a suitable place in the kitchen. This will allow
the oven to be connected properly and provides future flexibility if
someone wants electric rings as well or an electric cooker. Unless
the run is a very long one there is no point in skimping on this
circuit and only providing one suitable for a small oven.




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In article ,
Steve Rainbird wrote:
My question is can I just plug an electric oven into a normal electric
socket or would I need an electrician fit it?

Depends on the oven. Look up the specs of the one you want. A single oven
will probably come with a fitted 13 amp plug.
I recently bought a double oven with grill which needs a dedicated cooker
point as it can take more than 13 amps.

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