Hi
I intend to build a swimming pool.
30 feet x 10 feet. Partially above ground (2ft) and 3 to 4 ft below
I intend to use a liner.
I am going to use Solar Power to partially offset heating costs.
Also an insulated swim pool cover.
I've looked at panel type pools, concrete pools, etc.
No one seems too concerned about insulation as part of the design.

I was going to make one with concrete and blocks but had the following
thought.
Why not do away with the concrete.
Build walls and dig to depth, line the pool with something like Kingspan or
50 mm polystyrene panels ensuring all surfaces behind the insulation have no
hollows.
Add a liner then fill with water. ( I exclude such things as skimmers,
drainage for clarity)

Your thoughts please on possible major issues with this concept.

regards Hal

On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 14:16:44 +0000 (UTC), "Hal"
wrote:

I was going to make one with concrete and blocks but had the following
thought.
Why not do away with the concrete.

No experience here, but wouldn't you be worried about a garden mole
that found some material in its burrow that it was able to dig
through?

Obviously the poor old mole might drown (and be poisoned) in its
attempts to dig into your swimming pool. But you've still got a
half-empty swimming pool and a waterlogged garden to sort out.

Andrew

Do you need a handyman service? Check out our
web site at http://www.handymac.co.uk

Excuse lack of convention.
Hi Andrew
A valid point burrowing animals
I suppose it might have helped if I had given further info.
The pool will be inside.
We have no moles in the garden but mice and rats are around.
The rats bit is nothing to do with me lol
Perhaps I should line pool hole with a metal or concrete barrier.
regards Hal

"Andrew McKay" wrote in message
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On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 14:16:44 +0000 (UTC), "Hal"
wrote:

I was going to make one with concrete and blocks but had the following
thought.
Why not do away with the concrete.

No experience here, but wouldn't you be worried about a garden mole
that found some material in its burrow that it was able to dig
through?

Obviously the poor old mole might drown (and be poisoned) in its
attempts to dig into your swimming pool. But you've still got a
half-empty swimming pool and a waterlogged garden to sort out.

Andrew

Do you need a handyman service? Check out our
web site at http://www.handymac.co.uk

On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 18:50:53 +0000 (UTC), "Hal"
wrote:

We have no moles in the garden but mice and rats are around.
The rats bit is nothing to do with me lol

Don't you believe it!

About 6 months ago my wife heard something scurrying in the loft above
the bedroom. She got the pest guy from the local council out to take a
look. Sure enough, he found the footprints in the dust of a rat.

Ratty was apparently taking a look-see. Nothing up in our loft (apart
from the insulation that all new houses have), so it left and hasn't
bothered coming back.

After speaking with a neighbour it turns out that Ratty's are quite
common around these parts - and it's quite a new estate.

Apparently (according to the local pest control officer) the water
companies stopped polluting the drain systems with anti-vermin
measures not so long ago, and the rat population is significantly
increasing across the UK as a direct result.

Naturally that'll be because Joe Public demands that water companies
keep the water bills as low as possible, and keeping the rat
population at bay was an expense that could be afforded.

1666 here we come.....

Andrew

Do you need a handyman service? Check out our
web site at http://www.handymac.co.uk

Yes
We have a ratty
He (they) live under the workshop
We see them in the winter lol
regards

"Andrew McKay" wrote in message
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On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 18:50:53 +0000 (UTC), "Hal"
wrote:

We have no moles in the garden but mice and rats are around.
The rats bit is nothing to do with me lol

Don't you believe it!

About 6 months ago my wife heard something scurrying in the loft above
the bedroom. She got the pest guy from the local council out to take a
look. Sure enough, he found the footprints in the dust of a rat.

Ratty was apparently taking a look-see. Nothing up in our loft (apart
from the insulation that all new houses have), so it left and hasn't
bothered coming back.

After speaking with a neighbour it turns out that Ratty's are quite
common around these parts - and it's quite a new estate.

Apparently (according to the local pest control officer) the water
companies stopped polluting the drain systems with anti-vermin
measures not so long ago, and the rat population is significantly
increasing across the UK as a direct result.

Naturally that'll be because Joe Public demands that water companies
keep the water bills as low as possible, and keeping the rat
population at bay was an expense that could be afforded.

1666 here we come.....

Andrew

Do you need a handyman service? Check out our
web site at http://www.handymac.co.uk

In article , Hal
writes
Hi
I intend to build a swimming pool.
30 feet x 10 feet. Partially above ground (2ft) and 3 to 4 ft below
I intend to use a liner.
I am going to use Solar Power to partially offset heating costs.
Also an insulated swim pool cover.
I've looked at panel type pools, concrete pools, etc.
No one seems too concerned about insulation as part of the design.

I was going to make one with concrete and blocks but had the following
thought.
Why not do away with the concrete.
Build walls and dig to depth, line the pool with something like Kingspan or
50 mm polystyrene panels ensuring all surfaces behind the insulation have no
hollows.
Add a liner then fill with water. ( I exclude such things as skimmers,
drainage for clarity)

Your thoughts please on possible major issues with this concept.

Have you looked at using the polystyrene blocks that you fill with
concrete? perfect for a swimming pool, self insulating and come in
different thicknesses.
--
David

From the chaotic regions of the Cryptosphere, "Hal"
wrote on Sun, 6 Jul 2003 14:16:44 +0000 (UTC):

Why not do away with the concrete.
Build walls and dig to depth, line the pool with something like Kingspan or
50 mm polystyrene panels ensuring all surfaces behind the insulation have no
hollows.

If I understand you correctly: you intend to dig a hole, and not to
build any kind of retaining wall to hold the soil back? If so, the
"walls" would need to be battered back to the angle of repose of the
material you're digging into (possibly as shallow as 30°). Your walls
(above ground) and supporting structure would need to be founded below
the bottom of your pool to avoid surcharging the sides.
--
Hugo Nebula
"You know, I'd rather see this on TV,
Tones it down" - Laurie Anderson

Tx Hugo and David


"Hugo Nebula" Send-My-Spam-To: abuse@localhost@ wrote in message
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From the chaotic regions of the Cryptosphere, "Hal"
wrote on Sun, 6 Jul 2003 14:16:44 +0000 (UTC):

Why not do away with the concrete.
Build walls and dig to depth, line the pool with something like Kingspan
or
50 mm polystyrene panels ensuring all surfaces behind the insulation have
no
hollows.

If I understand you correctly: you intend to dig a hole, and not to
build any kind of retaining wall to hold the soil back? If so, the
"walls" would need to be battered back to the angle of repose of the
material you're digging into (possibly as shallow as 30°). Your walls
(above ground) and supporting structure would need to be founded below
the bottom of your pool to avoid surcharging the sides.
--
Hugo Nebula
"You know, I'd rather see this on TV,
Tones it down" - Laurie Anderson

Hal wrote:

Hi
I intend to build a swimming pool.
30 feet x 10 feet. Partially above ground (2ft) and 3 to 4 ft below
I intend to use a liner.
I am going to use Solar Power to partially offset heating costs.
Also an insulated swim pool cover.
I've looked at panel type pools, concrete pools, etc.
No one seems too concerned about insulation as part of the design.

I was going to make one with concrete and blocks but had the following
thought.
Why not do away with the concrete.
Build walls and dig to depth, line the pool with something like Kingspan
or 50 mm polystyrene panels ensuring all surfaces behind the insulation
have no hollows.
Add a liner then fill with water. ( I exclude such things as skimmers,
drainage for clarity)

Your thoughts please on possible major issues with this concept.


I've seen this done with fibreglass... Basically they dig a hole how you
want your pool to look, and blow resin with shart glass fibres in it on the
(dirt) walls. Voila! Instant pool... (OK They install the pipes and stuff
first).


regards Hal

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