Yes, I know it's "french windows", but everyone calls them doors.
Regarding PVCu double glazed doors, e.g. screwfix 1800x2100.
These have a plastic cill on the floor similar to window exterior
cills. I presume these are usually installed such that you have a ledge
to step over when entering or exiting. Is it OK to install such that
the floor level is higher inside than out, and the step down is in line
with the door ? In other words, interior floor level almost flush with
the doors, exterior ground level a step down. This would look good. It
may be the usual way for all I know !
Is this idea OK, or should I forget it ?
Simon.

wrote:
Yes, I know it's "french windows", but everyone calls them doors.

No, they don't. Fight it, and call them by their proper name!
Resist the "dumbing down" (sic).


Regarding PVCu double glazed doors, e.g. screwfix 1800x2100.
These have a plastic cill on the floor similar to window exterior
cills. I presume these are usually installed such that you have a ledge
to step over when entering or exiting. Is it OK to install such that
the floor level is higher inside than out, and the step down is in line
with the door ? In other words, interior floor level almost flush with
the doors, exterior ground level a step down. This would look good. It
may be the usual way for all I know !

That's how I installed my french windows, and the kitchen door.

wrote:
Yes, I know it's "french windows", but everyone calls them doors.
Regarding PVCu double glazed doors, e.g. screwfix 1800x2100.
These have a plastic cill on the floor similar to window exterior
cills. I presume these are usually installed such that you have a ledge
to step over when entering or exiting. Is it OK to install such that
the floor level is higher inside than out, and the step down is in line
with the door ? In other words, interior floor level almost flush with
the doors, exterior ground level a step down. This would look good. It
may be the usual way for all I know !

You need to install the french window above the DPC though. Where is
that going to be? DPC needs to be above internal floor level.

David

Lobster wrote:
DPC needs to be above internal floor level.

Below, shurelie?

No, they don't. Fight it, and call them by their proper name!
Resist the "dumbing down" (sic).

You're getting as bad as that bloke who constantly shouts at people for top
posting ;-)

DPC needs to be above internal floor level.
Below, shurelie?
How is this detailed with a concrete slab floor ?
I think there is some confusion, but the DPC can be at different levels
in the
inner and outer leaf of the cavity wall.

with the door ? In other words, interior floor level almost flush with
the doors, exterior ground level a step down. This would look good. It
may be the usual way for all I know !
That's how I installed my french windows, and the kitchen door.

Chris, was the step created by the screed, the slab, or by brick
coursing ?
I need details for all this stuff, as I am drawing up plans at present.
They seem to
required more precision than I had expected. I want my finished floor
to end up
the the right place !
Cheers,
Simon.

wrote:
DPC needs to be above internal floor level.

Below, shurelie?

How is this detailed with a concrete slab floor ?
I think there is some confusion, but the DPC can be at different levels
in the inner and outer leaf of the cavity wall.

DPC should be below floor level, or your floor will be liable
to damp! There's also the possibility of various levels of
damp course, and vertical ones, e.g. around frames.


with the door ? In other words, interior floor level almost flush with
the doors, exterior ground level a step down. This would look good. It
may be the usual way for all I know !

That's how I installed my french windows, and the kitchen door.


Chris, was the step created by the screed, the slab, or by brick
coursing ? I need details for all this stuff, as I am drawing up
plans at present. They seem to required more precision than I
had expected. I want my finished floor to end up the the right place !

In the case of the door, I put in a concrete floor with Visqueen
polythene DPM, overlayed onto the brickwork under the door sill,
and brought up vertically. I bricked up on that to below finished
level. When the sill of the new frame was bedded on the brickwork,
it was the right level. With the Fe3nch windows, I simply knocked
off a course, and simply bedded the (wide) hardwood sill on the
course below (solid wall, suspended floor). Nothing technical!

Séan Connolly wrote:
No, they don't. Fight it, and call them by their proper name!
Resist the "dumbing down" (sic).


You're getting as bad as that bloke who constantly shouts at
people for top posting ;-)

It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it. Why call things
by a wrong name? Yes, I suppose in the case of fr3nch windows,
it's probably the Yank influence. Surely, if you call these
things "doors", then the french bit is redundant, they're
merely exterior glazed doors! Some bloke here a while ago was
talking about his broken "toilet sink" - well!! The chap on
TV glazing a Carolina style door referred to his pin punch
as a "hole punch" - what?! He also called his skeleton gun
a "glue gun" (not even the less accurate "mastic gun").

It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it. Why call things
by a wrong name?

You'd best put the world right and edit this then !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_door

In article , "Séan
Connolly" mrcATseanDASHconnollyDOTcoDOTuk says...
It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it. Why call things
by a wrong name?

You'd best put the world right and edit this then !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_door

Which says "french doors, properly called French WINDOWS". But I don't
suppose you managed to read the whole article, all three lines of it ...

Which says "french doors, properly called French WINDOWS". But I don't
suppose you managed to read the whole article, all three lines of it ...
I think he may have just edited it. I read it an hour ago, and didn't
notice the WINDOWS comment !
Simon.

Which says "french doors, properly called French WINDOWS". But I don't
suppose you managed to read the whole article, all three lines of it ...

Sorry, but please don't inflict your ignorance of how Wikipedia works on me.

In article . com,
says...
Which says "french doors, properly called French WINDOWS". But I don't
suppose you managed to read the whole article, all three lines of it ...
I think he may have just edited it. I read it an hour ago, and didn't
notice the WINDOWS comment !

I guess that's the wonder of Wiki :-)

Yes, I know it's "french windows", but everyone calls them doors.
Regarding PVCu double glazed doors, e.g. screwfix 1800x2100.

Fit proper wooden ones. Plastic French windows? What a horrible idea!

Christian.

Séan Connolly wrote:
It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it. Why call things
by a wrong name?


You'd best put the world right and edit this then !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_door

It says "properly called a French WINDOW".

You'd best put the world right and edit this then !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_door

It says "properly called a French WINDOW".

Aye, because somebody has edited it since I last looked to say that.

Infact it was at 14:01, 13 October 2005 by 137.108.145.11 I thought it was
you !

You see, if I was a revisionist, I could change it back ;-)

(I'm not disputing what you say btw)

Séan Connolly wrote:
(I'm not disputing what you say btw) (about french windows)

I'm not trying to be awkward, either! It's just that some things
get up my nose a bit (brick trowel patterns, for instance).

I'm not trying to be awkward, either! It's just that some things
get up my nose a bit (brick trowel patterns, for instance).

LOL ! I know where you're coming from, but I think language tends to evolve
(devolve?) and change whether we like it or not !

In article , "Séan
Connolly" mrcATseanDASHconnollyDOTcoDOTuk says...
Which says "french doors, properly called French WINDOWS". But I don't
suppose you managed to read the whole article, all three lines of it ...

Sorry

I'm not sure I'm willing to accept that apology.

Chris Bacon wrote:
Lobster wrote:

DPC needs to be above internal floor level.

Below, shurelie?

You've got me thinking now. IIRC, every DPC I've come across has been
at the level behind the skirting boards. But I suppose it doesn't
matter much either way, providing there's a proper DPM beneath the
floor, which comes up the side of the slab and behind the skirting - ie,
floor will be isolated from below-DPC brickwork either way?

Oh and by the way, please don't call me Shurelie.

David

Séan Connolly wrote:
You'd best put the world right and edit this then !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_door

It says "properly called a French WINDOW".


Aye, because somebody has edited it since I last looked to say that.

Infact it was at 14:01, 13 October 2005 by 137.108.145.11 I thought it was
you !

It's been edited 5 times today in fact - so far...

David

I'm not sure I'm willing to accept that apology.

whatever