Just had a carpet fitted in a house that I rent out. I couldn't be there
during the job and was surprised to find all the trimmings strewn on the
floor when I returned. I am not talking about the decent sized off-cuts
(which were left as well), but all the little scraps. I am wondering
whether this is standard practice, or whether the fitters wanted to
finish early and **** off down the pub because it's Friday. Advice/
comments welcome to help me decide whether to kick up a fuss and
withhold a small sum from the payment.

One other thing; is there a standard way of fixing carpets around stair
noses? Are they usually tacked in place, or held by a grip strip as per
the edges of a room?


Thanks in advance, Jim.

Jim Walsh wrote:
Just had a carpet fitted in a house that I rent out. I couldn't be
there during the job and was surprised to find all the trimmings
strewn on the floor when I returned. I am not talking about the
decent sized off-cuts (which were left as well), but all the little
scraps. I am wondering whether this is standard practice, or whether
the fitters wanted to finish early and **** off down the pub because
it's Friday. Advice/ comments welcome to help me decide whether to
kick up a fuss and withhold a small sum from the payment.


If they have done a good job? then forget about it.

One other thing; is there a standard way of fixing carpets around
stair noses? Are they usually tacked in place, or held by a grip
strip as per the edges of a room?


Normally its tacked, but untacked it makes hoovering a tad easier to clean
providing its taught.


Thanks in advance, Jim.





--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

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Jim Walsh wrote:
Just had a carpet fitted in a house that I rent out. I couldn't be
there during the job and was surprised to find all the trimmings
strewn on the floor when I returned. I am not talking about the
decent sized off-cuts (which were left as well), but all the little
scraps. I am wondering whether this is standard practice, or whether
the fitters wanted to finish early and **** off down the pub because
it's Friday. Advice/ comments welcome to help me decide whether to
kick up a fuss and withhold a small sum from the payment.


If they have done a good job? then forget about it.

One other thing; is there a standard way of fixing carpets around
stair noses? Are they usually tacked in place, or held by a grip
strip as per the edges of a room?


Normally its tacked, but untacked it makes hoovering a tad easier to clean
providing its taught.

Taught what?
:-)

Rob Morley wrote:
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says...
Jim Walsh wrote:
Just had a carpet fitted in a house that I rent out. I couldn't be
there during the job and was surprised to find all the trimmings
strewn on the floor when I returned. I am not talking about the
decent sized off-cuts (which were left as well), but all the little
scraps. I am wondering whether this is standard practice, or whether
the fitters wanted to finish early and **** off down the pub because
it's Friday. Advice/ comments welcome to help me decide whether to
kick up a fuss and withhold a small sum from the payment.


If they have done a good job? then forget about it.

One other thing; is there a standard way of fixing carpets around
stair noses? Are they usually tacked in place, or held by a grip
strip as per the edges of a room?


Normally its tacked, but untacked it makes hoovering a tad easier to
clean providing its taught.

Taught what?
:-)

pmsl, Taut. :-P
--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

Normally its tacked, but untacked it makes hoovering a tad easier to clean
providing its taught.

Not sure how you could teach it?

But maybe 'taut' would make carpet vacuuming easier?

Sorry; but had to ask!

Terry wrote:
Normally its tacked, but untacked it makes hoovering a tad easier to
clean providing its taught.

Not sure how you could teach it?

But maybe 'taut' would make carpet vacuuming easier?

Sorry; but had to ask!

And if you would have read the rest of the post you would have seen my
reply to Mr morley. :-P
--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

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says...
Just had a carpet fitted in a house that I rent out. I couldn't be there
during the job and was surprised to find all the trimmings strewn on the
floor when I returned. I am not talking about the decent sized off-cuts
(which were left as well), but all the little scraps. I am wondering
whether this is standard practice, or whether the fitters wanted to
finish early and **** off down the pub because it's Friday. Advice/
comments welcome to help me decide whether to kick up a fuss and
withhold a small sum from the payment.

You need to go over a newly laid carpet with a vacuum cleaner anyway, so
what's the big deal?

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Rob Morley wrote:
You need to go over a newly laid carpet with a vacuum cleaner anyway, so
what's the big deal?

[sucks breath through teeth]

At one time you were told not to hoover a new carpet for a few weeks. ;-)

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*Procrastinate now

Dave Plowman London SW
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Rob Morley wrote:
You need to go over a newly laid carpet with a vacuum cleaner anyway, so
what's the big deal?

[sucks breath through teeth]

At one time you were told not to hoover a new carpet for a few weeks. ;-)


I don't remember that - when was it?
:-)

Rob Morley wrote:

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In article ,
Rob Morley wrote:

You need to go over a newly laid carpet with a vacuum cleaner anyway, so
what's the big deal?

[sucks breath through teeth]

At one time you were told not to hoover a new carpet for a few weeks. ;-)



I don't remember that - when was it?
:-)

A long time ago. I would imagine that Dave is talking about the fifties
or sixties here.

Dave

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Rob Morley wrote:

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In article ,
Rob Morley wrote:

You need to go over a newly laid carpet with a vacuum cleaner anyway, so
what's the big deal?

[sucks breath through teeth]

At one time you were told not to hoover a new carpet for a few weeks. ;-)



I don't remember that - when was it?
:-)

A long time ago. I would imagine that Dave is talking about the fifties
or sixties here.

I can remember the sixties, so it must have been the fifties :-)

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:44:06 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:

You need to go over a newly laid carpet with a vacuum cleaner
anyway, so what's the big deal?

The trimmings would clog a normal domestic vac... I suspect we aren't
talking about a few stray bits of fluff and hesian thread but long
strips anything from 1/2" wide to a inch or two. Then you have all the
little bits that will be shed from the cut edges.

IMHO it's "unprofessional", I don't expect a tradesman to leave the
place spotless but I *do* expect them to clear up any mess they
create. It's not as if carpet fitters wouldn't know there would be
trimings, they should have bought their own bag(s) and tidied up.

Talk to who ever you have the contract with, the fitters if you
employed them direct or the shop you bought the carpet from if they
supplied the fitting service.

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Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:44:06 +0100, Rob Morley wrote:

You need to go over a newly laid carpet with a vacuum cleaner
anyway, so what's the big deal?

The trimmings would clog a normal domestic vac... I suspect we aren't
talking about a few stray bits of fluff and hesian thread but long
strips anything from 1/2" wide to a inch or two. Then you have all the
little bits that will be shed from the cut edges.

I wasn't expecting to be able to vacuum the bits, just pointing out that
you might expect to do a bit of clearing up anyway.

IMHO it's "unprofessional", I don't expect a tradesman to leave the
place spotless but I *do* expect them to clear up any mess they
create. It's not as if carpet fitters wouldn't know there would be
trimings, they should have bought their own bag(s) and tidied up.

It's hardly a big deal though is it?

In article ,
Jim Walsh wrote:
Just had a carpet fitted in a house that I rent out. I couldn't be there
during the job and was surprised to find all the trimmings strewn on the
floor when I returned. I am not talking about the decent sized off-cuts
(which were left as well), but all the little scraps. I am wondering
whether this is standard practice, or whether the fitters wanted to
finish early and **** off down the pub because it's Friday. Advice/
comments welcome to help me decide whether to kick up a fuss and
withhold a small sum from the payment.

They *should* have cleared up. They usually put all the scraps in the
plastic bags the underlay comes on.

One other thing; is there a standard way of fixing carpets around stair
noses? Are they usually tacked in place, or held by a grip strip as per
the edges of a room?

Normal way is a gripper at the back of the tread and bottom of the facing
bit. This will work for either a runner or individual bits. Of course
where there is a bottom step which is bigger because of the newel post
etc, or where it turns a corner, there might be some tacks used.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:34:50 +0100,it is alleged that Jim Walsh
spake thusly in uk.d-i-y:

Just had a carpet fitted in a house that I rent out. I couldn't be there
during the job and was surprised to find all the trimmings strewn on the
floor when I returned. I am not talking about the decent sized off-cuts
(which were left as well), but all the little scraps. I am wondering
whether this is standard practice, or whether the fitters wanted to
finish early and **** off down the pub because it's Friday. Advice/
comments welcome to help me decide whether to kick up a fuss and
withhold a small sum from the payment.

From when I was a fitter's assistant (Underlay and Gripper and all the
dull bits g ), all I can say is they didn't do anything _wrong_ per
se, but they probably aren't expecting any future work, that was just
rude of them not to at least pile it up neatly if they didn't have a
bag.

One other thing; is there a standard way of fixing carpets around stair
noses? Are they usually tacked in place, or held by a grip strip as per
the edges of a room

Usually the straight bits of the stairs are held by opposing grippers
on the back of the tread/bottom of the riser, and the actual bullnose
stairs (curved ones at the bottom) are often tacked on the curves and
held by gripper on the straight bits. This varies a lot between
fitters though, basically if it *looks* good, then they did it right.

On a side note, ideally hold onto a couple of the larger offcuts to
redo the bottom stair if you have a rounded one, as if it needs to
come off, reusing it is usually distinctly suboptimal.

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- Ken Olson, President of DEC, 1977

"Jim Walsh" wrote in message
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Just had a carpet fitted in a house that I rent out. I couldn't be there
during the job and was surprised to find all the trimmings strewn on the
floor when I returned. I am not talking about the decent sized off-cuts
(which were left as well), but all the little scraps. I am wondering
whether this is standard practice, or whether the fitters wanted to
finish early and **** off down the pub because it's Friday. Advice/
comments welcome to help me decide whether to kick up a fuss and
withhold a small sum from the payment.

One other thing; is there a standard way of fixing carpets around stair
noses? Are they usually tacked in place, or held by a grip strip as per
the edges of a room?


Thanks in advance, Jim.

Pure laziness - if you bought from a shop that included the installation you
should make them aware of the problem. Good shops are always looking for
more business and one the best ways to lose it is by word of mouth! If you
bought the carpet separately and then brought in self employed fitters deal
with them direct I'm sure that if you paid them less than expected, by
deducting the clearing up cost, they would soon complain.

With regard to the stair nosing they should have installed a piece of
gripper nearly at the back of the tread and a piece nearly at the bottom of
the riser, the carpet is they bolstered tight into the gap. This would
leave a taut finish.

Jim Walsh wrote:
One other thing; is there a standard way of fixing carpets around stair
noses? Are they usually tacked in place, or held by a grip strip as per
the edges of a room?

Normally a piece of gripper is tacked to the bach of the tread,
and the botton of the riser. The carpet is pushed into the angle
formed, and secured. It isn't tacked to the nose of the tread
at all. The bottom step may be tacked on, especially to form the
carpet around, for a neat job.

In message , Jim Walsh
writes
Just had a carpet fitted in a house that I rent out. I couldn't be
there during the job and was surprised to find all the trimmings strewn
on the floor when I returned. I am not talking about the decent sized
off-cuts (which were left as well), but all the little scraps. I am
wondering whether this is standard practice, or whether the fitters
wanted to finish early and **** off down the pub because it's Friday.

Standard practice in my experience.

Advice/ comments welcome to help me decide whether to kick up a fuss
and withhold a small sum from the payment.

One other thing; is there a standard way of fixing carpets around stair
noses? Are they usually tacked in place, or held by a grip strip as per
the edges of a room?


Gripperrods on the part you step on, and tacked around the nose and
riser.


Thanks in advance, Jim.

--
Richard Faulkner

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Gripperrods on the part you step on, and tacked around the nose and
riser.


Whilst the "odd" tack is OK this method does not allow for the natural
movement of the carpet, and may lead to slackness, which may cause a trip
hazard.

Unless the carpet is wholly synthetic some movement has to be allowed for,
the only way to prevent this is to glue the carpet into position: a method
that is used in large installations.