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Cif makes yer eye sting?
Hi All,
There I was happily cleaning a fridge that was given to me (we never used) and was giving to someone else (setting up home for the first time) and as I put the bottle of Cif (formally Jif) down a bit spurted out of the bottle and into my eye ;-( I bought some Optrex eye wash and gave my eye a couple of washes but it continued hurting (well more like 'very uncomfortable' than hurt) all day and has only gone back to normal from when I woke up this morning? So, what is it in Cif cream cleaner that would hurt an eye so much please? Also has anyone else had that happen, when you put one of these flip cap 'easy squeeze' style bottles down a bit firmly and it spits back out? (It could equally been car polish etc) I wonder if there is need for a baffle just inside the spout? I also notice that the latest squeezy tomato sauce type bottles have a rubber diaphragm in the top that you have to squeeze the stuff past .. maybe that would do it ( also stop some coming out if the bottle gets knocked over)? All the best .. T i m |
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:47:53 GMT, T i m wrote:
Hi All, There I was happily cleaning a fridge that was given to me (we never used) and was giving to someone else (setting up home for the first time) and as I put the bottle of Cif (formally Jif) down a bit spurted out of the bottle and into my eye ;-( I bought some Optrex eye wash and gave my eye a couple of washes but it continued hurting (well more like 'very uncomfortable' than hurt) all day and has only gone back to normal from when I woke up this morning? So, what is it in Cif cream cleaner that would hurt an eye so much please? I am not certain, but I believe there have been reports of Flash cleaner in the past causing eye damage, so there is nasty stuff around. Also has anyone else had that happen, when you put one of these flip cap 'easy squeeze' style bottles down a bit firmly and it spits back out? (It could equally been car polish etc) I wonder if there is need for a baffle just inside the spout? I also notice that the latest squeezy tomato sauce type bottles have a rubber diaphragm in the top that you have to squeeze the stuff past .. maybe that would do it ( also stop some coming out if the bottle gets knocked over)? All the best .. T i m -- ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
I also notice that the latest squeezy tomato sauce type bottles have a
rubber diaphragm in the top that you have to squeeze the stuff past .. Horrendous thing, great for keeping the top of the bottle clean, but you have to apply so much pressure to the bottle to force it out that if you arent quite aimed right, you get projectile tomato sauce shooting across the table. |
Is Cif abrasive ? That could scratch the eye and create day-long
symptoms. Be glad you don't wear contact lenses. It hurts even more then. You have to try and get the lens out whilst eyes are watering etc, and the stuff gets trapped beneath the lens ! Also, don't confuse lens cleaner and lens wetting solution. Simon. |
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:24:01 +0100, Andy Hall
wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:47:53 GMT, T i m wrote: Hi All, There I was happily cleaning a fridge that was given to me (we never used) and was giving to someone else (setting up home for the first time) and as I put the bottle of Cif (formally Jif) down a bit spurted out of the bottle and into my eye ;-( I bought some Optrex eye wash and gave my eye a couple of washes but it continued hurting (well more like 'very uncomfortable' than hurt) all day and has only gone back to normal from when I woke up this morning? So, what is it in Cif cream cleaner that would hurt an eye so much please? I am not certain, but I believe there have been reports of Flash cleaner in the past causing eye damage, so there is nasty stuff around. I had thought in these days of super precaution / liability that most chemicals are safe enough to drink (compared with yesteryear I mean) ... like Creosote etc? do not do this at home! You are correct though .. judging by the discomfort yesterday .. I think 'arc eye' was less painful! All the best .. T i m |
On 21 Jul 2005 01:59:13 -0700, "Mark Trueman"
wrote: I also notice that the latest squeezy tomato sauce type bottles have a rubber diaphragm in the top that you have to squeeze the stuff past .. Horrendous thing, great for keeping the top of the bottle clean, but you have to apply so much pressure to the bottle to force it out that if you arent quite aimed right, you get projectile tomato sauce shooting across the table. LOL .. been there done that (the first time I used it). I asked my 15 yr old daughter where she wanted some sauce and she said 'everywhere'. I squeezed, and squeezed harder then woosh .. all over the tray, worktop , my leg .. ;-( She just looked at me and said "I meant everywhere on my dinner .." ;-) All the best .. T i m |
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"T i m" wrote in message ... I had thought in these days of super precaution / liability that most chemicals are safe enough to drink (compared with yesteryear I mean) .. like Creosote etc? do not do this at home! I thought all household stuff said that if it was accidentally splashed in the eye it shold be rinsed with plenty of water. Just now I've been cleaning and found a bottle of Cif - yes, it said that. I wouldn't use Optrex for anything, what's the point? Instant dilution is far more effective. I hope there's no permanent damage - I don'tsuppose there is. Mary |
"T i m" wrote in message ... I asked my 15 yr old daughter where she wanted some sauce and she said 'everywhere'. I squeezed, and squeezed harder then woosh .. all over the tray, worktop , my leg .. ;-( She just looked at me and said "I meant everywhere on my dinner .." ;-) Isn't she allowed to squirt her own condiment? :-) Mary All the best .. T i m |
"T i m" wrote in message ... On 21 Jul 2005 02:10:04 -0700, wrote: Is Cif abrasive ? It is .. That could scratch the eye and create day-long symptoms. I think that must have been part of it .. Be glad you don't wear contact lenses. It hurts even more then. You have to try and get the lens out whilst eyes are watering etc, and the stuff gets trapped beneath the lens ! I understand how that must feel via my lens wearing missus .. "an eyelash feels like a knife' she says .. Also, don't confuse lens cleaner and lens wetting solution. Ok . (I'll stick with glasses for the moment then ) .. Simon. All the best .. T i m If you had your glasses on how did you get it in your eye? |
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T i m wrote: I had thought in these days of super precaution / liability that most chemicals are safe enough to drink (compared with yesteryear I mean) .. like Creosote etc? do not do this at home! You are correct though .. judging by the discomfort yesterday .. I think 'arc eye' was less painful! I don't know. It seems to me that household cleaners and disinfectants have become more 'industrial strength' in recent years. What about the stupidity of a spray caustic oven cleaner? Spray it into that enclosed space and it comes back into your face... Caustic, in your eyes and down your lungs. -- Tony Williams. |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:23:07 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote: "T i m" wrote in message .. . I had thought in these days of super precaution / liability that most chemicals are safe enough to drink (compared with yesteryear I mean) .. like Creosote etc? do not do this at home! I thought all household stuff said that if it was accidentally splashed in the eye it shold be rinsed with plenty of water. Just now I've been cleaning and found a bottle of Cif - yes, it said that. You are probably right Mary. I wouldn't use Optrex for anything, what's the point? Erm, to bathe and soothe? Instant dilution is far more effective. I'm sure it would have been. I hope there's no permanent damage - I don'tsuppose there is. Thanks for the thought .. no, I think things are back to normal (minor macular distortion (wet type) in my left eye and ever shortening arms) ;-) All the best .. T i m Mary |
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:19:50 +0100, Tony Williams
wrote: In article , T i m wrote: I had thought in these days of super precaution / liability that most chemicals are safe enough to drink (compared with yesteryear I mean) .. like Creosote etc? do not do this at home! You are correct though .. judging by the discomfort yesterday .. I think 'arc eye' was less painful! I don't know. It seems to me that household cleaners and disinfectants have become more 'industrial strength' in recent years. Some maybe .. What about the stupidity of a spray caustic oven cleaner? Oven .hmm . oven .. ah, the thing I use for heating crankcases ;-) Spray it into that enclosed space and it comes back into your face... Caustic, in your eyes and down your lungs. Like when you blow brick dust out of a hole you have just drilled and you end up with it all back in yer face .. even though you have made the same mistake several times before .. no .. ah, just me then blush ;-) All the best .. T i m |
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:23:47 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote: "T i m" wrote in message .. . I asked my 15 yr old daughter where she wanted some sauce and she said 'everywhere'. I squeezed, and squeezed harder then woosh .. all over the tray, worktop , my leg .. ;-( She just looked at me and said "I meant everywhere on my dinner .." ;-) Isn't she allowed to squirt her own condiment? Good gracious no! Mary Fisher, I would have expected better of you! ;-) Yes of course she is ... just I had just done mine and I got the 15 yr style grunt and nod towards her plate so read that as "Excuse me Daddy darling, would you be so kind and apply some of that to my meal" .. ? Thinking back, it could well have just been a trap and she knew I'd end up wearing the stuff! ... sigh All the best .. T i m |
T i m wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:23:47 +0100, "Mary Fisher" wrote: "T i m" wrote in message ... I asked my 15 yr old daughter where she wanted some sauce and she said 'everywhere'. I squeezed, and squeezed harder then woosh .. all over the tray, worktop , my leg .. ;-( She just looked at me and said "I meant everywhere on my dinner .." ;-) Isn't she allowed to squirt her own condiment? Good gracious no! Mary Fisher, I would have expected better of you! ;-) Yes of course she is ... just I had just done mine and I got the 15 yr style grunt and nod towards her plate so read that as "Excuse me Daddy darling, would you be so kind and apply some of that to my meal" .. ? I reckon you were just using the male strategic incompetence technique. The one that leaves us not being asked to do something next time ;-) |
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:46:47 GMT, "Peter Andrews"
wrote: "T i m" wrote in message .. . On 21 Jul 2005 02:10:04 -0700, wrote: Ok . (I'll stick with glasses for the moment then ) .. If you had your glasses on how did you get it in your eye? Good question Peter. We were cleaning this tall fridge freezer outside my (remote) lockup. We had taken a bucket, sponge, a couple of containers of hot water, Cif, Fairy etc. We had used all the hot water and pretty well finished the thing when I spotted the mains cable could do with a wipe over. I apllied some Cif to the still damp sponge and bent over slightly to put the Cif on the groud when it fell out of my hand for maybe the last couple of inches. I was looking down at about 45 deg and only wear cheap 'general purpose' reading glasses that are sorta rectangular and are perched near the end of my nose (leaving a big gap betwen the glasses and my eyes) or more often up on my head (so I don't leave them behind / sit - tread on them). At the time I just wiped my around my eye a bit with a tissue (as I didn't fancy the look of the green water in the water butt) but the discomfort slowly got worse. We finished what we were doing, cleared up and the nearest solution (excuse the pun) on our way home was the Chemist and the Optrex. All the best .. T i m |
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:58:24 GMT, "PC Paul" wrote:
Yes of course she is ... just I had just done mine and I got the 15 yr style grunt and nod towards her plate so read that as "Excuse me Daddy darling, would you be so kind and apply some of that to my meal" .. ? I reckon you were just using the male strategic incompetence technique. Shhhh, Mary could be awake / sober The one that leaves us not being asked to do something next time ;-) "I've done the washing up darling but you know your favourite plate .... " ;-) All the best .. T i m |
"T i m" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:23:07 +0100, "Mary Fisher" wrote: "T i m" wrote in message . .. I had thought in these days of super precaution / liability that most chemicals are safe enough to drink (compared with yesteryear I mean) .. like Creosote etc? do not do this at home! I thought all household stuff said that if it was accidentally splashed in the eye it shold be rinsed with plenty of water. Just now I've been cleaning and found a bottle of Cif - yes, it said that. You are probably right Mary. I wouldn't use Optrex for anything, what's the point? Erm, to bathe and soothe? In my experience it's no better than plain water - but that's just my experience. The opticians I know (all four of them!) say the same. I do have some 'artificial tears' which do soothe - but I wouldn't know where to find them in an emergency. I hope there's no permanent damage - I don'tsuppose there is. Thanks for the thought .. no, I think things are back to normal (minor macular distortion (wet type) in my left eye and ever shortening arms) ;-) The latter comes with wisdom. smirk Mary |
"T i m" wrote in message ... Like when you blow brick dust out of a hole you have just drilled and you end up with it all back in yer face .. even though you have made the same mistake several times before .. no .. ah, just me then blush ;-) Not just you, I've seen loads of blokes do it. smirk Mary |
"T i m" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:23:47 +0100, "Mary Fisher" wrote: "T i m" wrote in message . .. I asked my 15 yr old daughter where she wanted some sauce and she said 'everywhere'. I squeezed, and squeezed harder then woosh .. all over the tray, worktop , my leg .. ;-( She just looked at me and said "I meant everywhere on my dinner .." ;-) Isn't she allowed to squirt her own condiment? Good gracious no! Mary Fisher, I would have expected better of you! ;-) Yes of course she is ... just I had just done mine and I got the 15 yr style grunt and nod towards her plate so read that as "Excuse me Daddy darling, would you be so kind and apply some of that to my meal" .. ? Mine never grunted that to me. We never had squirty bottles ...but they wouldn't have trusted anyone else even if we did have. Mary |
"PC Paul" wrote in message .uk... T i m wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:23:47 +0100, "Mary Fisher" wrote: "T i m" wrote in message ... I asked my 15 yr old daughter where she wanted some sauce and she said 'everywhere'. I squeezed, and squeezed harder then woosh .. all over the tray, worktop , my leg .. ;-( She just looked at me and said "I meant everywhere on my dinner .." ;-) Isn't she allowed to squirt her own condiment? Good gracious no! Mary Fisher, I would have expected better of you! ;-) Yes of course she is ... just I had just done mine and I got the 15 yr style grunt and nod towards her plate so read that as "Excuse me Daddy darling, would you be so kind and apply some of that to my meal" .. ? I reckon you were just using the male strategic incompetence technique. The one that leaves us not being asked to do something next time ;-) I reckon it's a cert that he WILL be asked again :-) Mary |
"Mark Trueman" wrote in message ups.com... I also notice that the latest squeezy tomato sauce type bottles have a rubber diaphragm in the top that you have to squeeze the stuff past .. Horrendous thing, great for keeping the top of the bottle clean, but you have to apply so much pressure to the bottle to force it out that if you arent quite aimed right, you get projectile tomato sauce shooting across the table. Oh - it's not just me then. |
"T i m" wrote in message ... Shhhh, Mary could be awake / sober Sober, yes. Until after dinner. Awake, not 100%. An Italian neighbour died in the night and there was much to-ing and fro-ing of an ambulance crew who couldn't get access, police who had to break down her back door security grill (she was paranoid) only to be too late, wailing sons, daughter, grandchildren, assorted spouses and ex spouses, girl-friends, boy friends, partners, hangers on and other Italian neighbours, some of whom have been sworn enemies with the corpse for years. It caused disturbance from 0430. It does make me wonder about over-locking property when you live alone. We don't have any security devices except five lever locks so doors can be hacked down.. The one that leaves us not being asked to do something next time ;-) "I've done the washing up darling but you know your favourite plate ... " ;-) Well you can only break it once. Might as well carry on practising washing up. Mary |
"Mary Fisher" wrote in
. net: The opticians I know (all four of them!) One for each eye? 8-) -- Rich P Replace .invalid with .com to reply. |
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:04:46 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote: I wouldn't use Optrex for anything, what's the point? Erm, to bathe and soothe? In my experience it's no better than plain water - but that's just my experience. The opticians I know (all four of them!) say the same. They are probably right .. as I was away from home would I just lay on my back and wait for rain or go to the Chemist and ask for an eyebath and a cup of water? ;-) I do have some 'artificial tears' which do soothe - but I wouldn't know where to find them in an emergency. Most women I know know exactly where to find their 'artificial tears' in an emergency or otherwise .. usually just after I question the reasoning that 'the clothes sale will save us money" .. ;-) I hope there's no permanent damage - I don'tsuppose there is. Thanks for the thought .. no, I think things are back to normal (minor macular distortion (wet type) in my left eye and ever shortening arms) ;-) The latter comes with wisdom. smirk And if that comes with age Mary ... ? smirk ;-) All the best .. T i m |
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:22:21 +0100, Richard Polhill
wrote: "Mary Fisher" wrote in .net: The opticians I know (all four of them!) One for each eye? 8-) I can picture a pipe and monical Richard ;-) T i m |
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:16:03 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote: "T i m" wrote in message .. . Shhhh, Mary could be awake / sober Sober, yes. Until after dinner. Awake, not 100%. An Italian neighbour died in the night and there was much to-ing and fro-ing of an ambulance crew who couldn't get access, police who had to break down her back door security grill (she was paranoid) only to be too late, wailing sons, daughter, grandchildren, assorted spouses and ex spouses, girl-friends, boy friends, partners, hangers on and other Italian neighbours, some of whom have been sworn enemies with the corpse for years. Crikey, how many years had they been dead for goodness sake! It caused disturbance from 0430. A.D. I assume? It does make me wonder about over-locking property when you live alone. We don't have any security devices except five lever locks so doors can be hacked down.. Ah, but if any right minded ner-do-well had heard you chastising the spouse I think they may try elsewhere (just to be safe). ;-) The one that leaves us not being asked to do something next time ;-) "I've done the washing up darling but you know your favourite plate ... " ;-) Well you can only break it once. Might as well carry on practising washing up. "Darling, I've finished the washing up again as you asked .. we still have some paper plates don't we ..? All the best .. T i m |
T i m wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:16:03 +0100, "Mary Fisher" wrote: The one that leaves us not being asked to do something next time ;-) "I've done the washing up darling but you know your favourite plate ... " ;-) Well you can only break it once. Might as well carry on practising washing up. "Darling, I've finished the washing up again as you asked .. we still have some paper plates don't we ..? lol Another technique is the one I got from Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame).. say yes and do nothing. Empirical evidence leads me to believe that this is considered fairly annoying, and possibly not such a good tactic |
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:38:57 GMT, "PC Paul" wrote:
"Darling, I've finished the washing up again as you asked .. we still have some paper plates don't we ..? lol Another technique is the one I got from Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame).. say yes and do nothing. Oh like the " .. and would you put the bin bag out the front" "Ok" I answer, fully intending to do so before the bin men turn up the next morning .. only to see her struggle past some 10 mins later muttering 'I'll do it myself then shall I ... ". Now I swear she didn't say "within the next ten mins" ... and the bins won't be emptied for another 14 hours! Empirical evidence leads me to believe that this is considered fairly annoying, and possibly not such a good tactic So I found out ... you didn't believe the how I got a sore eye story did you blush ;-( All the best ... Remote T i m (with WiFi laptop in the shed) |
Simon wrote;
Is Cif abrasive ? That could scratch the eye and create day-long symptoms. Yup! Powdered chalk or similar, thats how it does most of it's cleaning. Dave |
"T i m" wrote in message ... Shhhh, Mary could be awake / sober Sober, yes. Until after dinner. Awake, not 100%. An Italian neighbour died in the night and there was much to-ing and fro-ing of an ambulance crew who couldn't get access, police who had to break down her back door security grill (she was paranoid) only to be too late, wailing sons, daughter, grandchildren, assorted spouses and ex spouses, girl-friends, boy friends, partners, hangers on and other Italian neighbours, some of whom have been sworn enemies with the corpse for years. Crikey, how many years had they been dead for goodness sake! Brain dead as long as I've known them. Going on for forty years for the oldest. It caused disturbance from 0430. A.D. I assume? er? I don't know of a 0430 AD. It does make me wonder about over-locking property when you live alone. We don't have any security devices except five lever locks so doors can be hacked down.. Ah, but if any right minded ner-do-well had heard you chastising the spouse I think they may try elsewhere (just to be safe). ;-) I've never chastised him noisily. Silence is a much more effective put-down, didn't you know? These days I can't be bothered chastising anyway, withdrawal of favours is even better. The one that leaves us not being asked to do something next time ;-) "I've done the washing up darling but you know your favourite plate ... " ;-) Well you can only break it once. Might as well carry on practising washing up. "Darling, I've finished the washing up again as you asked .. we still have some paper plates don't we ..? Makes a lot of sense. I'm washing up tonight, it's that time of year. Mary Mary |
"PC Paul" wrote in message o.uk... Another technique is the one I got from Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame).. say yes and do nothing. Empirical evidence leads me to believe that this is considered fairly annoying, and possibly not such a good tactic It's not at all annoying, it's expected. It's certainly not a good tactic. It never works. Mary |
"T i m" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:38:57 GMT, "PC Paul" wrote: "Darling, I've finished the washing up again as you asked .. we still have some paper plates don't we ..? lol Another technique is the one I got from Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame).. say yes and do nothing. Oh like the " .. and would you put the bin bag out the front" "Ok" I answer, fully intending to do so before the bin men turn up the next morning .. only to see her struggle past some 10 mins later muttering 'I'll do it myself then shall I ... ". She needs taking in hand. Send her round here. Mary |
"Richard Polhill" wrote in message ... "Mary Fisher" wrote in . net: The opticians I know (all four of them!) One for each eye? 8-) I'll have you know I havemorethan one pair ofspectacles. I just wish I could remember where they all are ... Mary |
"T i m" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:22:21 +0100, Richard Polhill wrote: "Mary Fisher" wrote in t.net: The opticians I know (all four of them!) One for each eye? 8-) I can picture a pipe and monical Richard ;-) And I gave up smoking on 23 February 1983. Mary T i m |
"T i m" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:04:46 +0100, "Mary Fisher" wrote: I wouldn't use Optrex for anything, what's the point? Erm, to bathe and soothe? In my experience it's no better than plain water - but that's just my experience. The opticians I know (all four of them!) say the same. They are probably right .. as I was away from home would I just lay on my back and wait for rain or go to the Chemist and ask for an eyebath and a cup of water? ;-) I do have some 'artificial tears' which do soothe - but I wouldn't know where to find them in an emergency. Most women I know know exactly where to find their 'artificial tears' in an emergency or otherwise .. usually just after I question the reasoning that 'the clothes sale will save us money" .. ;-) You'd be OK with me in that respect, I don't buy clothes. No I'm NOT a naturist. I hope there's no permanent damage - I don'tsuppose there is. Thanks for the thought .. no, I think things are back to normal (minor macular distortion (wet type) in my left eye and ever shortening arms) ;-) The latter comes with wisdom. smirk And if that comes with age Mary ... ? smirk ;-) Well worked out! I told you they came with wisdom . smirk Mary |
In message , Mary
Fisher writes "T i m" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:38:57 GMT, "PC Paul" wrote: "Darling, I've finished the washing up again as you asked .. we still have some paper plates don't we ..? lol Another technique is the one I got from Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame).. say yes and do nothing. Oh like the " .. and would you put the bin bag out the front" "Ok" I answer, fully intending to do so before the bin men turn up the next morning .. only to see her struggle past some 10 mins later muttering 'I'll do it myself then shall I ... ". She needs taking in hand. Send her round here. Bi ? -- geoff |
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:20:28 GMT, raden wrote:
"Ok" I answer, fully intending to do so before the bin men turn up the next morning .. only to see her struggle past some 10 mins later muttering 'I'll do it myself then shall I ... ". She needs taking in hand. Send her round here. Bi ? T i m ducks |
T i m wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:46:47 GMT, "Peter Andrews" wrote: "T i m" wrote in message . .. On 21 Jul 2005 02:10:04 -0700, wrote: Ok . (I'll stick with glasses for the moment then ) .. If you had your glasses on how did you get it in your eye? Good question Peter. We were cleaning this tall fridge freezer outside my (remote) lockup. We had taken a bucket, sponge, a couple of containers of hot water, Cif, Fairy etc. We had used all the hot water and pretty well finished snip At the time I just wiped my around my eye a bit with a tissue (as I didn't fancy the look of the green water in the water butt) but the discomfort slowly got worse. We finished what we were doing, cleared up and the nearest solution (excuse the pun) on our way home was the Chemist and the Optrex. The solution used in one Friends episode comes to mind. Largely sterile, though not the most popular eye-wash. |
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