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Hi,

I have two typical 'hoselock' hosepipes and connectors. They refuse to hold
water when not being used, like with those gun attachments you get that can
be turned off without turning the main tap off. I connect these to outside
taps, even though I turned the mains water pressure down, after about 30
seconds of non use, the hose fills with water, drips at the main tap and
other connections, then blows off under pressure.
This is annoying and I'm sick of the garage getting flooded.

Is there any screw on connectors that can be bought that I hope will be
better than the push on stuff? Maybe there is some other solution....

James


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"James" wrote in message
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Hi,

I have two typical 'hoselock' hosepipes and connectors. They refuse to
hold water when not being used, like with those gun attachments you get
that can be turned off without turning the main tap off. I connect these
to outside taps, even though I turned the mains water pressure down, after
about 30 seconds of non use, the hose fills with water, drips at the main
tap and other connections, then blows off under pressure.
This is annoying and I'm sick of the garage getting flooded.

Is there any screw on connectors that can be bought that I hope will be
better than the push on stuff? Maybe there is some other solution....

James


Are you using real Hozelock, because I've not had any trouble with them,
....and did you really turn the pressure down or merely reduce the flow - two
different things.

Peter


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Hi,

I have two typical 'hoselock' hosepipes and connectors. They refuse to hold
water when not being used, like with those gun attachments you get that can
be turned off without turning the main tap off. I connect these to outside
taps, even though I turned the mains water pressure down,


Pressure, or flow?

after about 30
seconds of non use, the hose fills with water, drips at the main tap and
other connections, then blows off under pressure.


What exactly is blowing off? is the pushfit connector coming away from
the 'spigot ' on the tap or what

This is annoying and I'm sick of the garage getting flooded.

Is there any screw on connectors that can be bought that I hope will be
better than the push on stuff?


Well for the tap connection you could use screw on hose spigot and a
jubilee clip.

Maybe there is some other solution....


I'm wondering about the problem, we had v. good water pressure in
Leeds, I had plenty of Hozelock ' fittings and never had problem (I did
have various problems with cheapie copies, primarily early failure due
to poor quality materials.

Have you tried things like wswapping around fittings etc, maybe the
Hozelock spigot fitting on the tap is worn?
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Chris French

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I turned the lever at the point where the mains comes in, I guess I reduced
the flow. How can I get the pressure reduced?

It is genuine hozelock stuff...

James


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"James" wrote in message
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Hi,

I have two typical 'hoselock' hosepipes and connectors. They refuse to
hold water when not being used, like with those gun attachments you get
that can be turned off without turning the main tap off. I connect these
to outside taps, even though I turned the mains water pressure down,
after about 30 seconds of non use, the hose fills with water, drips at
the main tap and other connections, then blows off under pressure.
This is annoying and I'm sick of the garage getting flooded.

Is there any screw on connectors that can be bought that I hope will be
better than the push on stuff? Maybe there is some other solution....

James


Are you using real Hozelock, because I've not had any trouble with them,
...and did you really turn the pressure down or merely reduce the flow -
two different things.

Peter



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On 5 Oct 2005 14:04:02 -0500, "James"
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Hi,

I have two typical 'hoselock' hosepipes and connectors. They refuse to hold
water when not being used, like with those gun attachments you get that can
be turned off without turning the main tap off. I connect these to outside
taps, even though I turned the mains water pressure down, after about 30
seconds of non use, the hose fills with water, drips at the main tap and
other connections, then blows off under pressure.
This is annoying and I'm sick of the garage getting flooded.

Is there any screw on connectors that can be bought that I hope will be
better than the push on stuff? Maybe there is some other solution....

James


I have the same problem, I live downhill from the pumping station,
that also server the hill above me. I beleive the solution is to put a
preasure reducing value on the rising main. I also have issues with
taps, ball valules showers etc not holding the preasure.

Rick



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"James" wrote in message
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I turned the lever at the point where the mains comes in, I guess I reduced
the flow. How can I get the pressure reduced?

It is genuine hozelock stuff...

James


Something like this: RWC 15MM ADJ PRESSURE REDUCING VALVE - part no: 171405
on http://www.plumbcenter.co.uk
will give a picture and some details.

Peter


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Rick wrote:
On 5 Oct 2005 14:04:02 -0500, "James"
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Hi,

I have two typical 'hoselock' hosepipes and connectors. They refuse
to hold water when not being used,


You can buy brass Hoselock type fittings - much, much better. Cost more but
you only buy them once.

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...13866&ts=42947

Dave


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Are there O-rings on the Hozelock fitting?
That might explain your predicament (see my other thread on Where To
Buy
such O-rings).

Mungo

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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
James wrote:

Hi,

I have two typical 'hoselock' hosepipes and connectors. They refuse
to hold water when not being used, like with those gun attachments
you get that can be turned off without turning the main tap off. I
connect these to outside taps, even though I turned the mains water
pressure down, after about 30 seconds of non use, the hose fills with
water, drips at the main tap and other connections, then blows off
under pressure.
This is annoying and I'm sick of the garage getting flooded.

Is there any screw on connectors that can be bought that I hope will
be better than the push on stuff? Maybe there is some other
solution....

James


Some hoze taps are supplied with a brass screw-on fitting which has a fluted
outlet tube onto which you can push a hosepipe, and secure it with a jubilee
clip. If yours doesn't have one, you should be able to buy one loose.

Having said that, I'm not quite sure why you're having problems. Presumably
with your Hozelock fittings, you have one bit which screws onto the tap and
whose outlet is in the form of a spigot with an O-ring in a groove. Then the
bit on the end of the hose snaps onto the spigot. Is that right?

Are these two fittings separating from each other, or are they staying
together, and the hose pulling off the second fitting?

If the former, make sure that the hose fitting is pushed firmly onto the
spigot so that it snaps into position. It is sometimes helpful to pull back
the sliding collar on the hose fitting as you fit it, and then to make sure
that it snaps back into the original position.

If the latter, make sure that the end of the hose is cut off exactly square,
and that it is pushed all the way into the fitting before the retaining
collet nut is done up. The nut requires *strong* hand pressure.

Have you measured your mains pressure. Mine is about 4 bar at zero flow, and
I have very little problem with hose fittings coming apart if I proceed as
above. If your pressure is significantly higher than this, you may need a
pressure reducing valve. Simply restricting the flow won't reduce the
pressure when there *isn't* any flow!
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Set Square wrote:

Some hoze taps are supplied with a brass screw-on fitting which has a
fluted outlet tube onto which you can push a hosepipe, and secure it
with a jubilee clip. If yours doesn't have one, you should be able to
buy one loose.


Technically known as a 'cap & liner'. Typically a 3/4" BSP x 1/2" tail cap
& liner.

Dave


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