Chris Bacon wrote:

All this stuff that's said about buying expensive tools "because you
can get spares/service" is nonsense when the spare/service costs the
same as a whole new tool.

Except we are talking about a budget tool here and not an "expensive" one.

If you don't fancy shelling out for another battery, why not have the
original pack recelled? You will in all probability get a very
substantial improvement in performance out of the tool into the bargain
since the reaplcement cells will of a reasonable quality.

See for example:

http://www.re-cell.co.uk/powertool.html


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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:30:47 +0000, Matt
wrote:

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:24:48 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
I think the [Aldi] drill is German.

I very much doubt it, it's probably made in China. However,
many Bosch, Makita, etc. tools are also Chinese in origin.

The current Aldi drill has a Johnson motor, which is top quality. This is a
decent drill, no doubt.

Go on then, amuse us by telling us all where this Johnson motor is
made.

Presumably it comes from his vibrator....



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"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:30:47 +0000, Matt
wrote:

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:24:48 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
I think the [Aldi] drill is German.

I very much doubt it, it's probably made in China. However,
many Bosch, Makita, etc. tools are also Chinese in origin.

The current Aldi drill has a Johnson motor, which is top quality. This is
a
decent drill, no doubt.

Go on then, amuse us by telling us all where this Johnson motor is
made.

Presumably it comes from his vibrator....

Matt, what voltage is your vibrator? Does it have a good guarantee, parts
back up, pleasure to use, branded name and an angle attachment?

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:35:56 GMT, "Jim Gregory"
wrote:

"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
...
The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
Jim Gregory wrote:
I had the forerunner of this rechargeable Bosch found at Argos. Very
good spec - 12V, keyless, reversible, varispeed at about £40 from
Great Mills over10 years ago. But when the accumulator failed several
years later, I was quoted £42 at several places for its replacement.
So I binned it.
You should have kept it and bought a new model of the same voltage and 1
month later taken it back with duff batty attached and asked them for a
replacement drill 'as the battery is not holding its charge'. ;-)

That would be very dishonest, though.

Just as dishonest, IMO, as universally quoting £42 for a consumable (not
ex-stock) that was once an integral part of a £40 deal. They lost a former
customer, and possibly that decision may influence other potential buyers
reading this....
Why are any spares and consumables so transparently exhorbitantly priced?
Jim
Jim



There are several aspects to this:

- For many generic store-labelled tools, spares are not available
anyway. They simply play the numbers game with the warranty,
expecting a certain return rate, and then after that the assumption is
that the customer junks the product when it breaks.

- There are certain manufacturers and tool types which have
proprietary consumables. One reason for that is that it is classical
razor blade marketing - the Scorpion saw is an example of that as was
the Rotozip in its early days. Another is that there is something
inherent in the functionality of the tool that is not generally
available - either because the tool/machine is specialist in nature or
because it is innovative and patented - examples are the Fein
Multimaster.

- One should also consider the context of the tool. If the objective
is to buy something at minimum cost that meets basic functionality
requirements (i.e. it's a 14.4v drill but that's all I care about)
then as long as it uses standard consumables then so what. On the
other hand, in the context of a quality tool, purchased with aspects
such as performance, ease of use, precision and servicability, then
the total cost of ownership should be taken into account. This
includes the cost of spares and consumables over the projected life of
the product. In that case, spares, which are relatively unlikely to
be needed anyway, typically do not cost close to the original purchase
price.


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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:17:10 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

This man, Lord Hall, is clearly a racialist. He sneers products made by
certain races. Appalling.

Pray tell; What is a "racialist"?

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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:17:10 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Matt" aka Lord Hall wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:24:48 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
I think the [Aldi] drill is German.

I very much doubt it, it's probably made in China. However,
many Bosch, Makita, etc. tools are also Chinese in origin.

The current Aldi drill has a Johnson motor,
which is top quality. This is a
decent drill, no doubt.

Go on then, amuse us by telling us
all where this Johnson motor is made.

This man, Lord Hall, is clearly a racialist. He sneers products made by
certain races. Appalling.

No, just enquiring if you can do more than just repeat the advertising
jargon.
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"Matt" Lord Hall wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:17:10 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

"Matt" aka Lord Hall wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:24:48 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
I think the [Aldi] drill is German.

I very much doubt it, it's probably made in China. However,
many Bosch, Makita, etc. tools are also Chinese in origin.

The current Aldi drill has a Johnson motor,
which is top quality. This is a
decent drill, no doubt.

Go on then, amuse us by telling us
all where this Johnson motor is made.

This man, Lord Hall, is clearly a racialist. He sneers products made by
certain races. Appalling.

No, just enquiring if you can do more than just repeat the advertising
jargon.

Lord Hall, do you mean the Johnson motor is not very good? Do you mean
there isn't a Johnson motor in that drill? How do you know all this? Tell
us all please.

"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)" wrote in message
. ..

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:17:10 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:

This man, Lord Hall, is clearly a racialist. He sneers products made by
certain races. Appalling.

Pray tell; What is a "racialist"?

A racist but with less class.

In article ,
Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics) wrote:
This man, Lord Hall, is clearly a racialist. He sneers products made
by certain races. Appalling.

Pray tell; What is a "racialist"?

Finishing order of the Tour De France?

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Doctor Drivel wrote:


Matt, what voltage is your vibrator? Does it have a good guarantee,
parts back up, pleasure to use, branded name and an angle attachment?

Oih! Dildo, where do you get the name 'Matt' from?


Dave

Dave wrote:

Doctor Drivel wrote:


Matt, what voltage is your vibrator? Does it have a good guarantee,
parts back up, pleasure to use, branded name and an angle attachment?


Oih! Dildo, where do you get the name 'Matt' from?

I think that Drivel has a big problem with names... lets face it he
can't seem to remember his own and needs to use multiple aliases for
posting so I guess he has equal trouble with everyone elses as well.

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"John Rumm" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:

Doctor Drivel wrote:


Matt, what voltage is your vibrator? Does it have a good guarantee,
parts back up, pleasure to use, branded name and an angle attachment?

Oih! Dildo, where do you get the name 'Matt' from?

I think that Drivel has a big problem with names... lets face it he can't
seem to remember his own and needs to use multiple aliases for posting

What would these be?

"Dave" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:


Matt, what voltage is your vibrator? Does it have a good guarantee,
parts back up, pleasure to use, branded name and an angle attachment?

Oih! Dildo, where do you get the name 'Matt' from?

My God! The whole place is flooded with personal pleasure implements. What
voltage is yours?

Doctor Drivel wrote:

I think that Drivel has a big problem with names... lets face it he
can't seem to remember his own and needs to use multiple aliases for
posting


What would these be?

I rest my case!

(ask your nurse)


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"John Rumm" aka Dave-n-Pat wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

I think that Drivel has a big problem with names... lets face it he
can't seem to remember his own and needs to use multiple aliases for
posting

What would these be?

I rest my case!

It is clear you are Dave-n-Pat.