Obviously, they're not going to complete with your proper AC unit but
are they any good at all?

B+Q are doing one for =A340 where you stick ice and water in it.

Any better than a plain old fan ?

On 28 Jun 2005 06:53:59 -0700, "paulfoel"
wrote:

Obviously, they're not going to complete with your proper AC unit but
are they any good at all?

B+Q are doing one for =A340 where you stick ice and water in it.

Any better than a plain old fan ?

IME they increase humidity in the air and make things appear even
hotter!

Personally, I'd suggest one of the B&Q 20" box fans is more effective
and better value for money.

sponix

In article ,
says...
Personally, I'd suggest one of the B&Q 20" box fans is more effective
and better value for money.

If you are looking at a room where you can use a ceiling-fan, that's
better still. Ceiling fans are very effective for cooling a room, can
be used to circulate air in winter too, and are easy to install.

--
Hedgehog

paulfoel wrote:
Obviously, they're not going to complete with your proper AC unit but
are they any good at all?

B+Q are doing one for =A340 where you stick ice and water in it.

Any better than a plain old fan ?


They do work, yes, I've used them. But no, they dont compare with ac at
all.

They work primarily by evaporating water. This has a cooling efffect of
4C or so on the air. You need a litle ventilation, not much, so as RH
rises the higher RH air is lost to the outside allowing more
evaporation, which keeps cooling things down.

Expect maybe 3-4C of gain. Nothing huge, but yes on a hot day it makes
all the difference.


However, if youve not spent anything yet, Thing 1 to get would be a
ceiling fan. Less money, more effect. The evaporative cooler would be
one of several secondayry choices.

Dont put ice in it, as making ice releases more heat into the house
than melting it removes.

BTW these evap units will give you no joy on wet damp days, but those
are not normally the hottest ones, so its not a biggie.


NT

On 28 Jun 2005 06:53:59 -0700, paulfoel wrote:

Obviously, they're not going to complete with your proper AC unit
but are they any good at all?

Do you like cool damp air? I remember being in a small hirise type
flat filming, in summer. What with 10+ bodies, the lights and keeping
the windows shut to keep the noise out it got a tad warm. Someone
produced and evaporative air cooler, it blew cool air which was quite
pleasant but after a couple of hours the humidty in the flat must have
been approaching 100%, the place started to drip...

A big slow fan is much better IMHO.

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I'll second this opinion. I lived in Singapore for five years and could not
get used to sleeping with noisey A/C and waking up with a cold. My next
house had big ceiling fans and no A/C.............. just bliss. They are
quiet and did the job.


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I'll second this opinion. I lived in Singapore for five years and could not
get used to sleeping with noisey A/C and waking up with a cold. My next
house had big ceiling fans and no A/C.............. just bliss. They are
quiet and did the job.

And slice those pesky mosquitos at the same time

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s--p--o--n--i--x wrote:

On 28 Jun 2005 06:53:59 -0700, "paulfoel"
wrote:


Obviously, they're not going to complete with your proper AC unit but
are they any good at all?

B+Q are doing one for =A340 where you stick ice and water in it.

Any better than a plain old fan ?


IME they increase humidity in the air and make things appear even
hotter!

Personally, I'd suggest one of the B&Q 20" box fans is more effective
and better value for money.

sponix
Personally, I would not touch anything that buy an spew sell.

Dave

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On 28 Jun 2005 06:53:59 -0700, paulfoel wrote:

Obviously, they're not going to complete with your proper AC unit
but are they any good at all?

Do you like cool damp air? I remember being in a small hirise type
flat filming, in summer. What with 10+ bodies, the lights and keeping
the windows shut to keep the noise out it got a tad warm. Someone
produced and evaporative air cooler, it blew cool air which was quite
pleasant but after a couple of hours the humidty in the flat must have
been approaching 100%, the place started to drip...

A big slow fan is much better IMHO.

I expect you can misuse any type of cooling method.

NT

GlintingHedgehog wrote:
In article ,
says...
Personally, I'd suggest one of the B&Q 20" box fans is more effective
and better value for money.

If you are looking at a room where you can use a ceiling-fan, that's
better still. Ceiling fans are very effective for cooling a room, can
be used to circulate air in winter too, and are easy to install.

--
Hedgehog

Already got a ceiling fan in the bedroom in question.

In article .com,
says...
Already got a ceiling fan in the bedroom in question.

Is it set to spin in the right direction? Most of them go both
directions - one to cool the room, one to redistribute warm air in
winter.

TBH if a ceiling-fan isn't providing adequate cooling, a proper air-
conditioning unit is really the next option.

--
Hedgehog

GlintingHedgehog wrote:
In article .com,
says...
Already got a ceiling fan in the bedroom in question.

Is it set to spin in the right direction? Most of them go both
directions - one to cool the room, one to redistribute warm air in
winter.

TBH if a ceiling-fan isn't providing adequate cooling, a proper air-
conditioning unit is really the next option.


There are lots of options. The simplest is to get a dual thermometer,
mount it so it reads indoor and outdoor temp, and open window when
outdoor is cooler than indoor. Very simple, very cheap, can knock a
good amount of heat out.

In evening and am it cools directly. evening cooling also reduces the
temp of the house brickwork, which in turn gives cooling thru the hot
afternoons.

Nother good idea is shading with deciduous climbers. There are lots of
options. AC is the no brain option: plug it in, it works, no thinking
is required. But its one of the last options Id pick myself. All the
others cost either nothing or almost nothing to run.


NT

Steve Firth wrote:

Not really, and British prices are a complete sodding rip-off. Proper
aircon for self-install costs just EUR 167 for a 2.4kW unit at
Castorama. Castorama *is* B&Q, right down to the Performance Pro tools,
which are also cheaper there.


Voila.

http://www.castorama.fr/boutique/spe...=Ca stofrais1

300E seems the cheapest, unless the on-line prices are more than
in-store. Maybe someone who knows more than 2 words of French can find
a cheaper one on the site.

ecco!

http://produzione.castorama.ebs.dada...fissi_2289.pdf

500 euros seems to be the cheapest.Maybe someone who etc..

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:31:52 +0100, wrote:

On 12 Jul,
"Aidan" wrote:



Steve Firth wrote:

Not really, and British prices are a complete sodding rip-off. Proper
aircon for self-install costs just EUR 167 for a 2.4kW unit at
Castorama. Castorama *is* B&Q, right down to the Performance Pro tools,
which are also cheaper there.


Voila.

http://www.castorama.fr/boutique/spe...=Ca stofrais1

300E seems the cheapest, unless the on-line prices are more than in-store.
Maybe someone who knows more than 2 words of French can find a cheaper one
on the site.

I think I could negotiate the site. Do you think they'll deliver to UK? I
assume no custon the EU, but is it VAT inc.


You would pay French VAT as an end customer but I am pretty sure that
this is included in pricing at a retailer, as it is here.

It would probably be cheaper overall to take a day trip on Eurotunnel
and go and buy one in the store in Calais or close by.



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