My Black and Decker, which has served me well for many years despite
much abuse, has finally fallen apart.

From searching through uk.d-i-y it looks like I should really replace
it with an SDS drill and Bosch and Makita, plus a couple of less well
known brands, are the ones to go for.

Screwfix have a Bosch GBH2-20SRE at £79.99 (less 3% if I go through
Quidco). Has anyone any experience of this drill? Or is there another
make/model currently available which I should look at?

I should add that £80 is pretty much as much as I would want to pay.

TIA.

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:47:06 +0000, F wrote:

Or is there another
make/model currently available which I should look at?

How often do you use it? Once an hour, day, week, month, year?

If towards the right, get the cheapest SDS you can get, preferably
with a few bits thrown in.

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F wrote:

Screwfix have a Bosch GBH2-20SRE at £79.99 (less 3% if I go through
Quidco). Has anyone any experience of this drill? Or is there another
make/model currently available which I should look at?

Yup that looks like a good choice... they also have:

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...homeR ef=home

Same money a bit more power but shorter warrenty.


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On 19/01/2006 11:54 Nigel Molesworth wrote:

How often do you use it? Once an hour, day, week, month, year?

If towards the right, get the cheapest SDS you can get, preferably
with a few bits thrown in.

As far towards the right as I can get away with!

However, my father taught me the value of getting decent tools so I
don't mind buying 'better' than I 'need'.

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On 19/01/2006 12:12 John Rumm wrote:

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...homeR ef=home


Same money a bit more power but shorter warrenty.

Just found a Makita HR2020 at
http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/scripts/...ammer%20Drills
Again, more power and higher speed but more ££ - £91.28 inc delivery.
Free bits though! Screwfix have it at £99.99 inc 'free' delivery.

Lawson-HIS have a 'replacement' for the Bosch GBH2-20SRE but I can't see
what the difference is for the additional £9.

Decisions, decisions!

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F wrote:
On 19/01/2006 11:54 Nigel Molesworth wrote:

How often do you use it? Once an hour, day, week, month, year?

If towards the right, get the cheapest SDS you can get, preferably
with a few bits thrown in.


As far towards the right as I can get away with!

However, my father taught me the value of getting decent tools so I
don't mind buying 'better' than I 'need'.


So, so spot on!

As for which one, you really won't go far wrong in that range. The only
downside to the GBH2-20SRE is it has no roto-stop, so you can't use it
for chiseling. This is a very useful feature. As such, the D25003K is a
better buy at that price.


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On 19/01/2006 12:29 Grunff wrote:

As for which one, you really won't go far wrong in that range. The only
downside to the GBH2-20SRE is it has no roto-stop, so you can't use it
for chiseling. This is a very useful feature.

I wondered about that - Screwfix are really very mean with their
descriptions.

However, I managed to find 'The new impact mechanism delivers faster
drilling progress. Other advantages include : drilling diameter in
concrete 24 mm, rotation stop for chiselling, forward/reverse rotation,
electronic control, safety clutch. Sliming design for easier working' on
http://diytools.com/store/detail.asp?productid=62568

Is the reference to rotation stop what you meant?

As such, the D25003K is a better buy at that price.

Does the above change this?

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F wrote:

However, I managed to find 'The new impact mechanism delivers faster
drilling progress. Other advantages include : drilling diameter in
concrete 24 mm, rotation stop for chiselling, forward/reverse rotation,
electronic control, safety clutch. Sliming design for easier working' on
http://diytools.com/store/detail.asp?productid=62568

Is the reference to rotation stop what you meant?

Yes, it is. Interesting. Looking at the pdf manual on the screwfix site,
it appears it does have roto-stop.



As such, the D25003K is a better buy at that price.


Does the above change this?

Well, I have the DeWalt (actually, its immediate predecessor, the
DW566), and am very happy with it. It's done a lot of hard work, and is
still going strong. Would I buy another one? Definitely. Would you be
unhappy with the Bosch? I doubt it - I'm pretty happy with all my blue
Bosch tools.



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F wrote:

Just found a Makita HR2020 at
http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/scripts/...ammer%20Drills
Again, more power and higher speed but more ££ - £91.28 inc delivery.
Free bits though! Screwfix have it at £99.99 inc 'free' delivery.

Carefull... that makita does not have roto stop, so you can't use it in
chisel mode which to my mind loses one of the big benefits of SDS drills.

If you want a Makita, the model to go for is probbably the HR2450 (very
well pleased with my one) - but that is typically a little bit more money.

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On 19/01/2006 13:03 John Rumm wrote:

Carefull... that makita does not have roto stop

Thanks - missed that!

If you want a Makita, the model to go for is probbably the HR2450

I'm new to this so I don't know if I want a Makita: although I'm aware,
somehow, that it's a decent make...

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F wrote:

I'm new to this so I don't know if I want a Makita: although I'm aware,
somehow, that it's a decent make...

Yup, and that model in particular is pretty decent. A bit more power
than many examples in the class which can be useful for turning big
stuff like core bits. The speed controller also has a great deal of
finesse - so you can drill or chisel very gently if required. Also when
you engage rotation stop you can lock off the chisel bit at any rotation
angle which is handy since you can place it where is is most comfortable
for the you rather than the drill.

Background info on SDS drills he

http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/powertools/sds.htm

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On 19/01/2006 20:10 John Rumm wrote:

Background info on SDS drills he

http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/powertools/sds.htm

Thanks, had a look earlier and it was useful.

I've now got the DeWalt D25003K (which you pointed me to) on its way
from Screwfix. Ordered at 5:40 for delivery tomorrow.

Pity PlumbWorld can't get their act together in a similar manner. Triton
Aire shower ordered Tuesday, email on Wednesday to say ready for
delivery, email at 18:51 tonight to say:

'Unfortunately we have encountered a problem with your order.

Our quality control team noticed damage to the product when your order
was being packed.

On further inspection they decided that the goods were not in a suitable
condition to be sent out to you.

There are no replacements in stock, but we have placed an order with the
manufacturer to get one as soon as possible.

You will be emailed with a revised delivery date as soon as we have the
information from our supplier.'

Hmm...

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On 19/01/2006 20:10 John Rumm wrote:

Background info on SDS drills he

http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/powertools/sds.htm

Thanks, had a look earlier and it was useful.

I've now got the DeWalt D25003K (which you pointed me to) on its way
from Screwfix. Ordered at 5:40 for delivery tomorrow.

Pity PlumbWorld can't get their act together in a similar manner. Triton
Aire shower ordered Tuesday, email on Wednesday to say ready for
delivery, email at 18:51 tonight to say:

'Unfortunately we have encountered a problem with your order.

Our quality control team noticed damage to the product when your order
was being packed.

On further inspection they decided that the goods were not in a suitable
condition to be sent out to you.

There are no replacements in stock, but we have placed an order with the
manufacturer to get one as soon as possible.

You will be emailed with a revised delivery date as soon as we have the
information from our supplier.'

Hmm...

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John Rumm wrote:


If you want a Makita, the model to go for is probbably the HR2450 (very
well pleased with my one) - but that is typically a little bit more money.

Oddly enough, I'm just planning on getting one of those.

Who's doing the best deals on them at the moment ?

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:37:40 GMT, (Roly)
wrote:

John Rumm wrote:


If you want a Makita, the model to go for is probbably the HR2450 (very
well pleased with my one) - but that is typically a little bit more money.

Oddly enough, I'm just planning on getting one of those.

Who's doing the best deals on them at the moment ?


Seems to be Axminster Power Tool Centre at present - £89 inc. although
that's without a pack of SDS drills. Others like Lawson HIS and ITS
London are £20 or so more but with drills. Typically, the freebie
drills, router bits etc. that come with tools are not very good; so
I'd pick the lower price and buy the wanted drills (decent ones)
separately.



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John Rumm wrote:


If you want a Makita, the model to go for is probbably the HR2450 (very
well pleased with my one) - but that is typically a little bit more money.

Oddly enough, I'm just planning on getting one of those.

Who's doing the best deals on them at the moment ?

Dunno, but its a super bit of kit!.

well pleased with mine))

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tony sayer wrote:

HR2450
Axminster £89.50

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-M...rill-22335.htm
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