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Cost for council to replace window
Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by
18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Adam |
Cost for council to replace window
ARWadsworth wrote:
Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Oh dear. Trt uk.l.m for the duty soliciter bit. For the glass, probably less than about £150. Ask a glazier, and multiply by 1.5, at a guess. |
Cost for council to replace window
Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by
18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Personally, I would use a glazier. The council are for collecting taxes and rubbish... Fireproof glass is reasonably expensive, although the wired stuff is MUCH cheaper than the clear. Christian. |
Cost for council to replace window
On Tue, 02 May 2006 16:49:06 GMT, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Adam Why not do it yourself ...or claim your buldings insurance if u have it and it was accidental Stuart |
Cost for council to replace window
ARWadsworth wrote:
Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Adam How'd you manage to break wire glass? Go down to the cop station and report it as vanalised, they will log it. And the council will replace free of charge. -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
Cost for council to replace window
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Adam How'd you manage to break wire glass? Go down to the cop station and report it as vanalised, they will log it. And the council will replace free of charge. At a wild guess, the police broke it to effect entry. |
Cost for council to replace window
"The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message . uk... ARWadsworth wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Adam How'd you manage to break wire glass? Sledgehammer Go down to the cop station and report it as vanalised, they will log it. And the council will replace free of charge. It is not my house It is my next door neighbours. I did the criminal damage and I am sure the council will want paying. Adam |
Cost for council to replace window
Ian Stirling wrote:
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Cost for council to replace window
ARWadsworth wrote:
"The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message . uk... ARWadsworth wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Adam How'd you manage to break wire glass? Sledgehammer Go down to the cop station and report it as vanalised, they will log it. And the council will replace free of charge. It is not my house It is my next door neighbours. I did the criminal damage and I am sure the council will want paying. Adam Was the music too loud? -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
Cost for council to replace window
Ian Stirling wrote:
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Adam How'd you manage to break wire glass? Go down to the cop station and report it as vanalised, they will log it. And the council will replace free of charge. At a wild guess, the police broke it to effect entry. No need to report it in the cop station then. ;-) -- Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite |
Cost for council to replace window
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from "ARWadsworth" contains these words: It is not my house It is my next door neighbours. I did the criminal damage and I am sure the council will want paying. Well done for owning up to it! I'd just call a glazier and put your hand in your pocket - cheaper than getting a bill from the council. Best option of all (apart from not doing it in the first place) is go to the glazier and come home with a bit of glass and fit it yourself. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
Cost for council to replace window
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... "The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message . uk... ARWadsworth wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Adam How'd you manage to break wire glass? Sledgehammer Go down to the cop station and report it as vanalised, they will log it. And the council will replace free of charge. It is not my house It is my next door neighbours. I did the criminal damage and I am sure the council will want paying. Adam Just do it yourself - any decent glazier can provide 6mm wired glass to size, be it obscured or clear. It is probably only fixed with timber quadrant mouldings rather than putty. AWEM |
Cost for council to replace window
"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message ... "ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... "The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message . uk... ARWadsworth wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Adam How'd you manage to break wire glass? Sledgehammer Go down to the cop station and report it as vanalised, they will log it. And the council will replace free of charge. It is not my house It is my next door neighbours. I did the criminal damage and I am sure the council will want paying. Adam Just do it yourself - any decent glazier can provide 6mm wired glass to size, be it obscured or clear. It is probably only fixed with timber quadrant mouldings rather than putty. AWEM Do you think my next door neighbour will let me fix his window after I have smashed it with a sledgehammer and given him a good kicking in his own house? Adam |
Cost for council to replace window
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... "Andrew Mawson" wrote in message ... "ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... "The3rd Earl Of Derby" wrote in message . uk... ARWadsworth wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Adam How'd you manage to break wire glass? Sledgehammer Go down to the cop station and report it as vanalised, they will log it. And the council will replace free of charge. It is not my house It is my next door neighbours. I did the criminal damage and I am sure the council will want paying. Adam Just do it yourself - any decent glazier can provide 6mm wired glass to size, be it obscured or clear. It is probably only fixed with timber quadrant mouldings rather than putty. AWEM Do you think my next door neighbour will let me fix his window after I have smashed it with a sledgehammer and given him a good kicking in his own house? Adam If you've already done that then is he going to complain ? AWEM |
Cost for council to replace window
"Chris Bacon" wrote in message ... ARWadsworth wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Oh dear. Trt uk.l.m for the duty soliciter bit. Free according to http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_rights/legal_system/police_powers.htm Great that makes things cheaper. And no access to the net whilst in the cells. What a disgrace. I thought criminals got everything these days. Adam |
Cost for council to replace window
"Christian McArdle" wrote in message .. . Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Personally, I would use a glazier. The council are for collecting taxes and rubbish... Fireproof glass is reasonably expensive, although the wired stuff is MUCH cheaper than the clear. And uglier. Mary Christian. |
Cost for council to replace window
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message news:AnM5g.63007 Go down to the cop station and report it as vanalised, they will log it. And the council will replace free of charge. It is not my house It is my next door neighbours. I did the criminal damage LOL! |
Cost for council to replace window
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message news:rOM5g.63030 Do you think my next door neighbour will let me fix his window after I have smashed it with a sledgehammer and given him a good kicking in his own house? Oh go on, tell us everything. My drawers will never dry ... Mary Adam |
Cost for council to replace window
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... Do you think my next door neighbour will let me fix his window after I have smashed it with a sledgehammer and given him a good kicking in his own house? Premeditated assult as well as property damage, all admited on a public, searchable, persistant place, nice! Troll me thinks (that or just stoopid). |
Cost for council to replace window
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... "Andy" wrote in message ... "ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... Do you think my next door neighbour will let me fix his window after I have smashed it with a sledgehammer and given him a good kicking in his own house? Premeditated assult as well as property damage, all admited on a public, searchable, persistant place, nice! Troll me thinks (that or just stoopid). Do you think I can be arrested and charged twice for the same offences just because I asked how much the window will cost to replace on the net? No, but there's nowt as good as a public confession to save the court system some time. |
Cost for council to replace window
"Andy" wrote in message ... "ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... Do you think my next door neighbour will let me fix his window after I have smashed it with a sledgehammer and given him a good kicking in his own house? Premeditated assult as well as property damage, all admited on a public, searchable, persistant place, nice! Troll me thinks (that or just stoopid). Do you think I can be arrested and charged twice for the same offences just because I asked how much the window will cost to replace on the net? Adam |
Cost for council to replace window
ARWadsworth wrote:
"Chris Bacon" wrote... ARWadsworth wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Oh dear. Trt uk.l.m for the duty soliciter bit. Free according to http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_rights/legal_system/police_powers.htm Great that makes things cheaper. And no access to the net whilst in the cells. What a disgrace. I thought criminals got everything these days. Well, good luck with it (unless you've been unspeakably bad for no valid reason, of course). |
Cost for council to replace window
"Andy" wrote in message ... "ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... "Andy" wrote in message ... "ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... Do you think my next door neighbour will let me fix his window after I have smashed it with a sledgehammer and given him a good kicking in his own house? Premeditated assult as well as property damage, all admited on a public, searchable, persistant place, nice! Troll me thinks (that or just stoopid). Do you think I can be arrested and charged twice for the same offences just because I asked how much the window will cost to replace on the net? No, but there's nowt as good as a public confession to save the court system some time. Guilty as charged. As I told the police when in custody. Adam |
Cost for council to replace window
Andy wrote:
"ARWadsworth" wrote... Do you think my next door neighbour will let me fix his window after I have smashed it with a sledgehammer and given him a good kicking in his own house? Premeditated assult as well as property damage You ought to add "IANAL". |
Cost for council to replace window
"Mary Fisher" wrote in message t... "ARWadsworth" wrote in message news:rOM5g.63030 Do you think my next door neighbour will let me fix his window after I have smashed it with a sledgehammer and given him a good kicking in his own house? Oh go on, tell us everything. My drawers will never dry ... Mary The next door neighbour did not like me doing some DIY in my house on Bank Holiday Monday. His threats to my cats and me (using a pick axe) made me a little angry. It is surprising how the police cells allow you to calm down given enough time. Adam PS The new cells have great stainless steel bogs and sinks. Mind you I never saw the old ones. |
Cost for council to replace window
Andy wrote:
there's nowt as good as a public confession to save the court system some time. Why do you come out with stuff like that unless you're stirring the brown stuff? You've no idea what ARW was arrested (assumption) for, or what, if anything, ARW said at the time. |
Cost for council to replace window
"Chris Bacon" wrote in message ... Andy wrote: there's nowt as good as a public confession to save the court system some time. Why do you come out with stuff like that unless you're stirring the brown stuff? You've no idea what ARW was arrested (assumption) for, or what, if anything, ARW said at the time. I'm sure you're right, there must be a valid explaination for smashing down someone's door with a sledgehammer and then beating them up. Anyone without such a valid explaination would just be a lunatic thug. Troll though I think. |
Cost for council to replace window
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from "ARWadsworth" contains these words: Do you think my next door neighbour will let me fix his window after I have smashed it with a sledgehammer and given him a good kicking in his own house? Depends on how much he thinks you're going to give him another kicking, I'd have thought. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
Cost for council to replace window
"Andy" wrote in message ... "Chris Bacon" wrote in message ... Andy wrote: there's nowt as good as a public confession to save the court system some time. Why do you come out with stuff like that unless you're stirring the brown stuff? You've no idea what ARW was arrested (assumption) for, or what, if anything, ARW said at the time. I'm sure you're right, there must be a valid explaination for smashing down someone's door with a sledgehammer and then beating them up. Anyone without such a valid explaination would just be a lunatic thug. Troll though I think. See my reply to Mary. Adam PS So what do you think the window will cost? We could do a sweep stake. That would make a change from plasic pipes and the winner still gets FA. I will start with £120 (inc Vat and the lot) Any other offers? I will post a copy of the letter that will no doubt arrive through my post box soon with the total inside. |
Cost for council to replace window
Andy wrote:
"Chris Bacon" wrote... Andy wrote: there's nowt as good as a public confession to save the court system some time. Why do you come out with stuff like that unless you're stirring the brown stuff? You've no idea what ARW was arrested (assumption) for, or what, if anything, ARW said at the time. I'm sure you're right, there must be a valid explaination for smashing down someone's door with a sledgehammer and then beating them up. I don't know of the exact circumstances, but... Anyone without such a valid explaination would just be a lunatic thug. A saving "valid explanation" to be offered to the court would have to be quite something, IMO. Troll though I think. I should think that Mr. W. will shortly be absent for a little while, that depending on various things. |
Cost for council to replace window
ARWadsworth wrote:
Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. After reading the thread and knowing the circumstances, I can safely say that the council will not replace the glass, they will more likely change the door and even possibly the door frame too, after all, they are getting paid to do it and if it were my house this is what I too would do, they're highly unlikely to keep costs down. Expect it to be no less than £500 Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? No they're not free, you may get legal aid depending on your circumstances but if not, expect a bill of £90ish Depending upon damage to neighbours face, expect to pay compensation of about a grand, maybe more, plus a fine, all in all it should cost you about £2000, but at least you saved some cash by not getting a builder in and doing it yourself. :-p |
Cost for council to replace window
Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? No they're not free, you may get legal aid depending on your circumstances but if not, expect a bill of £90ish Wrong Its Free at the Police station regardless of your financial status, it is of course different when you appear at the local mags court. |
Cost for council to replace window
"Phil L" wrote in message k... ARWadsworth wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. After reading the thread and knowing the circumstances, I can safely say that the council will not replace the glass, they will more likely change the door and even possibly the door frame too, after all, they are getting paid to do it and if it were my house this is what I too would do, they're highly unlikely to keep costs down. Expect it to be no less than £500 snip ========================== The Council will have to take some kind of legal action to make you pay for the damage and almost certainly they have an obligation to claim only for the actual damage. They can't claim for a new door and frame just for their convenience. Even a sledge hammer used on a pane of glass is not likely to cause damage requiring a whole new door and frame. Since you've been charged with causing criminal damage it will probably be up to the Court to make some kind of order for restitution - if you're convicted. They may not make any such order and if they don't the Council may feel that it's not worth pursuing you for the cost. Cic. -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 212 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! |
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Cicero wrote:
"Phil L" wrote in message k... ARWadsworth wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. After reading the thread and knowing the circumstances, I can safely say that the council will not replace the glass, they will more likely change the door and even possibly the door frame too, after all, they are getting paid to do it and if it were my house this is what I too would do, they're highly unlikely to keep costs down. Expect it to be no less than £500 snip ========================== The Council will have to take some kind of legal action to make you pay for the damage and almost certainly they have an obligation to claim only for the actual damage. They can't claim for a new door and frame just for their convenience. Even a sledge hammer used on a pane of glass is not likely to cause damage requiring a whole new door and frame. Maybe the frame wasn't damaged, but the door could certainly have been almost destroyed - georgian wired glass? - add a few tubes of silicone and well screwed in internal beads and it's fairly safe to say that the inside of the door will be beyond repair, but this is just conjecture, it could have been on a thin bed of old putty and fell out with the first crack. The door frame is questionable but not impossible, if it's showing signs of rot, the council will not hang a new door on a rotten frame and simply claim that it was knocked out of square by the sledghammer. Since you've been charged with causing criminal damage it will probably be up to the Court to make some kind of order for restitution - if you're convicted. They may not make any such order and if they don't the Council may feel that it's not worth pursuing you for the cost. IANAL but I am a landlord, and anyone causing criminal damage to any of my properties will pay for the full cost if caught, I can't imagine that a local authority would be any different. |
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ARWadsworth writes Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. My guess, 10quid for materials plus no more than an hour labour so daytime rates 50quid or emergency call out 100quid. Whatever the charge it should be no greater than a tradesman would charge to do the same job. They have suffered a loss but can't charge you a disproportionate amount to put that right, they must mitigate the loss and not charge you for unnecessary work. Bear in mind however that it could be difficult to prove what was absolutely necessary if parts are removed from the site and skipped after the job. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Representation at the police station whilst under questioning is free whether by the duty solicitor or your own. You may also be permitted free advice from a duty solicitor at court although that is said to be more problematic, far better to have your own if that is the way it goes. Sorry to see you in this spot Adam and hope it goes well for you. IANAL. -- fred Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla |
Cost for council to replace window
"Phil L" wrote in message . uk... Cicero wrote: "Phil L" wrote in message k... ARWadsworth wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. After reading the thread and knowing the circumstances, I can safely say that the council will not replace the glass, they will more likely change the door and even possibly the door frame too, after all, they are getting paid to do it and if it were my house this is what I too would do, they're highly unlikely to keep costs down. Expect it to be no less than £500 snip ========================== The Council will have to take some kind of legal action to make you pay for the damage and almost certainly they have an obligation to claim only for the actual damage. They can't claim for a new door and frame just for their convenience. Even a sledge hammer used on a pane of glass is not likely to cause damage requiring a whole new door and frame. Maybe the frame wasn't damaged, but the door could certainly have been almost destroyed - georgian wired glass? - add a few tubes of silicone and well screwed in internal beads and it's fairly safe to say that the inside of the door will be beyond repair, but this is just conjecture, it could have been on a thin bed of old putty and fell out with the first crack. The door frame is questionable but not impossible, if it's showing signs of rot, the council will not hang a new door on a rotten frame and simply claim that it was knocked out of square by the sledghammer. Since you've been charged with causing criminal damage it will probably be up to the Court to make some kind of order for restitution - if you're convicted. They may not make any such order and if they don't the Council may feel that it's not worth pursuing you for the cost. IANAL but I am a landlord, and anyone causing criminal damage to any of my properties will pay for the full cost if caught, I can't imagine that a local authority would be any different. ==================== I agree that the Council will want their full 'pound of flesh' but they are obliged to mitigate their losses. If the door and frame were in poor condition I doubt if they could claim the full cost of a new door and frame. As far as compelling crooks to pay for criminal damage is concerned, the operative words are, 'if caught'. We seem to live in a society in which causing criminal damage is seen as just a little bit of casual pleasure for bored juveniles. Cic. |
Cost for council to replace window
"Phil L" wrote in message . uk... Cicero wrote: "Phil L" wrote in message k... ARWadsworth wrote: Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. After reading the thread and knowing the circumstances, I can safely say that the council will not replace the glass, they will more likely change the door and even possibly the door frame too, after all, they are getting paid to do it and if it were my house this is what I too would do, they're highly unlikely to keep costs down. Expect it to be no less than £500 snip ========================== The Council will have to take some kind of legal action to make you pay for the damage and almost certainly they have an obligation to claim only for the actual damage. They can't claim for a new door and frame just for their convenience. Even a sledge hammer used on a pane of glass is not likely to cause damage requiring a whole new door and frame. Maybe the frame wasn't damaged, but the door could certainly have been almost destroyed - georgian wired glass? - add a few tubes of silicone and well screwed in internal beads and it's fairly safe to say that the inside of the door will be beyond repair, but this is just conjecture, it could have been on a thin bed of old putty and fell out with the first crack. The door frame is questionable but not impossible, if it's showing signs of rot, the council will not hang a new door on a rotten frame and simply claim that it was knocked out of square by the sledghammer. Since you've been charged with causing criminal damage it will probably be up to the Court to make some kind of order for restitution - if you're convicted. They may not make any such order and if they don't the Council may feel that it's not worth pursuing you for the cost. IANAL but I am a landlord, and anyone causing criminal damage to any of my properties will pay for the full cost if caught, I can't imagine that a local authority would be any different. ==================== I agree that the Council will want their full 'pound of flesh' but they are obliged to mitigate their losses. If the door and frame were in poor condition I doubt if they could claim the full cost of a new door and frame. As far as compelling crooks to pay for criminal damage is concerned, the operative words are, 'if caught'. We seem to live in a society in which causing criminal damage is seen as just a little bit of casual pleasure for bored juveniles. Cic. -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 212 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! |
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writes "Chris Bacon" wrote in message ... Andy wrote: there's nowt as good as a public confession to save the court system some time. Why do you come out with stuff like that unless you're stirring the brown stuff? You've no idea what ARW was arrested (assumption) for, or what, if anything, ARW said at the time. I'm sure you're right, there must be a valid explaination for smashing down someone's door with a sledgehammer and then beating them up. I think someone might have called him a troll ... -- geoff |
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In message , Andy
writes "ARWadsworth" wrote in message .uk... Do you think my next door neighbour will let me fix his window after I have smashed it with a sledgehammer and given him a good kicking in his own house? Premeditated assult as well as property damage, all admited on a public, searchable, persistant place, nice! Troll me thinks (that or just stoopid). Sorry to smash your bubble - he's a known poster to the NG -- geoff |
Cost for council to replace window
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message . uk... Any ideas how much my local council will charge me to replace a 18 inch by 18 inch window in a front door? It is the sort of glass that has wire mesh through it. Oh, and does the duty solicitor send you a bill or are they free? Adam As someone already said they are free at the police station. When I experienced it my solicitor sent me a copy of the bill, he was charging the Government (or whoever) £165 an hour and he was there for at least 4 hours (sitting around doing nothing for at least 3 I must add!) |
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