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I was in my local newsagent in London and saw he had a card of button
cells behind the till which he was selling at £2.99 each. I recognised the card of cells as one which I can get from my local pound shop for £1. It contains about 16 cells. Considering that the pound shop makes a profit then it will already have raised the price from something like 50p. I can't say exactly what the mark up is here for the newsagent as he may get left with oddment batteries that he can't sell but he makes a markup of about £2.50 on 50p (500%) if he sold just one battery! His total markup is in the thousands of percent. Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? |
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"Andy" wrote in message ... Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? Just pop into a chemist and buy some perfume or aftershave. |
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Soft drinks in pubs and night clubs - they buy the stuff in bulk as
concentrate and mix it with carbonated water on site. A £2.50 glass is 250ml and typically costs around 5p. Just as with the shop, you're paying for the convenience. |
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:06:22 +0100 Andy wrote :
Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? Homebase selling green sleeving in packets for 99p for a 1m length? -- Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk Free SEDBUK boiler database browser http://www.sda.co.uk/qsedbuk.htm [Latest version QSEDBUK 1.12 released 8 Dec 2005] |
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Andy wrote:
I was in my local newsagent in London and saw he had a card of button cells behind the till which he was selling at £2.99 each. I recognised the card of cells as one which I can get from my local pound shop for £1. It contains about 16 cells. Considering that the pound shop makes a profit then it will already have raised the price from something like 50p. I can't say exactly what the mark up is here for the newsagent as he may get left with oddment batteries that he can't sell but he makes a markup of about £2.50 on 50p (500%) if he sold just one battery! His total markup is in the thousands of percent. Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? B&Q doing flexi monobloc tap tails for a tenner when screwfix have them for two quid! |
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"Madge O'Reene" wrote in message ups.com... Soft drinks in pubs and night clubs - they buy the stuff in bulk as concentrate and mix it with carbonated water on site. A £2.50 glass is 250ml and typically costs around 5p. Just as with the shop, you're paying for the convenience. In a pub or club or cafe you are not buying a drink. You are spending time in the owners property for which they have to pay he freehold or lease costs, business rates, water rates, fuel for heating, lighting, and cooling the place, all the furniture/carpets, glasses, equipment, staff costs, repairs to damage every week, alarms, the list goes on... |
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In article ,
Andy wrote: His total markup is in the thousands of percent. Unless you know that he purchased the item from the same source as the pound shop you cannot make that assumption. Pound shops generally do not provide the continuity of products that is essential for trade. Comparing any other business with them is unacceptable unless you also accept the possibility of your retailers saying to you that the cells you require for essential equipment can no longer be supplied - and you should have bought them last week when they were dirt cheap. A healthy economy does not function at the level of the sale of bankrupt stock. -- John Cartmell john@ followed by finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing |
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me:
In a pub or club or cafe you are not buying a drink. You are spending time in the owners property for which they have to pay he freehold or lease costs, business rates, water rates, fuel for heating, lighting, and cooling the place, all the furniture/carpets, glasses, equipment, staff costs, repairs to damage every week, alarms, the list goes on... Shops have many of those costs to cover too, along with all the theft that takes place from their shops too. I'm certainly not criticising either the shop or the pub for their mark up - with family in both industries, I'm aware that there's a huge amount of costs to make up between wholesale and retail prices. But pubs do make a much larger margin on soft drinks than they do on alcoholic drinks. |
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But pubs do make a much larger margin on soft drinks than
they do on alcoholic drinks. I think it is justifiable, though. You can't drink many pints of Coke in the same way you can with beer. I bet that statistically, a soft drinker will spend a lot longer in the pub for one drink that the average beer drinker. Therefore, soft drinks need to have a larger mark up to get a fairer share of the fixed costs. Christian. |
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But pubs do make a much larger margin on soft drinks than
they do on alcoholic drinks. Christian McArdle: I think it is justifiable, though. You can't drink many pints of Coke in the same way you can with beer. I bet that statistically, a soft drinker will spend a lot longer in the pub for one drink that the average beer drinker. Therefore, soft drinks need to have a larger mark up to get a fairer share of the fixed costs. I totally agree. In fact, whereever there's a free market, such as the examples above, I believe that any pricing is fair and justifiable pricing. Smart retailers know that profiteering is only good for the short term. |
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"dennis@home" wrote in
. uk: "Andy" wrote in message ... Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? Just pop into a chemist and buy some perfume or aftershave. Or value the plastic and isopropanol in the average audio gear cleaning kit. |
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"Andy" wrote:
I was in my local newsagent in London and saw he had a card of button cells behind the till which he was selling at £2.99 each. I recognised the card of cells as one which I can get from my local pound shop for £1. It contains about 16 cells. Considering that the pound shop makes a profit then it will already have raised the price from something like 50p. I can't say exactly what the mark up is here for the newsagent as he may get left with oddment batteries that he can't sell but he makes a markup of about £2.50 on 50p (500%) if he sold just one battery! His total markup is in the thousands of percent. Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? Yes, the water companies. They get their supplies FREE, waste at least a third of it, then rip us off for the rest. Phil |
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"Andy" wrote in message ... I was in my local newsagent in London and saw he had a card of button cells behind the till which he was selling at £2.99 each. I recognised the card of cells as one which I can get from my local pound shop for £1. It contains about 16 cells. Considering that the pound shop makes a profit then it will already have raised the price from something like 50p. I can't say exactly what the mark up is here for the newsagent as he may get left with oddment batteries that he can't sell but he makes a markup of about £2.50 on 50p (500%) if he sold just one battery! His total markup is in the thousands of percent. Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? I saw the same sort of thing in a shop in Lincoln some time ago. Unbelievable! Mary |
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Phil Anthropist:
Yes, the water companies. They get their supplies FREE, waste at least a third of it, then rip us off for the rest. Phil Well, if you're being like that, any service industry could be said to do the same - they don't produce, just "do things". In the case of the water companies, they clean the water and deliver it to you on demand (by and large). You don't have to use them - you *could* collect and clean your own water. For that matter, by your logic, you could say that (at the very least) arable farmers "don't pay" for the produce they sell, although there are a damned load of hidden costs that are needed to make the product available to you. |
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Mary Fisher:
I saw the same sort of thing in a shop in Lincoln some time ago. Unbelievable! Mary Why is it unbelievable? What do you do for a living? Are the the LOWEST PAID person doing your job? In your company? In your town? In your country? In the world? Unbelievable! Here's a simple idea - if you think a shop is charging too much, don't buy from them. If you think their margin is an acceptable price to pay for the convenience, then do buy from them. Or are you against the whole idea of shops making a profit, paying their staff and suppliers, etc? |
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"Madge O'Reene" wrote in message oups.com... But pubs do make a much larger margin on soft drinks than they do on alcoholic drinks. Christian McArdle: I think it is justifiable, though. You can't drink many pints of Coke in the same way you can with beer. I bet that statistically, a soft drinker will spend a lot longer in the pub for one drink that the average beer drinker. Therefore, soft drinks need to have a larger mark up to get a fairer share of the fixed costs. I totally agree. In fact, whereever there's a free market, such as the examples above, I believe that any pricing is fair and justifiable pricing. Smart retailers know that profiteering is only good for the short term. Causes problems when they are trying to promote a designated driver scheme though. |
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Madge O'Reene wrote:
What do you do for a living? Are the the LOWEST PAID person doing your job? In your company? In your town? In your country? In the world? Unbelievable! ??? WTFDTM? (work it out) OK Madgy baby - we get the pictu everything is for the best in the best of all free market worlds. Give it a rest now, eh? Yours bored with you PaulF |
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"Phil Anthropist" wrote in message
... "Andy" wrote: I was in my local newsagent in London and saw he had a card of button cells behind the till which he was selling at £2.99 each. I recognised the card of cells as one which I can get from my local pound shop for £1. It contains about 16 cells. Considering that the pound shop makes a profit then it will already have raised the price from something like 50p. I can't say exactly what the mark up is here for the newsagent as he may get left with oddment batteries that he can't sell but he makes a markup of about £2.50 on 50p (500%) if he sold just one battery! His total markup is in the thousands of percent. Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? Yes, the water companies. They get their supplies FREE, waste at least a third of it, then rip us off for the rest. Phil So stop paying them - you are welcome to hire a drilling rig, drill a borehole, install a pump and pump out the water you need. Building and operating your own sewage plant might be harder but you could probably set up a reed bed filtration scheme. Andy |
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So stop paying them - you are welcome to hire a drilling rig, drill a
borehole, install a pump and pump out the water you need. Building and operating your own sewage plant might be harder but you could probably set up a reed bed filtration scheme. Actually, doing the sewage is easy with a Klargester Biodisc. Assuming the groundwater supply is OK, a borehole up to 20m3 a day doesn't even need permission. Drilling it could be expensive, though! Christian. |
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"Christian McArdle" wrote in message ... But pubs do make a much larger margin on soft drinks than they do on alcoholic drinks. I think it is justifiable, though. You can't drink many pints of Coke in the same way you can with beer. I bet that statistically, a soft drinker will spend a lot longer in the pub for one drink that the average beer drinker. Rubbish. I can drink pint for pint Pepsi Max with a beer drinker. And I don't get drunk and smash the place up either. Therefore, soft drinks need to have a larger mark up to get a fairer share of the fixed costs. Its just profitering, nothing to do with increased costs. |
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Andy wrote:
I was in my local newsagent in London and saw he had a card of button cells behind the till which he was selling at £2.99 each. I recognised the card of cells as one which I can get from my local pound shop for £1. It contains about 16 cells. Considering that the pound shop makes a profit then it will already have raised the price from something like 50p. I can't say exactly what the mark up is here for the newsagent as he may get left with oddment batteries that he can't sell but he makes a markup of about £2.50 on 50p (500%) if he sold just one battery! His total markup is in the thousands of percent. Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? Tandy used to sell speaker cable at £2.99 which had a store cost of about 6p a metre which wasn't bad margin at all. -- Alex Piece by piece the penguins have taken my sanity www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk |
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dennis@home wrote:
"Christian McArdle" wrote in message ... But pubs do make a much larger margin on soft drinks than they do on alcoholic drinks. I think it is justifiable, though. You can't drink many pints of Coke in the same way you can with beer. I bet that statistically, a soft drinker will spend a lot longer in the pub for one drink that the average beer drinker. Rubbish. I can drink pint for pint Pepsi Max with a beer drinker. Same here. I find myself going to the loo just as often as well. It does annoy me to be charged more for coke than beer though. Perhaps if pubs sold some soft drinks at more reasonable prices they would get more people acting as designated drivers. -- Alex Piece by piece the penguins have taken my sanity www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk |
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"Madge O'Reene" wrote in message oups.com... Phil Anthropist: Yes, the water companies. They get their supplies FREE, waste at least a third of it, then rip us off for the rest. Phil Well, if you're being like that, any service industry could be said to do the same - they don't produce, just "do things". In the case of the water companies, they clean the water and deliver it to you on demand (by and large). You don't have to use them - you *could* collect and clean your own water. For that matter, by your logic, you could say that (at the very least) arable farmers "don't pay" for the produce they sell, although there are a damned load of hidden costs that are needed to make the product available to you. Farmers pay for the seed or plant. Most commercial varieties are owned by someone and you have to pay them for it. |
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"Andy McKenzie" wrote in message ... "Phil Anthropist" wrote in message ... "Andy" wrote: I was in my local newsagent in London and saw he had a card of button cells behind the till which he was selling at £2.99 each. I recognised the card of cells as one which I can get from my local pound shop for £1. It contains about 16 cells. Considering that the pound shop makes a profit then it will already have raised the price from something like 50p. I can't say exactly what the mark up is here for the newsagent as he may get left with oddment batteries that he can't sell but he makes a markup of about £2.50 on 50p (500%) if he sold just one battery! His total markup is in the thousands of percent. Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? Yes, the water companies. They get their supplies FREE, waste at least a third of it, then rip us off for the rest. Phil So stop paying them - you are welcome to hire a drilling rig, drill a borehole, install a pump and pump out the water you need. Building and operating your own sewage plant might be harder but you could probably set up a reed bed filtration scheme. Mmm. Nothing like a nice bit of seepage. Sprays and fertiliser . |
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It does annoy me to be charged more for coke than beer though. Perhaps if
pubs sold some soft drinks at more reasonable prices they would get more people acting as designated drivers. The idea that you have the right to go around killing people on a drink driving bender because Coke costs 2 quid a pop is ridiculous. It isn't the responsibility of the bar to ensure you don't drink drive. It is the responsibility of the bar to continue trading and making profits. People should take responsibility for their own actions. Christian. |
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:06:22 +0100, Andy wrote:
Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? Original manufacturers ink for an inkjet printer -- Peter Parry. http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/ |
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Andy wrote:
Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? Ever looked at the price of a USB lead in PC world? -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"Madge O'Reene" wrote in message ups.com... Mary Fisher: I saw the same sort of thing in a shop in Lincoln some time ago. Unbelievable! Mary Why is it unbelievable? What do you do for a living? Are the the LOWEST PAID person doing your job? In your company? In your town? In your country? In the world? Unbelievable! You're making assumptions. Here's a simple idea - if you think a shop is charging too much, don't buy from them. I didn't. I SAW it. |
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Christian McArdle wrote:
It does annoy me to be charged more for coke than beer though. Perhaps if pubs sold some soft drinks at more reasonable prices they would get more people acting as designated drivers. The idea that you have the right to go around killing people on a drink driving bender because Coke costs 2 quid a pop is ridiculous. Feel free to point out when I claimed that? I regularly drive to the pub and drink soft drinks , but I frequently hear other people in the pub making comments about how they aren't going to pay more for orange juice than lager and am sure that if soft drinks were a cheaper alternative many of them would be under the limit instead of over it. That doesn't mean I approve , but it certainly happens. And before anyone asks , yes I have reported people to the police when I know they are ****ed and planning to drive home (and I know what car they are driving) -- Alex Piece by piece the penguins have taken my sanity www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message ... Andy wrote: Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? Ever looked at the price of a USB lead in PC world? -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ ok cant be arsed to read them all but here you go garage i worked at (main dealer) used to buy bags of cable ties at £6 for a bag of 6000 ties they were booked out at £1 each (when issued to jobs) thats £6000 a bag therefore £5994 profit |
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High end tube amps. Or any audio in that bracket, for that matter.
Think $30k apiece. Tim -- Deep Fryer: a very philosophical monk. Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms "Andy" wrote in message ... I was in my local newsagent in London and saw he had a card of button cells behind the till which he was selling at £2.99 each. I recognised the card of cells as one which I can get from my local pound shop for £1. It contains about 16 cells. Considering that the pound shop makes a profit then it will already have raised the price from something like 50p. I can't say exactly what the mark up is here for the newsagent as he may get left with oddment batteries that he can't sell but he makes a markup of about £2.50 on 50p (500%) if he sold just one battery! His total markup is in the thousands of percent. Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? |
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"Andy" wrote in message ... I was in my local newsagent in London and saw he had a card of button cells behind the till which he was selling at £2.99 each. I recognised the card of cells as one which I can get from my local pound shop for £1. It contains about 16 cells. Considering that the pound shop makes a profit then it will already have raised the price from something like 50p. If it was, indeed the same product, it will have been bought from somewhere that specialises in bankrupt and surplus stock sales, so the selling price is no indication of the original trade sale price. However, pound shops also sell remanufactured button cells, often in packs that look a lot like manufacturers' original packs, which do not have the life of new cells. Colin Bignell |
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The message
from John Rumm contains these words: Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? Ever looked at the price of a USB lead in PC world? Though to be fair, they do actually work. The AB I bought from Poundland the other day didn't. But then so did the one I bought from the market for £1.50 which is about 1/10th of PCW's price. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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from "Mindwipe" jeffinleeds@nospam contains these words: ok cant be arsed to read them all but here you go garage i worked at (main dealer) used to buy bags of cable ties at £6 for a bag of 6000 ties they were booked out at £1 each (when issued to jobs) thats £6000 a bag therefore £5994 profit Bet they didn't miss the chance to charge half an hour's labour to fit it, either. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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Andy wrote:
I was in my local newsagent in London and saw he had a card of button cells behind the till which he was selling at £2.99 each. I recognised the card of cells as one which I can get from my local pound shop for £1. It contains about 16 cells. Considering that the pound shop makes a profit then it will already have raised the price from something like 50p. I can't say exactly what the mark up is here for the newsagent as he may get left with oddment batteries that he can't sell but he makes a markup of about £2.50 on 50p (500%) if he sold just one battery! His total markup is in the thousands of percent. Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? packs of screws in Robert Dyas. I forget exactly, it was £1 or £1.50 for 4 6 or 8 screws. Either way, kinda high. NT |
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"Madge O'Reene" wrote in message ups.com... Soft drinks in pubs and night clubs - they buy the stuff in bulk as concentrate and mix it with carbonated water on site. A £2.50 glass is 250ml and typically costs around 5p. Just as with the shop, you're paying for the convenience. yikes what pubs charge £2.50 for a coke?? They wouldn't dare charge that up 'ere int' north.... In fact I don't even pay that for a pint :-) |
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"Guy King" wrote in message ... The message from John Rumm contains these words: Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? Ever looked at the price of a USB lead in PC world? Though to be fair, they do actually work. they effin should do for £15! :-) |
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Peter Parry wrote:
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:06:22 +0100, Andy wrote: Has anyone seen a bigger markup than that? Original manufacturers ink for an inkjet printer At the store level there isn't that much profit. A ten quid cartridge used to be about a fiver store cost. The manufacturers make a pretty large profit on making them for a few pence and selling them to the retailers. -- Alex Piece by piece the penguins have taken my sanity www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk |
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"nightjar
If it was, indeed the same product, it will have been bought from somewhere that specialises in bankrupt and surplus stock sales, so the selling price is no indication of the original trade sale price. However, pound shops also sell remanufactured button cells, often in packs that look a lot like manufacturers' original packs, which do not have the life of new cells. Colin Bignell Where in hell would you find anyone who is stupid enough to remanufacture lithium cells? They are cheap, made on automated machines and likely untouched by human hands until installed into your toys. Short life is caused by one of two things. They have been in stock for too long, or they were crap when they were made in some Chinese or third world factory. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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