Thanks for the response guys, you will notice that your helpful posts will
not be deleted from the forum, nor will they be ridiculed and flamed. The
professional people who began the forum believe in freedom of speech.

Thanx again

Electricians Forum
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 09:03:01 +0100, "ElectriciansForum"
wrote:

Thanks for the response guys, you will notice that your helpful posts will
not be deleted from the forum, nor will they be ridiculed and flamed. The
professional people who began the forum believe in freedom of speech.

Thanx again

Electricians Forum

Please stop repeatedly spamming your website. We saw it the first time.

Andy,
come have a look u might learn something, what u scared of ?
forums are not commercial, grow up

--

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 09:03:01 +0100, "ElectriciansForum"
wrote:

Thanks for the response guys, you will notice that your helpful posts will
not be deleted from the forum, nor will they be ridiculed and flamed. The
professional people who began the forum believe in freedom of speech.

Thanx again

Electricians Forum

Please stop repeatedly spamming your website. We saw it the first time.

Ellis Greensitt wrote:
Andy,
come have a look u might learn something, what u scared of ?
forums are not commercial, grow up


It's anoying though, if you want to promote a website why not
be helpful in this forum and put it in your sig. It's not just
here this person is advertising his site, it's on other DIY
and commercial forums to.

--
Regards,
Aaron.

Ok Aaron,

I think its a crap Forum at Supplychain

Happy now ?

Ellis Greensitt
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php


--

"Aaron" wrote in message
. uk...
Ellis Greensitt wrote:
Andy,
come have a look u might learn something, what u scared of ?
forums are not commercial, grow up


It's anoying though, if you want to promote a website why not
be helpful in this forum and put it in your sig. It's not just
here this person is advertising his site, it's on other DIY
and commercial forums to.

--
Regards,
Aaron.

Your attitude is not helping the corporate image...

Ellis Greensitt wrote:
Ok Aaron,

I think its a crap Forum at Supplychain

Happy now ?

Ellis Greensitt
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php



It's only as crap as you make it, my personal preference is UK.d-i-y
since I don't have to signup or hand my details over to a company who
is essentially also functioning as a business. Furthermore lots of
advertising I've seen for supplychain's forum has been based on pointing
out negative facts about already well established sources of help for
the DIY public. Remember this these forums are free-for-all and you
should just be thick skinned enough to ignore the crap and make use of
the helpful information.

Fair enough you get your share of people who are unhelpful on here, but
you also get a lot of idiots who either refuse help and are just
downright stupid and dangerous and shouldn't be allowed anyway near a AA
battery let alone mains electrics. People like that get unhelpful,
sarcastic and rude replies because they need them to prevent them from
killing themselves! It's not that people are being snooty purposely...
Unless of course you are one who refuses to search archives and as such
don't get particuarly helpful replies because the same questions are
being asked every week.

To be hounest it's just the same as life, if you want to do something
dangerous someone will always tell you. If you are being anoying people
will ignore you and/or be sarcastic.

Dunno, plug your forums as much as you like but don't through your toys
out of the basket when someone gets fed up of your plugging and/or has
a bad opinion of your forum. It's just childish.

--
Regards,
Aaron.

In message , Ellis Greensitt
writes
Ok Aaron,

I think its a crap Forum at Supplychain

Happy now ?

Ellis Greensitt
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

It's certainly an oasis in an overpopulated world

--
geoff

"Ellis Greensitt" wrote in message
...
Ok Aaron,

I think its a crap Forum at Supplychain


I agree with you.

On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:02:25 +0100, "Ellis Greensitt"
wrote:

come have a look u might learn something, what u scared of ?

What is this word "u" ? Is it from Mars, where you originate
from perhaps ?

forums are not commercial, grow up

Yours clearly _is_ commercial - it's a blatant plug for your business.
You're also a spammer, and you edit postings placed on your site.


Why not just save us _all_ a load of trouble and leave now ? It's
hardly likely to reflect well on your board, your business or your
spamming is it ?

Andy,
What we trying to achieve is quite simply a forum for electricians. Whats
wrong with that ? We are looking for influential people to help us achieve
this but not at the expense of this newgroup. Why are you so defensive ?
Why not come along and help with some interesting debate.

Warmest Regards
Ellis

--

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:02:25 +0100, "Ellis Greensitt"
wrote:

come have a look u might learn something, what u scared of ?

What is this word "u" ? Is it from Mars, where you originate
from perhaps ?

forums are not commercial, grow up

Yours clearly _is_ commercial - it's a blatant plug for your business.
You're also a spammer, and you edit postings placed on your site.


Why not just save us _all_ a load of trouble and leave now ? It's
hardly likely to reflect well on your board, your business or your
spamming is it ?

Ellis Greensitt wrote:
Andy,
What we trying to achieve is quite simply a forum for
electricians. Whats wrong with that ? We are looking for
influential people to help us achieve this but not at the expense
of this newgroup. Why are you so defensive ? Why not come along
and help with some interesting debate.

Go away.

In message , Andy Dingley
writes
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:02:25 +0100, "Ellis Greensitt"
wrote:

come have a look u might learn something, what u scared of ?

What is this word "u" ? Is it from Mars, where you originate
from perhaps ?

forums are not commercial, grow up

Yours clearly _is_ commercial - it's a blatant plug for your business.
You're also a spammer, and you edit postings placed on your site.


Why not just save us _all_ a load of trouble and leave now ? It's
hardly likely to reflect well on your board, your business or your
spamming is it ?

And you're just digging yourself a hole here and you really aren't
getting anywhere, are you

Just give us the £50


--
geoff

ElectriciansForum wrote:
Thanks for the response guys, you will notice that your helpful posts will
not be deleted from the forum, nor will they be ridiculed and flamed. The
professional people who began the forum believe in freedom of speech.

Ah yes, free speech. Spammers *love* to tell us all about the virtues of
free speech. Particularly when 'free' means 'at not/negligible cost to
the sender'; regardless of the costs to the recipients in time,
attention, storage, signal-to-noise. Where 'free' - to the sender -
means leeching off the accumulated social capital of established
networks of interest, and/or technical means of communication.

Any similarity between the crude actions of email spammers, and those
who pop up in established fora saying - not just the once, but
repeatedly - 'hey! pipple! look over there! it's new! it's whizzy! it's
got HTML and PHP and all sortsa stuff! you're gonna love it!' - is left
as an exercise for the reader...

Stefek

On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:03:01 UTC, "ElectriciansForum"
wrote:

Thanks for the response guys, you will notice that your helpful posts will
not be deleted from the forum, nor will they be ridiculed and flamed. The
professional people who began the forum believe in freedom of speech.

This is the same "free speech" outfit that edited my reply to "What is
the best forum for electrcians?"...

I wrote "Well, uk.d-i-y, obviously"

It now reads "Well, here, obviously".

This is a meaning of the words "free speech" that I haven't encountered
recently. Used to be common in the Siviet Union, I believe.

Bob,
You came to the Electricians Forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php
with the sole purpose of attempting to spoil a good thing.
You are a narrow minded idiot and are not representative of the other users
of this newsgroup.

As for the Siviet Union ? is that somewhere on Mars, where you originate
from perhaps.

--


"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:03:01 UTC, "ElectriciansForum"
wrote:

Thanks for the response guys, you will notice that your helpful posts
will
not be deleted from the forum, nor will they be ridiculed and flamed. The
professional people who began the forum believe in freedom of speech.

This is the same "free speech" outfit that edited my reply to "What is
the best forum for electrcians?"...

I wrote "Well, uk.d-i-y, obviously"

It now reads "Well, here, obviously".

This is a meaning of the words "free speech" that I haven't encountered
recently. Used to be common in the Siviet Union, I believe.

Ellis Greensitt wrote:
Bob,
You came to the Electricians Forum at
with the sole purpose of attempting to spoil a good thing.
You are a narrow minded idiot and are not representative of the other users
of this newsgroup.

And this is precisely how spamming ****wits such as yourself always
screw up. You join a ng, and within 5 minutes of joining you start
calling long-established, very well respected members of the group
"narrow minded idiots". Think about it for a minute - how far will this
get you?


--
Grunff

Grunff,
You belong to the same deficient gene-pool as Bob.
Dont come again to our forum at http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

You have nothing to offer.


"Grunff" wrote in message
...
Ellis Greensitt wrote:
Bob,
You came to the Electricians Forum at with the sole purpose of attempting
to spoil a good thing.
You are a narrow minded idiot and are not representative of the other
users of this newsgroup.

And this is precisely how spamming ****wits such as yourself always screw
up. You join a ng, and within 5 minutes of joining you start calling
long-established, very well respected members of the group "narrow minded
idiots". Think about it for a minute - how far will this get you?


--
Grunff

On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 16:54:16 UTC, "Ellis Greensitt"
wrote:

Grunff,
You belong to the same deficient gene-pool as Bob.
Dont come again to our forum at http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

The last refuge - ad hominem attacks. At least no-one stops you saying
things here - unlike your censored forum.

What a mistake that was...

In message , Grunff
writes
Ellis Greensitt wrote:
Bob,
You came to the Electricians Forum at with the sole purpose of
attempting to spoil a good thing.
You are a narrow minded idiot and are not representative of the other
users of this newsgroup.

And this is precisely how spamming ****wits such as yourself always
screw up. You join a ng, and within 5 minutes of joining you start
calling long-established, very well respected members of the group
"narrow minded idiots". Think about it for a minute - how far will this
get you?

I suggest having a word with his ISP if he advertises here again after
changing anybody else's response

--
geoff

On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 16:44:27 UTC, "Ellis Greensitt"
wrote:

Bob,
You came to the Electricians Forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php
with the sole purpose of attempting to spoil a good thing.
You are a narrow minded idiot and are not representative of the other users
of this newsgroup.

So....you admit that you don't practise free speech on your forum at
all? You change things to suit yourself?

This makes the forum completely and utterly untrustworthy. Opinions that
don't fit are not just deleted - they are altered to fit the
management's view.

Bob,
Think your getting a little confused.
Our users are free to post their views on our forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

I think you maybe got a little mistaken, perhaps a lie down is in order.

Its clear that you and some other likeminded cretins joined the forum with
the sole purpose of disrupting it. You wont disrupt it because your not
intelligent enough to be taken seriously.

You should stay here in Kindergarten with your buddies. They know who I
mean.

--
Ellis Greensitt
Supplychain(Doncaster) Ltd.

www.supplychain.org.uk
01302 761205 : Tel
01302 761206 : Fax
"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 16:44:27 UTC, "Ellis Greensitt"
wrote:

Bob,
You came to the Electricians Forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php
with the sole purpose of attempting to spoil a good thing.
You are a narrow minded idiot and are not representative of the other
users
of this newsgroup.

So....you admit that you don't practise free speech on your forum at
all? You change things to suit yourself?

This makes the forum completely and utterly untrustworthy. Opinions that
don't fit are not just deleted - they are altered to fit the
management's view.

On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 17:09:02 UTC, "Ellis Greensitt"
wrote:

Think your getting a little confused.

Not at all. And as you wanted to criticise my typo, I'll mention your
misuse of the word 'your' above.

Our users are free to post their views on our forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

I posted, and I wasn't free to do so. My views were changed and
censored. You have admitted that.

I notice that you like to plug the URL in every reply. I'm leaving it
there so that, for posterity, people will know that supplychain is
synonymous with censorship.

Its clear that you and some other likeminded cretins joined the forum with
the sole purpose of disrupting it. You wont disrupt it because your not
intelligent enough to be taken seriously.

Once, again, ad hominem is all you can manage. No reasoned reply.

In message , Ellis Greensitt
writes
Bob,
Think your getting a little confused.
Our users are free to post their views on our forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

I think you maybe got a little mistaken, perhaps a lie down is in order.

Its clear that you and some other likeminded cretins joined the forum with
the sole purpose of disrupting it. You wont disrupt it because your not
intelligent enough to be taken seriously.

You should stay here in Kindergarten with your buddies. They know who I
mean.

Ooh, we're getting a bit rattled now, aren't we ...

--
geoff

In message , Ellis Greensitt
writes
Bob,
You came to the Electricians Forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php
with the sole purpose of attempting to spoil a good thing.
You are a narrow minded idiot and are not representative of the other users
of this newsgroup.

Load of ******** - we're after the £50 simple as that

Claiming to promote free speech and then completely change someone's
post is totally unacceptable

It's his right in to say what he thinks in your forum if you claim to
maintain the right to free speech

--
geoff

The £50.00 is available to the author of the most popular topic, you dont
seem that popular ? sorry.
Maybe you should try posting something interesting instead of masaging the
egos of your little rebellion.
Good Luck
Ellis
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php


--

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , Ellis Greensitt
writes
Bob,
You came to the Electricians Forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php
with the sole purpose of attempting to spoil a good thing.
You are a narrow minded idiot and are not representative of the other
users
of this newsgroup.

Load of ******** - we're after the £50 simple as that

Claiming to promote free speech and then completely change someone's post
is totally unacceptable

It's his right in to say what he thinks in your forum if you claim to
maintain the right to free speech

--
geoff

In message , Ellis Greensitt
writes
The £50.00 is available to the author of the most popular topic, you dont
seem that popular ? sorry.

We're working on it

unless, of course, you massage the results

Maybe you should try posting something interesting instead of masaging the
egos of your little rebellion.

Rebellion ?

ha ha

Your forum is ****ing empty mate

--
geoff

Ellis Greensitt wrote:
Bob,
You came to the Electricians Forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php
with the sole purpose of attempting to spoil a good thing.

But you came here and invited us!!

Owain

You were invited to offer some intelligent debate, you know what you did.
Dont make me embarrass you by mentioning here in your secure environment.
Come along and post something useable please ?

No hard feelings

Ellis

--
"Owain" wrote in message
...
Ellis Greensitt wrote:
Bob,
You came to the Electricians Forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php
with the sole purpose of attempting to spoil a good thing.

But you came here and invited us!!

Owain

In message , Ellis Greensitt
writes
You were invited to offer some intelligent debate, you know what you did.
Dont make me embarrass you by mentioning here in your secure environment.
Come along and post something useable please ?

No hard feelings

Sort out your sig sep, there's a good spam monkey

--
geoff

Ellis Greensitt wrote:
"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:03:01 UTC, "ElectriciansForum"
wrote:

Thanks for the response guys, you will notice that your helpful
posts willnot be deleted from the forum, nor will they be ridiculed and
flamed. The professional people who began the forum believe in
freedom of speech.

This is the same "free speech" outfit that edited my reply to
"What is the best forum for electrcians?"...

I wrote "Well, uk.d-i-y, obviously"

It now reads "Well, here, obviously".

This is a meaning of the words "free speech" that I haven't
encountered recently. Used to be common in the Siviet Union, I
believe.

Bob,
You came to the Electricians Forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php
with the sole purpose of attempting to spoil a good thing.
You are a narrow minded idiot and are not representative of the
other users of this newsgroup.

So you admit that you lied in your first claim that posts are not interfered
with, and you admit that the forum has been forging false endorsements from
well-respected people like Bob Eager? You openly abuse people, and you
spam your top-posted tripe into our newsgroup.

Well, Mr Ellis Greensitt, Managing Director, Supplychain (Doncaster) Ltd,
you're doing a fine job of destroying whatever reputation your company
previously held. I wonder how much this ill-advised adventure will cost
you and your shareholders?

ElectriciansForum wrote:
Thanks for the response guys, you will notice that your helpful posts
will
not be deleted from the forum, nor will they be ridiculed and flamed.
The
professional people who began the forum believe in freedom of speech.

You know, I'm beginning to feel some sympathy for you, having let that
'professional' word roll around my head on and off during the day.

I wonder if you haven't handed over plenty of folding notes to a Web
Presence Company, who've filled you with promises about 'creating a
state-of-the art web presence with pan-national reach,
professional-quality graphics, and an interactive forum, to which we
will drive traffic through a combined-media strategy reaching out to
communities of interest which we, as Internet professionals of several
years standing, have a unique insight into'. (Most of those
twaddle-merchants went rapidly out of business when the .com bubble
burst; but maybe there's still a few trading up in Doncaster?)

For your money, you got a Macromedia Flash front-page (slowing down site
entry for all - did you ever wonder why Google keep their page so
stripped-down) which plays a Really Serious Corporate tune all the time,
but makes *you* feel good 'cuz it's got your company logo coming into
view in a Dramatic And Exciting Visual Metaphor (hello? *you're* not the
customer for the website, it's the paying punter - but you *are* the
customer for the Web Presence Company, of course); a discussion forum
which they may've charged you an arm and a leg for, but is freeware
(phpBB); and sent you off to drum up traffic in person (on the Victor
Kiam principle) without cluing you in to Usenet culture at all.

I'd say you've been had...

Stefek

In message , Stefek Zaba
wrote

For your money, you got a Macromedia Flash front-page (slowing down
site entry for all

Assuming everyone had downloaded the Flash plug-in for their browser.
It doesn't work with the latest version of Opera apart from the link to
the free beta version of the Supplychain counter
which shows the hits as:

Report for "http://www.supplychain.org.uk/index.html"

Visitors since 11-Apr-2005 : 2836
NETHERLANDS = 2752
Unknown = 41
USA = 40
INDIA = 1
AUSTRALIA = 1
FRANCE = 1

The site is aimed only at broadband users using the latest Microsoft
browser. It is a typical site designed by someone who doesn't really
need real customers to use it.

For a professional UK trading company having a org.uk domain is not
sensible. Even if people remember the name Supplychain they would guess
at the domain being either co.uk or com and give up if these two don't
work.
--
Alan

Thanks Alan,

Constructive criticism I can handle. Your comments are much appreciated and
I intend to act on them.
Thanks again

--
Ellis Greensitt
Supplychain(Doncaster) Ltd.

www.supplychain.org.uk
01302 761205 : Tel
01302 761206 : Fax
"Alan" wrote in message
...
In message , Stefek Zaba
wrote

For your money, you got a Macromedia Flash front-page (slowing down site
entry for all

Assuming everyone had downloaded the Flash plug-in for their browser. It
doesn't work with the latest version of Opera apart from the link to the
free beta version of the Supplychain counter
which shows the hits as:

Report for "http://www.supplychain.org.uk/index.html"

Visitors since 11-Apr-2005 : 2836
NETHERLANDS = 2752
Unknown = 41
USA = 40
INDIA = 1
AUSTRALIA = 1
FRANCE = 1

The site is aimed only at broadband users using the latest Microsoft
browser. It is a typical site designed by someone who doesn't really need
real customers to use it.

For a professional UK trading company having a org.uk domain is not
sensible. Even if people remember the name Supplychain they would guess at
the domain being either co.uk or com and give up if these two don't work.
--
Alan

In message , Ellis Greensitt
writes
Thanks Alan,

Constructive criticism I can handle. Your comments are much appreciated and
I intend to act on them.
Thanks again


And get that sig sep sorted out

very simple dash dash space ("-- ")

so I don't have to see the likes of:

"
--
Ellis Greensitt
Supplychain(Doncaster) Ltd.

www.supplychain.org.uk
01302 761205 : Tel
01302 761206 : Fax
"Alan" wrote in message
...
In message , Stefek Zaba
wrote

For your money, you got a Macromedia Flash front-page (slowing down
site
entry for all

Assuming everyone had downloaded the Flash plug-in for their browser.
It
doesn't work with the latest version of Opera apart from the link to
the
free beta version of the Supplychain counter
which shows the hits as:

Report for "http://www.supplychain.org.uk/index.html"

Visitors since 11-Apr-2005 : 2836
NETHERLANDS = 2752
Unknown = 41
USA = 40
INDIA = 1
AUSTRALIA = 1
FRANCE = 1

The site is aimed only at broadband users using the latest Microsoft
browser. It is a typical site designed by someone who doesn't really
need
real customers to use it.

For a professional UK trading company having a org.uk domain is not
sensible. Even if people remember the name Supplychain they would
guess at
the domain being either co.uk or com and give up if these two don't
work.
--
Alan
"





--
geoff

Well funny how things turn out, I started the day wondering if anyone on
this newsgroup would like to contribute to the forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

It caused outrage amongst some paranoid users who were horrified that I had
dared to mention another forum on their precious newsgroup. They decided
that they were mighty enough to invade the forum and try to destroy it with
childish postings. They called me names, they pulled my spelling.

But, thanks to their gritty determination, weve had an amazing response,
they have actually promoted the forum unwittingly.

I would just like to thank you guys, youve helped us on our way. A job well
done.

Im off to bed now with a huge smile.

Thanks again, feel free to keep it up tommorrow.



--
Ellis Greensitt
Supplychain(Doncaster) Ltd.

www.supplychain.org.uk
01302 761205 : Tel
01302 761206 : Fax
"ElectriciansForum" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the response guys, you will notice that your helpful posts will
not be deleted from the forum, nor will they be ridiculed and flamed. The
professional people who began the forum believe in freedom of speech.

Thanx again

Electricians Forum
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

Ellis Greensitt wrote:
Well funny how things turn out, I started the day wondering if
anyone on this newsgroup would like to contribute to the forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

It caused outrage amongst some paranoid users who were horrified
that I had dared to mention another forum on their precious
newsgroup. They decided that they were mighty enough to invade
the forum and try to destroy it with childish postings. They
called me names, they pulled my spelling.
But, thanks to their gritty determination, weve had an amazing
response, they have actually promoted the forum unwittingly.

I would just like to thank you guys, youve helped us on our way.
A job well done.

Im off to bed now with a huge smile.

That's odd, because according to your naff little forum, you are currently
the sole user online. Truly an amazing response.

In message , Steve Walker
writes
Ellis Greensitt wrote:
Well funny how things turn out, I started the day wondering if
anyone on this newsgroup would like to contribute to the forum at
http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

It caused outrage amongst some paranoid users who were horrified
that I had dared to mention another forum on their precious
newsgroup. They decided that they were mighty enough to invade
the forum and try to destroy it with childish postings. They
called me names, they pulled my spelling.
But, thanks to their gritty determination, weve had an amazing
response, they have actually promoted the forum unwittingly.

I would just like to thank you guys, youve helped us on our way.
A job well done.

Im off to bed now with a huge smile.

That's odd, because according to your naff little forum, you are currently
the sole user online. Truly an amazing response.

No, c'mon. There was him, nosheds (or whoever) and fireworks (who has
just left the forum - he has better things to do than hang around in an
empty draughty room)

--
geoff

On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:13:44 UTC, raden wrote:

Im off to bed now with a huge smile.

That's odd, because according to your naff little forum, you are currently
the sole user online. Truly an amazing response.

No, c'mon. There was him, nosheds (or whoever) and fireworks (who has
just left the forum - he has better things to do than hang around in an
empty draughty room)

The latest is even funnier. He is now trying to claim that the
replacement of the word 'uk.d-i-y' with the word 'here' was due to a PHP
error!

In message , Bob Eager
writes
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:13:44 UTC, raden wrote:

Im off to bed now with a huge smile.

That's odd, because according to your naff little forum, you are currently
the sole user online. Truly an amazing response.

No, c'mon. There was him, nosheds (or whoever) and fireworks (who has
just left the forum - he has better things to do than hang around in an
empty draughty room)

The latest is even funnier. He is now trying to claim that the
replacement of the word 'uk.d-i-y' with the word 'here' was due to a PHP
error!

Yes - that's the point at which I gave up

--
geoff