I have a friend who has just bought a semi-detached seventies built
property. The house was constructed to the nowadays pretty standard
timber frame method.

Since moving in, he can't help noticing the noise from the neighbours
although not really enough to complain. After making enquiries, it
seems that this particular generation of houses are notorious for poor
noise insulation so much so that, later on, regulations were tightened
up to improve things.

This may explain why his previous terraced house of modern design
didn't seem to have anything like the same problem.

He says his neighbours aren't that noisy it's just that he can here
them closing doors or their young child running up and down the living
room.

He also finds that he is continually turning down the volume on his own
television for fear of it being heard next door.

He's really finding it hard to get used to this and was wondering if
there is any sort of insulation improvement possible, similar to say
cavity wall insulation.

Any help?

allan tracy wrote:

He also finds that he is continually turning down the volume on his own
television for fear of it being heard next door.

If he gets on well with them ask if they'd help him out by letting him
turn his TV up & up and then bang on the wall when they start to here it
so he can gauge just how high he can have it.

Scott

On 26 Jan 2006 12:51:45 -0800, "allan tracy"
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I have a friend who has just bought a semi-detached seventies built
property. The house was constructed to the nowadays pretty standard
timber frame method.
Is this the type of property which has timber frame /plasterboard as a
party well between the properties also?



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I have a friend who has just bought a semi-detached seventies built
property. The house was constructed to the nowadays pretty standard
timber frame method.
Is this the type of property which has timber frame /plasterboard as a
party well between the properties also?


No, it appears to be some sort of brick possibly breeze block.

He thinks it's only single thicknees though as it's visible in his loft.

Scott M wrote:
allan tracy wrote:

He also finds that he is continually turning down the volume on his own
television for fear of it being heard next door.

If he gets on well with them ask if they'd help him out by letting him
turn his TV up & up and then bang on the wall when they start to here it
so he can gauge just how high he can have it.

Can anyone tell me how much higher or louder the volume is for
commercials, these days? I suppose there is no way to find out is there
without buying a decimeter?

I know by law there is not supposed to be any difference but late at
night (after 11 say) there really is quite a noticeable difference. Or
is it there all day long and it's just that I am not so worried about
waking up my neighbours?

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Weatherlawyer wrote:


Can anyone tell me how much higher or louder the volume is for
commercials, these days? I suppose there is no way to find out is
there without buying a decimeter?

Buying 10 centimetres of *what*? [
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/decimeter ]
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allan tracy wrote:

I have a friend who has just bought a semi-detached seventies built
property. The house was constructed to the nowadays pretty standard
timber frame method.
Is this the type of property which has timber frame /plasterboard as a
party well between the properties also?


No, it appears to be some sort of brick possibly breeze block.

He thinks it's only single thicknees though as it's visible in his loft.

finally you give us the info necessary to answer the question. The
solution is probably a 2nd block skin not connected to the first,
preferably with loose fibre fill between the 2. Lesser but still useful
levels of attenuation can be gained with a metal frame stud wall, which
takes less space and materials, instead of the 2nd block skin.

However, one must ask what is the path of most sound transmission? It
might be holes below the floor rather than through the block wall.

There are also ways to stiffen suspended wood floors, such as fitting
noggins or converting to stressed box construction, which is fairly
easy to do.


NT

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Weatherlawyer wrote:
Can anyone tell me how much higher or louder the volume is for
commercials, these days? I suppose there is no way to find out is there
without buying a decimeter?

There is currently no device that can measure loudness accurately. Plenty
in development as it's the holy grail, and whoever makes the first one to
be universally accepted will make a killing.

At the moment, a PPM (peak programme meter) is the standard UK device - it
dates back to before WW2. This, as implied, reads the peak value of any
audio signal in dB. It's original use was to prevent over modulation of
transmitters. It is marked 1-7.

Line up tone - the 1000 or 440 Hz tone you might remember from test card
days reads 4 on a PPM. Maximum level allowed is 6, 8dB above this. On ITV
1, programmes may peak to 6, but commercials only to 5 - so actually 4dB
less.

Now where a programme is loud and brash - say something like 'millionaire'
the commercials won't be any louder subjectively. If, however, it's a
gentle drama with a poignant end they'll come crashing in. To stop this
would require a skilled human to balance the levels in and out of each and
every commercial break and would be horrendously expensive across all the
channels that show ads.

At the moment, TV sound isn't all squashed up to peak like most pop radio
stations, but this would be the result if you really want absolutely
everything at the same level.

FWIW, some modern TV sets include a compressor to try and do just this.
Dunno how successful they are though - I'd expect to hear it in operation
and be intrusive.

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FWIW, some modern TV sets include a compressor to try and do just this.
Dunno how successful they are though - I'd expect to hear it in operation
and be intrusive.

Yup, my new Sony flatpanel does this. Usually it's very effective too, but
occasionally gets caught out and in the middle of 'Millionaire' as it
happens too! When the last contestant has left the platform, and the music
strikes up for the next 'Fastest Finger First' round, the telly gets fooled
into thinking the ads have just started and mutes the sound down!! LOL No
bad thing perhaps. ;-)

N.