"Owain" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:
Since the first is sitting tight at all times except when I lift her to
make her eat and drink (and the other is also out) I want to know how
these extra eggs are getting under the broody. And when is the second
bantie laying - and how is she getting her egg under the bossy broodie?

Obviously your banties have a domme/sub lesbian egg-sharing collective.

LOL!

You can expect the religious fundies with placards at your door any moment
now.

They daren't come here. I see them walking past the gate, I think there must
be a secret sign somewhere, telling each other to Avoid the Fishers.

Understandable when you think how they've been kept talking for hours in the
past ...

Mary

Owain

Mary Fisher wrote:
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Mary Fisher wrote:
You'll have to set up a video camera, to find out. g
That's an idea.
The coop (an Eglu) is small and unlit, I suspect it must be happening at
night. If I undertake this exercise again I'll bear that in mind, she can
sit somewhere else.
The small and cheap CCTV cameras have little built-in infra-red lights, so
work in darkness and won't disturb the hens' sleep.

Oh - I didn't know that. I was thinking of my webcam.

Mary


Your webcam probably has an infra red filter on its front. Remove that
and attach some infra red LEDs on the outside to illuminate the hen.

Beware. The hen may demand performing rights and go on strike...
:-)

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"Adrian C" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:
"Owain" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:
You'll have to set up a video camera, to find out. g
That's an idea.
The coop (an Eglu) is small and unlit, I suspect it must be happening
at night. If I undertake this exercise again I'll bear that in mind,
she can sit somewhere else.
The small and cheap CCTV cameras have little built-in infra-red lights,
so work in darkness and won't disturb the hens' sleep.

Oh - I didn't know that. I was thinking of my webcam.

Mary
Your webcam probably has an infra red filter on its front.

eh? How would I know? It was very cheap.

Remove that and attach some infra red LEDs on the outside to illuminate
the hen.

Beware. The hen may demand performing rights and go on strike...
:-)

She'd already gone on egg-laying strike, which is why I slipped someone
else's eggs under her. It's just for fun.

Mary

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Mary Fisher wrote:
"Adrian C" wrote
Mary
Your webcam probably has an infra red filter on its front.

eh? How would I know? It was very cheap.

List and info here.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/geoff.johnson2/IR/

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Mary Fisher wrote:
"Adrian C" wrote
Mary
Your webcam probably has an infra red filter on its front.

eh? How would I know? It was very cheap.

List and info here.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/geoff.johnson2/IR/

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Adrian C

Adrian, that's a fascinating site, thank you. I'm tempted to have a go. It
would be worth buying a new camera just for the experience.

The suggestion was to have a webcam inside the coop to see what's going on
in there. The coop is outside on the ground, this pc is on the first floor
but at the same side of the house as the coop. How do I connect the two? I
suppose I mean, what kind of connecting wire/cable (?) do I use and would it
work over such a long length (about 30 -35 feet)?

Mary
Sorry - about ten metres.

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Mary Fisher wrote:

"Adrian C" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:
"Adrian C" wrote
Mary
Your webcam probably has an infra red filter on its front.

eh? How would I know? It was very cheap.

List and info here.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/geoff.johnson2/IR/

--
Adrian C

Adrian, that's a fascinating site, thank you. I'm tempted to have a
go. It would be worth buying a new camera just for the experience.

The suggestion was to have a webcam inside the coop to see what's
going on in there. The coop is outside on the ground, this pc is on
the first floor but at the same side of the house as the coop. How do
I connect the two? I suppose I mean, what kind of connecting
wire/cable (?) do I use and would it work over such a long length
(about 30 -35 feet)?
Mary
Sorry - about ten metres.

If you don't mind spending 100 quid, Maplins have a camera in their sale
which would do the job. It has an array of infra-red LEDs for use in the
dark - and produces a signal which you can see on a TV or record on a VCR.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...&criteria=SALE

But you'll have to hurry - today is the last day of the sale!

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"Roger Mills" wrote in message
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Mary Fisher wrote:

"Adrian C" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:
"Adrian C" wrote
Mary
Your webcam probably has an infra red filter on its front.

eh? How would I know? It was very cheap.

List and info here.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/geoff.johnson2/IR/

--
Adrian C

Adrian, that's a fascinating site, thank you. I'm tempted to have a
go. It would be worth buying a new camera just for the experience.

The suggestion was to have a webcam inside the coop to see what's
going on in there. The coop is outside on the ground, this pc is on
the first floor but at the same side of the house as the coop. How do
I connect the two? I suppose I mean, what kind of connecting
wire/cable (?) do I use and would it work over such a long length
(about 30 -35 feet)?
Mary
Sorry - about ten metres.

If you don't mind spending 100 quid,

I DO!

Maplins have a camera in their sale which would do the job. It has an
array of infra-red LEDs for use in the dark - and produces a signal which
you can see on a TV or record on a VCR.

No good for me then :-)

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...&criteria=SALE

But you'll have to hurry - today is the last day of the sale!

Thanks, but I like the d-i-y process described earlier.

Mary

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Mary Fisher wrote:


Maplins have a camera in their sale which would do the job. It has an
array of infra-red LEDs for use in the dark - and produces a signal
which you can see on a TV or record on a VCR.

No good for me then :-)


Sorry, I forgot!

[I was thinking, in particular, that it comes with a long cable - so that
you can look at/record it in the house. With a USB-based web-cam, you'll
need a computer in the coop!]
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Roger Mills wrote:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Mary Fisher wrote:


Maplins have a camera in their sale which would do the job. It has an
array of infra-red LEDs for use in the dark - and produces a signal
which you can see on a TV or record on a VCR.

No good for me then :-)


Sorry, I forgot!

[I was thinking, in particular, that it comes with a long cable - so that
you can look at/record it in the house. With a USB-based web-cam, you'll
need a computer in the coop!]

Only if you don't use a few extension cables to hook it up.

"Rob Morley" wrote in message

[I was thinking, in particular, that it comes with a long cable - so that
you can look at/record it in the house. With a USB-based web-cam, you'll
need a computer in the coop!]

Only if you don't use a few extension cables to hook it up.

Tell me more. Please.

Mary

Mary Fisher wrote:
"Roger Mills" wrote:
[I was thinking, in particular, that it comes with a long cable - so that
you can look at/record it in the house. With a USB-based web-cam, you'll
need a computer in the coop!]

Can't I get a long lead ... sorry, cable?

Mary

About 15ft is the maximun length for a USB cable. To do more than that
(upto 150ft) you could use Cat-5 network cable and the following £47
gizmo mentioned here recently.
http://misco.co.uk/productinformation/~90459~MB~/index.htm

Though a secondhand 'dead battery' laptop with a USB port can probably
be aquired for less, and maybe placed closer....

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Thanks, but I like the d-i-y process described earlier.

It also works with digital stills cameras, too. And the resolution's
better. The least satisfactory bit of the whole thing is the IR-pass
filter. A bit of old film makes the image rather fuzzy even when it's
close to the sensor. You can improve things a big by making sure the
emulsion side is next to the CCD and best of all touching it.
Even better is a bit of proper IR filter.

Oh, and this bloke's got a different take on the whole subject.
http://www.amasci.com/amateur/irgoggl.html

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"Adrian C" wrote in message
...
Mary Fisher wrote:
"Roger Mills" wrote:
[I was thinking, in particular, that it comes with a long cable - so
that you can look at/record it in the house. With a USB-based web-cam,
you'll need a computer in the coop!]

Can't I get a long lead ... sorry, cable?

Mary

About 15ft is the maximun length for a USB cable. To do more than that
(upto 150ft) you could use Cat-5 network cable and the following £47 gizmo
mentioned here recently.
http://misco.co.uk/productinformation/~90459~MB~/index.htm

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Though a secondhand 'dead battery' laptop with a USB port can probably be
aquired for less, and maybe placed closer....

I think I'll just wonder :-)

But thanks anyway,

Mary

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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words:

Thanks, but I like the d-i-y process described earlier.

It also works with digital stills cameras, too. And the resolution's
better. The least satisfactory bit of the whole thing is the IR-pass
filter. A bit of old film makes the image rather fuzzy even when it's
close to the sensor. You can improve things a big by making sure the
emulsion side is next to the CCD and best of all touching it.
Even better is a bit of proper IR filter.

Hmm.

How do I get Zen (the Zebra hen) or Gen (the ginger hen) to press the
shutter release?

Oh, and this bloke's got a different take on the whole subject.
http://www.amasci.com/amateur/irgoggl.html

Gosh - but doesn't he!

Very Seattle.

I don't think Spouse would approve of my using his welding goggles. He
doesn't mind for eclipses but hens is different, innit.

Mary

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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words:

How do I get Zen (the Zebra hen) or Gen (the ginger hen) to press the
shutter release?

Sadly you can't get YOPS trainees any more, so it'll have to be a tripwire.

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"Owain" wrote in message
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Mary Fisher wrote:
"Rob Morley" wrote in message
[I was thinking, in particular, that it comes with a long cable - so
that
you can look at/record it in the house. With a USB-based web-cam, you'll
need a computer in the coop!]
Only if you don't use a few extension cables to hook it up.
Tell me more. Please.

Ho-fficially the max length for USB cable is 5m. Given luck and a
following wind (and the fact that a webcam is fairly undemanding) you can
probably use an extension cable or two, which have a little electronic
"repeater" gizmo (powered by the voltage on the USB wires).

Right, thanks. I'll think about it.

Maplin.co.uk (they have a shop at Regent St LS2)

I know - we use it quite a lot. Just down the road from us.

In fact they send me their e-newsletter at boringly frequent intervals. It's
always full of bargains ... if only I wanted the things they're offering.
Still, you never know.

Mary

"Guy King" wrote in message
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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words:

How do I get Zen (the Zebra hen) or Gen (the ginger hen) to press the
shutter release?

Sadly you can't get YOPS trainees any more, so it'll have to be a
tripwire.

Ah, YOPS, I was thinking about that the other day and wondering what had
happened to it. Another scheme no doubt.

I'm wondering about radio control.

Mary

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from "Mary Fisher" contains these words:

Thanks, but I like the d-i-y process described earlier.

It also works with digital stills cameras, too. And the resolution's
better. The least satisfactory bit of the whole thing is the IR-pass
filter. A bit of old film makes the image rather fuzzy even when it's
close to the sensor. You can improve things a big by making sure the
emulsion side is next to the CCD and best of all touching it.
Even better is a bit of proper IR filter.

Hmm.

How do I get Zen (the Zebra hen) or Gen (the ginger hen) to press the
shutter release?

Oh, and this bloke's got a different take on the whole subject.
http://www.amasci.com/amateur/irgoggl.html

Gosh - but doesn't he!

Very Seattle.

I don't think Spouse would approve of my using his welding goggles. He
doesn't mind for eclipses but hens is different, innit.

Mary

Call Bill Oddie - he'll probably get a TV series out of it.

In article
Owain wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote:
"Rob Morley" wrote in message
[I was thinking, in particular, that it comes with a long cable - so that
you can look at/record it in the house. With a USB-based web-cam, you'll
need a computer in the coop!]
Only if you don't use a few extension cables to hook it up.
Tell me more. Please.

Ho-fficially the max length for USB cable is 5m. Given luck and a
following wind (and the fact that a webcam is fairly undemanding) you
can probably use an extension cable or two, which have a little
electronic "repeater" gizmo (powered by the voltage on the USB wires).

Maplin.co.uk (they have a shop at Regent St LS2) item UY13P £14.99

Active cables are actually single-port hubs, so it's within spec to
daisy-chain 4 of them together (with a passive 5m cable at the end
giving a total length of 25m).

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?...4&sbadd=106114

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=9711220844

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=9712033860

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In article
Owain wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote:
"Rob Morley" wrote in message
[I was thinking, in particular, that it comes with a long cable - so
that
you can look at/record it in the house. With a USB-based web-cam,
you'll
need a computer in the coop!]
Only if you don't use a few extension cables to hook it up.
Tell me more. Please.

Ho-fficially the max length for USB cable is 5m. Given luck and a
following wind (and the fact that a webcam is fairly undemanding) you
can probably use an extension cable or two, which have a little
electronic "repeater" gizmo (powered by the voltage on the USB wires).

Maplin.co.uk (they have a shop at Regent St LS2) item UY13P £14.99

Active cables are actually single-port hubs, so it's within spec to
daisy-chain 4 of them together (with a passive 5m cable at the end
giving a total length of 25m).

I wish I knew what you were talking about :-(

But thanks for trying, and it might have been useful to someone else.

Mary

"Bob Martin" wrote in message
news ....


I don't think Spouse would approve of my using his welding goggles. He
doesn't mind for eclipses but hens is different, innit.

Mary

Call Bill Oddie - he'll probably get a TV series out of it.

By the time tv got round to it it would all be over and done with. The
chicks will be out in less than a fortnight!

If there are any, with the daily (or nightly) interruptions.

Mary

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Mary Fisher wrote:

"Rob Morley" wrote in message
t...
In article
Owain wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote:
"Rob Morley" wrote in message
[I was thinking, in particular, that it comes with a long cable - so
that
you can look at/record it in the house. With a USB-based web-cam,
you'll
need a computer in the coop!]
Only if you don't use a few extension cables to hook it up.
Tell me more. Please.

Ho-fficially the max length for USB cable is 5m. Given luck and a
following wind (and the fact that a webcam is fairly undemanding) you
can probably use an extension cable or two, which have a little
electronic "repeater" gizmo (powered by the voltage on the USB wires).

Maplin.co.uk (they have a shop at Regent St LS2) item UY13P £14.99

Active cables are actually single-port hubs, so it's within spec to
daisy-chain 4 of them together (with a passive 5m cable at the end
giving a total length of 25m).

I wish I knew what you were talking about :-(

The wires with the lumpy bit on the end will plug together to make a
longer wire with lumpy bits in the middle as long as you don't do it
lots.

"Rob Morley" wrote in message
t...
In article
Mary Fisher wrote:

"Rob Morley" wrote in message
t...
In article
Owain wrote:
Mary Fisher wrote:
"Rob Morley" wrote in message
[I was thinking, in particular, that it comes with a long cable - so
that
you can look at/record it in the house. With a USB-based web-cam,
you'll
need a computer in the coop!]
Only if you don't use a few extension cables to hook it up.
Tell me more. Please.

Ho-fficially the max length for USB cable is 5m. Given luck and a
following wind (and the fact that a webcam is fairly undemanding) you
can probably use an extension cable or two, which have a little
electronic "repeater" gizmo (powered by the voltage on the USB wires).

Maplin.co.uk (they have a shop at Regent St LS2) item UY13P £14.99

Active cables are actually single-port hubs, so it's within spec to
daisy-chain 4 of them together (with a passive 5m cable at the end
giving a total length of 25m).

I wish I knew what you were talking about :-(

The wires with the lumpy bit on the end will plug together to make a
longer wire with lumpy bits in the middle as long as you don't do it
lots.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

That makes much more sense :-)

Mary

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Mary Fisher"
saying something like:

The suggestion was to have a webcam inside the coop to see what's going on
in there. The coop is outside on the ground, this pc is on the first floor
but at the same side of the house as the coop. How do I connect the two? I
suppose I mean, what kind of connecting wire/cable (?) do I use and would it
work over such a long length (about 30 -35 feet)?

I got one of these...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-WIRELESS-C...c mdZViewItem

( http://tinyurl.com/qhlek )

Great little camera, and you don't even need the video capture card [1]
to use it - all you need for a single camera is an old TV card and use
the composite input with a trial copy of Active WebCam or similar.

[1] The capture card was actually ok, but the supplied software was a
total pain in the arse.
--

Dave

"Owain" wrote in message
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Guy King wrote:
How do I get Zen (the Zebra hen) or Gen (the ginger hen) to press the
shutter release?
Sadly you can't get YOPS trainees any more,

Even if you could, it would still be easier to train the hen.

LOL!

so it'll have to be a tripwire.

det cord?

?



Owain

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The least satisfactory bit of the whole thing is the IR-pass
filter. A bit of old film makes the image rather fuzzy even when it's
close to the sensor.

I now have some of the proper filter material - so it's time to nobble
an old webcam, I think.

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"Guy King" wrote in message
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The message
from Guy King contains these words:

The least satisfactory bit of the whole thing is the IR-pass
filter. A bit of old film makes the image rather fuzzy even when it's
close to the sensor.

I now have some of the proper filter material - so it's time to nobble
an old webcam, I think.

You've got a broody too?

The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words:

det cord?

?

Explosive detonating cord.

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Guy King wrote:
The message "Mary Fisher" contains these words:
det cord?
?

Explosive detonating cord.

It's detonating fuse. A well-known brand is "Cordtex".

"Guy King" wrote in message
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The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words:

det cord?

?

Explosive detonating cord.

Oh.

But since you've snipped it's out of context and my short term memory isn't
what it was - if I remember corectly.

It will come to you :-)

Mary

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I now have some of the proper filter material - so it's time to nobble
an old webcam, I think.

You've got a broody too?

Nah, just two kids to entertain.

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"Guy King" wrote in message
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The message
from "Mary Fisher" contains these words:

I now have some of the proper filter material - so it's time to nobble
an old webcam, I think.

You've got a broody too?

Nah, just two kids to entertain.

Ah! So YOU'RE the broody :-)

I'm happy to have all that behind me. It was good at the time - most of the
time - but you can have too much of a good thing or, as someone else said,
moderation in all things.

The trouble with kids is that it gets worse before it gets better :-)

Mary

The suggestion was to have a webcam inside the coop to see what's going on
in there. The coop is outside on the ground, this pc is on the first floor
but at the same side of the house as the coop. How do I connect the two? I
suppose I mean, what kind of connecting wire/cable (?) do I use and would it
work over such a long length (about 30 -35 feet)?

Webcams are usually USB. I've used
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSea...=CS11725&N=411
before for a 30m run on a phillips toucam - but you need to get a
network patch cable as well (e.g. for 10m
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSea...=CS02649&N=411 )

Chris
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Owain wrote:
Ho-fficially the max length for USB cable is 5m. Given luck and a
following wind (and the fact that a webcam is fairly undemanding) you
can probably use an extension cable or two, which have a little
electronic "repeater" gizmo (powered by the voltage on the USB wires).

Maplin.co.uk (they have a shop at Regent St LS2) item UY13P £14.99

Owain
An "Active" Extension as you describe fits within the 5m limit - it's 5m
per segment (a hun will also act as a repeater). You can daisy chain up
to 6 of them.

I've tried usomg passive extensions - they become flaky at a total
length of less than 6m (it's a timing issue).

Chris



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. uk...
Owain wrote:
Ho-fficially the max length for USB cable is 5m. Given luck and a
following wind (and the fact that a webcam is fairly undemanding) you can
probably use an extension cable or two, which have a little electronic
"repeater" gizmo (powered by the voltage on the USB wires).

Maplin.co.uk (they have a shop at Regent St LS2) item UY13P £14.99

Owain
An "Active" Extension as you describe fits within the 5m limit - it's 5m
per segment (a hun will also act as a repeater). You can daisy chain up
to 6 of them.

I've tried usomg passive extensions - they become flaky at a total length
of less than 6m (it's a timing issue).

Chris

:-(

I think I'll stick to just peeking in the coop every now and again.

Mary



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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 21:28:33 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
had this to say:


I think I'll stick to just peeking in the coop every now and again.

I read that as :- "I'll stick to just peeing in the Co-op..."

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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 21:28:33 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
had this to say:


I think I'll stick to just peeking in the coop every now and again.

I read that as :- "I'll stick to just peeing in the Co-op..."

Oh, my drawers will never dry!

Mary

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Frank Erskine wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 21:28:33 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
had this to say:

I think I'll stick to just peeking in the coop every now and again.

I read that as :- "I'll stick to just peeing in the Co-op..."

I KNEW that was Mary in 'Little Britain' ;-)

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Frank Erskine wrote:
Or when you've designed and etched a printed circuit board with the IC
pins the wrong way round, so that you have to bend all the pins the
other way up.

I always put a name on the original art work so it's obvious if you've
forgotten to flip at any stage in the process.

Could you not have fitted the IC on the track side?

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Or when you carefully cut a tile to fix around an awkward part of the
sink discover you've cut it from the wrong side.

Easily done. And it's always the last one you have. ;-(

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