Hi,

I have a pair of shoes, one of which has the upper coming detached from
the sole unit. They are quite serviceable and also comfortable so I'd
like to save them if possible.
I've tried various glues (EvoStik, No More Nails, Hot glue, Some other
HD glue from a DIY superstore, etc....) but nothing seems to last.

The thing is, if they can't be glued, well fair enough I'll chuck them.
It seems to me, though, that the were glued together when they were
made, so why can't they be re-glued? Any thoughts?
Have I just not tried the right glue yet, or is there more to it than that?

An American site recommends a glue called 'Barges' for shoes, but I
don't know if it's available in the UK. I've not seen it anyway.

These shoes are a leather upper glued to a rubber compound sole unit.
The inside of the sole unit (as seen when it's coming off) is a kind of
'egg-box' structure. No sewing appears to have been used in their
construction.

Thanks in advance. John

"John Fryatt" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have a pair of shoes, one of which has the upper coming detached from
the sole unit. They are quite serviceable and also comfortable so I'd
like to save them if possible.
I've tried various glues (EvoStik, No More Nails, Hot glue, Some other
HD glue from a DIY superstore, etc....) but nothing seems to last.

The thing is, if they can't be glued, well fair enough I'll chuck them.
It seems to me, though, that the were glued together when they were
made, so why can't they be re-glued? Any thoughts?
Have I just not tried the right glue yet, or is there more to it than
that?

An American site recommends a glue called 'Barges' for shoes, but I
don't know if it's available in the UK. I've not seen it anyway.

These shoes are a leather upper glued to a rubber compound sole unit.
The inside of the sole unit (as seen when it's coming off) is a kind of
'egg-box' structure. No sewing appears to have been used in their
construction.

Thanks in advance. John

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Black Bostik should do it but you could also look for 'Shoe goo' in a sports
shop. Clean and abrade both surfaces before gluing.

Cic.

On Wed, 25 May 2005 19:34:32 GMT, John Fryatt wrote:

I have a pair of shoes, one of which has the upper coming detached from
the sole unit.

It depends what they're made of. If leather, Evo-stik 528 is best (green
and white tins). If they're synthetic (even just one part), then a soft
polyurethane like "Barge Cement" is the stuff. You may also see this as
"Shoe Goo". Usually the easiest way to find it is either sold alongside
replacement soles, or as a kit with some soles which you then ignore (or
use). When they used to be useful I'd have suggested Woolies, but these
days try Wilkos, or even a cobbler.

It's very hard to get a reliable repair though. Good cleaning is
important, plus proper "contact cement" pre-drying and then a damn good
hammering over the welt with either a cobbler's hammer or a wide
cross-pein hammer.

Andy Dingley wrote:
.

It's very hard to get a reliable repair though. Good cleaning is
important, plus proper "contact cement" pre-drying and then a damn
good hammering over the welt with either a cobbler's hammer or a wide
cross-pein hammer.

My dad was a traditional cobbler - you describe the method correctly.

pk

"John Fryatt" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have a pair of shoes, one of which has the upper coming detached
from
the sole unit. They are quite serviceable and also comfortable so
I'd
like to save them if possible.
I've tried various glues (EvoStik, No More Nails, Hot glue, Some
other
HD glue from a DIY superstore, etc....) but nothing seems to last.

The thing is, if they can't be glued, well fair enough I'll chuck
them.
It seems to me, though, that the were glued together when they were
made, so why can't they be re-glued? Any thoughts?
Have I just not tried the right glue yet, or is there more to it
than that?

An American site recommends a glue called 'Barges' for shoes, but I
don't know if it's available in the UK. I've not seen it anyway.

These shoes are a leather upper glued to a rubber compound sole
unit.
The inside of the sole unit (as seen when it's coming off) is a kind
of
'egg-box' structure. No sewing appears to have been used in their
construction.

Thanks in advance. John

Ah BUT !!!! Although they were originally glued that glue has failed
so just maybe the traditional stiching is a more reliable method?

AWEM

Andrew Mawson wrote:

Ah BUT !!!! Although they were originally glued that glue has failed
so just maybe the traditional stiching is a more reliable method?

This is true. I am more conscious of this issue now, and try to get
better shoes which are stitched. I expect gluing is favoured by makers
because a) it is cheaper for them, and b) the shoes come apart and you
buy more shoes!

c.f. The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy and the 'Shoe Event Horizon'. ;-)

It would still be useful to know about gluing though, so I can get a bit
more use out of said shoes and for various future uses.

John

John Fryatt wrote:
Hi,

I have a pair of shoes, one of which has the upper coming detached from
the sole unit. They are quite serviceable and also comfortable so I'd
like to save them if possible.
I've tried various glues (EvoStik, No More Nails, Hot glue, Some other
HD glue from a DIY superstore, etc....) but nothing seems to last.

The thing is, if they can't be glued, well fair enough I'll chuck them.
It seems to me, though, that the were glued together when they were
made, so why can't they be re-glued? Any thoughts?
Have I just not tried the right glue yet, or is there more to it than that?

An American site recommends a glue called 'Barges' for shoes, but I
don't know if it's available in the UK. I've not seen it anyway.

These shoes are a leather upper glued to a rubber compound sole unit.
The inside of the sole unit (as seen when it's coming off) is a kind of
'egg-box' structure. No sewing appears to have been used in their
construction.

Thanks in advance. John

Ok, thanks to everyone. Something for me to try there.

Balck Bostik
Shoe Goo
Evostik 528
Barge cement

Now I have to find 'em, and NOT in gallon buckets!

Thanks all.

In message , John Fryatt
writes
John Fryatt wrote:
Hi,
I have a pair of shoes, one of which has the upper coming detached
from the sole unit. They are quite serviceable and also comfortable
so I'd like to save them if possible.
I've tried various glues (EvoStik, No More Nails, Hot glue, Some
other HD glue from a DIY superstore, etc....) but nothing seems to
last.
The thing is, if they can't be glued, well fair enough I'll chuck
them. It seems to me, though, that the were glued together when they
were made, so why can't they be re-glued? Any thoughts?
Have I just not tried the right glue yet, or is there more to it than that?
An American site recommends a glue called 'Barges' for shoes, but I
don't know if it's available in the UK. I've not seen it anyway.
These shoes are a leather upper glued to a rubber compound sole
unit. The inside of the sole unit (as seen when it's coming off) is a
kind of 'egg-box' structure. No sewing appears to have been used in
their construction.
Thanks in advance. John

Ok, thanks to everyone. Something for me to try there.

Balck Bostik
Shoe Goo
Evostik 528
Barge cement

Now I have to find 'em, and NOT in gallon buckets!

I've not been following this so I might be repeating what someone else
has said, but

Clean and roughen both surfaces really well if you want decent adhesion

--
geoff

John Fryatt wrote:
Hi,

I have a pair of shoes, one of which has the upper coming detached from
the sole unit. They are quite serviceable and also comfortable so I'd
like to save them if possible.
I've tried various glues (EvoStik, No More Nails, Hot glue, Some other
HD glue from a DIY superstore, etc....) but nothing seems to last.

The thing is, if they can't be glued, well fair enough I'll chuck them.
It seems to me, though, that the were glued together when they were
made, so why can't they be re-glued? Any thoughts?
Have I just not tried the right glue yet, or is there more to it than that?

An American site recommends a glue called 'Barges' for shoes, but I
don't know if it's available in the UK. I've not seen it anyway.

These shoes are a leather upper glued to a rubber compound sole unit.
The inside of the sole unit (as seen when it's coming off) is a kind of
'egg-box' structure. No sewing appears to have been used in their
construction.

Thanks in advance. John

I've had quite a bit of success with ordinary super glue in the past
(which you can pick up for 10p a tube now). If the upper and sole are
leather it's fantastic as super glue bonds particularly well to leather
if the sole is rubber it's not so good but the job is done in 2 minutes
and generally lasts for a few months.

What I found though was that once the rubber sole had started failing it
just kept pulling away now matter how well it was glued and eventually
there was nothing left to glue to (I kept a good pair of boots going for
nearly 2 years!). The rubber just seems to go powdery as it breaks down
making it unsuitable for glueing.

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