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I have been thinking about the issue of model equivalency between an air
regulator and a transformer again. Recall that I had postulated that the equations of air flow and pressure with respect to an air regulator might be similar to the equations of electricity flow and pressure (amps/volts) with respect to a transformer. For an ideal transformer, of course, the product of amps and volts on either side of the transformer is constant. Thus I had postulated that if air were flowing e.g. at 10 cfm at 180 psi and it were regulated down to 90 psi through an (unachievable) ideal regulator, the output would be 20 cfm at 90 psi. That discussion generated much heat but little light some months ago (GTA). Many people felt that if you have an air compressor which can generate e.g. 10 cfm into 90 psi that you cannot ever get more than 10 cfm out of it no matter what. (It is possible that they didn't feel this way, but that is what I perceived, but as usual I may have been wrong.) As an interesting corollary to this discussion I just found an interesting equation which I had not known, which is the mathematical relationship between SCFM and CFM when the air pressure is expressed in pounds per square inch (psi): SCFM = CFM * SQRT[(Pg + 14.7)/14.7] ;; Pg expressed in psi For example if a compressor is rated to deliver 10 cfm into 90 psi then it could equivalently be rated to deliver approximately 26 SCFM. So beware of SCFM ratings unless you have the above equation handy! (In case anyone is curious, I got the above equation from a Sylvania Web page: http://www.sylvania.com/pmc/heaters/air/using.htm) I propose an experiment: an air regulator with an airflow meter on either side of it, plumbed in series with it. If I attached my compressor to the input of this and a big air grinder (running unloaded) or some other fairly constant load, let the tank charge up fully and then open the tank valve to energize the system, let the system stabilize and then pull the trigger on the air grinder and take readings off the airflow meters for several different regulator settings, that should produce data which would either support or refute my postulated equations of flow/pressure on either side of the regulator. So. Does my proposed experiment make sense? Does anyone have a couple of suitable airflow meters they would like to loan me or sell me real cheap? Grant Erwin Kirkland, Washington |
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