I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
floor - it's a kind of shiny black - and I dont want to risk breaching
the damp proof barrier, nor crumbling the floor, by nailing gripperods
down. Is there another way, e.g. very sticky gripperods??


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"No more nails"/ Gripfill works pretty well.

xscope wrote:
"No more nails"/ Gripfill works pretty well.

Yep, last carpet I had fitted was to a solid floor and the guys used
that stuff. Ideally stick the grippers down the day before you want to
carpet.

David

Richard Faulkner wrote:
I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
floor - it's a kind of shiny black

Does not sound like asphalt.


- and I dont want to risk breaching
the damp proof barrier, nor crumbling the floor, by nailing gripperods
down. Is there another way, e.g. very sticky gripperods??

Gripfill. Once the carpet's been down for an hour or two, grippers just
keep the edges down, they're not subject to much "pull". What sort of
carpet are you putting down? Do you need grippers? What really *is* the
floor made of, I wonder.

In message , Chris Bacon
writes
Richard Faulkner wrote:
I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
floor - it's a kind of shiny black

Does not sound like asphalt.



Perhaps not - I'll ask my builder if he knows what it might be.

- and I dont want to risk breaching the damp proof barrier, nor
crumbling the floor, by nailing gripperods down. Is there another
way, e.g. very sticky gripperods??

Gripfill.

Does this glue the carpet down, (which I'm not sure I want), or does it
glue the grippers down.

Once the carpet's been down for an hour or two, grippers just
keep the edges down, they're not subject to much "pull". What sort of
carpet are you putting down?

A £6 per yard berber I think, over 11mm Cloud 9 underlay.

Do you need grippers?

In areas of other flats where there are no grippers, it looks terrible.

What really *is* the
floor made of, I wonder.

???? G

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Lobster wrote:

xscope wrote:

"No more nails"/ Gripfill works pretty well.

Yep, last carpet I had fitted was to a solid floor and the guys used
that stuff. Ideally stick the grippers down the day before you want to
carpet.

And remember to pull the nails out that would usually be used to fix
them down, or you will have interesting lumps in your carpet!

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In message , Chris Bacon
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Richard Faulkner wrote:
I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
floor - it's a kind of shiny black

Does not sound like asphalt.

Perhaps not - I'll ask my builder if he knows what it might be.

Probably rubberised bituminous emulsion

http://www.ruberoid.ie/ruberoid41.htm

Looks like you could use that as an adhesive too.

Chris Bacon wrote:
Richard Faulkner wrote:
I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
floor - it's a kind of shiny black

Does not sound like asphalt.

Sorry to disagree, but it sounds exactly like the asphalt floor I had in my
previous house.

Use the solvent based No More Nails to fix the grippers.

Dave

Chris Bacon wrote:

Does not sound like asphalt.

could be "self leveling" latex cement...


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Richard Faulkner wrote:
In message , Chris Bacon
writes

Gripfill.

Does this glue the carpet down, (which I'm not sure I want), or does it
glue the grippers down.

The grippers

David

"Richard Faulkner" wrote in message
...
I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt floor -
it's a kind of shiny black - and I dont want to risk breaching the damp
proof barrier, nor crumbling the floor, by nailing gripperods down. Is
there another way, e.g. very sticky gripperods??


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Richard Faulkner

If it is asphalt or similar i.e. a bitumen based substance, then solvent
based adhesives like gripfill or "no more nails"will dissolve the surface to
a degree and not adhere strongly enough. We use a urethane or cyanoacrylate
type of adhesive to stick the gripper down but don't ask me where you would
find a retail outlet for the stuff. That said though, there isn't much
strength in bonding to asphalt at the best of times. You might still pull
the gripper off the floor if you stretch the carpet properly. Cut the
gripper into 300mm lengths to take up any unevenness in the floor, shorter
if you have to and don't skimp on the amount of adhesive you use - you need
what you need - and that's that! If you find the cyanoacrylate type of
adhesive, it will probably be the foaming type so read the instructions
properly, I can't stress that enough, you'll find out why when you use it.

Grumble

Grumble wrote:
"Richard Faulkner" wrote in message
...

I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
floor - it's a kind of shiny black - and I dont want to risk
breaching the damp proof barrier, nor crumbling the floor, by
nailing gripperods down. Is there another way, e.g. very sticky
gripperods??

If it is asphalt or similar i.e. a bitumen based substance, then
solvent based adhesives like gripfill or "no more nails"will dissolve
the surface to a degree and not adhere strongly enough.

But you can get "No more nails"-type stuff in both solvent and
water-based flavours though; in fact the one I use routinely is water-based

David

Gripfill the gripper only, not the carpet! Or else you will have a costly job on your hands!

Richard Faulkner wrote:
Chris Bacon writes

Richard Faulkner wrote:

I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
floor - it's a kind of shiny black
- and I dont want to risk breaching the damp proof barrier, nor
crumbling the floor, by nailing gripperods down. Is there another
way, e.g. very sticky gripperods??

Gripfill.

Does this glue the carpet down, (which I'm not sure I want), or does it
glue the grippers down.

It glues the grippers down. If not nailing down, then pull the short
masonry nails out, squeeze a good bead along the back of the gripper,
and rub it onto the floor (which *must* be clean and not dusty). It's
got quite a good "grab", but you might need to put something like
bricks on if the gripper's bendy. Leave for 24 hrs. min.


Once the carpet's been down for an hour or two, grippers just
keep the edges down, they're not subject to much "pull". What sort of
carpet are you putting down?

A £6 per yard berber I think

Is that on hessian?

Dave wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:
Richard Faulkner wrote:
I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
floor - it's a kind of shiny black

Does not sound like asphalt.

Sorry to disagree, but it sounds exactly like the asphalt floor I had in my
previous house.

Haven't seen a shiny one!


Use the solvent based No More Nails to fix the grippers.

Yes, I forgot to mention that - the other stuff is not as good,
especially for something like this!

replying to Richard Faulkner, [GC]jimi wrote:
i am a carpet fitter buy some spay adhesive coat the floor round the out side
othe room alow to dry cut carpet grippers into 8 inch strips use gripfill a
1cm beed push gripper strips onto the gripill in a forward backward and left
to right movementevenly all the way around the room leaving about 1 cm gap to
the skirting leave for at least 24 hrs and bobs your uncle

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On 03/07/2016 15:44, [GC] jimi wrote:
replying to Richard Faulkner, [GC]jimi wrote:

leave for at least 24 hrs and bobs your uncle


He left it for more than 24 hours - 11 years ago when he asked the question.

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On Sunday, 3 July 2016 15:44:03 UTC+1, [GC]jimi wrote:
i am a carpet fitter buy some spay adhesive

Is that from a veterinary supplier?

Owain