who are the best suppliers or builders of a wall with
rocks encased in a wire cage to support a bank of earth.

can it be D.I.Y is it difficult to make ?? what are they called
and are there any alternative's
any good web sites...
thanks in advance

Reg

wrote:
wrote:

who are the best suppliers or builders of a wall with
rocks encased in a wire cage to support a bank of earth.

can it be D.I.Y is it difficult to make ?? what are they called
and are there any alternative's
any good web sites...
thanks in advance

Reg

get concrete slab reinforcement mesh
cut with bolt croppers / chop saw / angle grinder
assemble, bending the cut ends round to joint
pour in rocks, rubble, whatever.

To economise, put nice stones on the outer sides and fill the rest with
concrete rubble.

Still havent remembered the name for these things...

Gabion

wrote:

get concrete slab reinforcement mesh

Yes...


cut with bolt croppers

Ok...


/ chop saw

??? With a chop saw??


Still havent remembered the name for these things...

Gabion walls


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Grunff wrote:
meow2222 wrote:
get concrete slab reinforcement mesh
Yes...

Most of the "gabions" I've seen are made with galvanised
mesh, like chicken wire on steroids.

wrote:
who are the best suppliers or builders of a wall with
rocks encased in a wire cage to support a bank of earth.

Gabions
F. H. Brundles.
http://www.fhbrundle.com/

On 19 May 2006 07:15:14 -0500, wrote:

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| who are the best suppliers or builders of a wall with
|rocks encased in a wire cage to support a bank of earth.
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|can it be D.I.Y is it difficult to make ?? what are they called
|and are there any alternative's
|any good web sites...
|thanks in advance

Anything is better than those except for a quick bodge were it does not
really matter. Close to us they put those in supporting a high bank to a
small stream with *houses* on top of the bank. After about a year the
whole pile collapsed, and the houses, while still there, are unsalable.
Difficult to see what *anybody can do about the shambles. I would not
touch anything where those were used.
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Still havent remembered the name for these things...

Gabions.

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Difficult to see what *anybody can do about the shambles.

Major earthworks and lots of concrete, I expect.

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Dave Fawthrop wrote:
On 19 May 2006 07:15:14 -0500, wrote:

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| who are the best suppliers or builders of a wall with
|rocks encased in a wire cage to support a bank of earth.
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|can it be D.I.Y is it difficult to make ?? what are they called
|and are there any alternative's
|any good web sites...
|thanks in advance

Anything is better than those except for a quick bodge were it does not
really matter. Close to us they put those in supporting a high bank to a
small stream with *houses* on top of the bank. After about a year the
whole pile collapsed, and the houses, while still there, are unsalable.

The technique does not seem completely unsound, if the wire mesh is
properly specced, the rocks properly graded, and the calculations done.

If you wrap smooth rocks in chickenwire, and put a house on top, ...

Dave Fawthrop wrote:

re gabions:

Anything is better than those except for a quick bodge were it does not
really matter. Close to us they put those in supporting a high bank to a
small stream with *houses* on top of the bank. After about a year the
whole pile collapsed, and the houses, while still there, are unsalable.
Difficult to see what *anybody can do about the shambles. I would not
touch anything where those were used.

then the project was not competently engineered.


NT

Grunff wrote:
wrote:

cut with bolt croppers

Ok...


/ chop saw

??? With a chop saw??

I think cutoff saw was what I was reaching for.

NT

Grunff wrote:
wrote:

cut with bolt croppers

Ok...


/ chop saw

??? With a chop saw??

I think cutoff saw was what I was reaching for. Recommended for the
larger wire sizes.

NT

wrote:
who are the best suppliers or builders of a wall with
rocks encased in a wire cage to support a bank of earth.

can it be D.I.Y is it difficult to make ?? what are they called
and are there any alternative's
any good web sites...
thanks in advance

Reg

There are plenty of alternatives.
A gabion is nothing more than a lazy man's dry stone wall and I have serious
doubts about the mesh used to make them....I have seen large ones (4ft
cubes) used at a roadside near here and with saplings planted on the foot or
so of soil on top, the overall plan here is probably for the trees
themselves to take charge once the gabions have disintegrated by holding
everything together with their roots, something they are quite good at.

You could build a wall, either with brick, blocks, concrete or a mixture of
all three...how high is the bank of earth you are trying to hold back? -
what's holding it back now?

wrote:
who are the best suppliers or builders of a wall with
rocks encased in a wire cage to support a bank of earth.

can it be D.I.Y is it difficult to make ?? what are they called

Gabions

and are there any alternative's
any good web sites...

http://www.pavingexpert.com/featur04.htm


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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
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07850 597257

The Medway Handyman wrote:
wrote:
who are the best suppliers or builders of a wall with
rocks encased in a wire cage to support a bank of earth.

can it be D.I.Y is it difficult to make ?? what are they called

Gabions

and are there any alternative's
any good web sites...

http://www.pavingexpert.com/featur04.htm


I had a retaining wall built of girders and railway sleepers (I ignored
Cormaics advice to use gabions). The walls started failing the first
Winter, as a result I had to go through a solicitor to get the builder
back to correct the problem. Driving up, for example, up the M6 you
will see examples of gabions holding up very severe drops.

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