Hi,

I'm in the process of turning an old unused outdoor swimming pool into
a little studio; in order to deaden the sound, I've bought carpet tiles
(good quality ones) to place on the walls and wooden ceiling. What
would be the best adhesive to use? (I've got about 60 square metres to
cover.) I've heard thick wallpaper paste might do the trick? Any
suggestions welcome!

Thanks in advance,

Nate

On 11 May 2005 07:06:04 -0700, "Nate" wrote:

Hi,

I'm in the process of turning an old unused outdoor swimming pool into
a little studio; in order to deaden the sound, I've bought carpet tiles
(good quality ones) to place on the walls and wooden ceiling. What
would be the best adhesive to use? (I've got about 60 square metres to
cover.) I've heard thick wallpaper paste might do the trick? Any
suggestions welcome!

Contact adhesive?

On 11 May 2005 07:06:04 -0700, "Nate" babbled
like a waterfall and said:

Hi,

I'm in the process of turning an old unused outdoor swimming pool into
a little studio; in order to deaden the sound, I've bought carpet tiles
(good quality ones) to place on the walls and wooden ceiling. What
would be the best adhesive to use? (I've got about 60 square metres to
cover.) I've heard thick wallpaper paste might do the trick? Any
suggestions welcome!

Thanks in advance,

Nate

With that lot a good contact adhesive is probably your best option.
One of those ones where you coat both sides and stick it up. You
probably wouldn't have to cover the whole surface, say the edges and a
blob in the middle.

I would investigate using a trade one if you have a supplier near to
you.

That's great - cheers for that!

Nate

Thanks

On 11 May 2005 07:26:20 -0700, "Nate" babbled
like a waterfall and said:

That's great - cheers for that!

Nate

I used one last year and have just been to see if I still have it, but
it appears to have been *tidied* up.

It was a large anonymous tub of water based adhesive that was like a
water based Bostik. It want on very thinly with a brush, didn't have a
great vapour to kill you, set in 5 minutes and set for life.

It had a funny name, something like a G10 or G11 adhesive.

Nate wrote:

I'm in the process of turning an old unused outdoor swimming pool into
a little studio; in order to deaden the sound, I've bought carpet tiles
(good quality ones) to place on the walls and wooden ceiling. What
would be the best adhesive to use? (I've got about 60 square metres to
cover.) I've heard thick wallpaper paste might do the trick? Any
suggestions welcome!

IANAE at all, but if you're going to all that trouble, isn't there a
more conventional and effective material you can use instead of carpet
tiles? Plenty of sound experts in this group...!

David

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Lobster wrote:

Nate wrote:

I'm in the process of turning an old unused outdoor swimming pool into
a little studio; in order to deaden the sound, I've bought carpet tiles
(good quality ones) to place on the walls and wooden ceiling. What
would be the best adhesive to use? (I've got about 60 square metres to
cover.) I've heard thick wallpaper paste might do the trick? Any
suggestions welcome!

IANAE at all, but if you're going to all that trouble, isn't there a
more conventional and effective material you can use instead of carpet
tiles? Plenty of sound experts in this group...!

Not at that price I suspect[*], but then again I'd have been tempted to
hang a load of *really* heavy curtains rather than carpet - not being
attached to a solid wall, and not forming a flat surface they might do a
better job.
[*]Studiospares "Econotile" 75mm deep heavy (40kg/m3) foam wall tile,
500mm x 500mm, £8.35 each or £6.75 each if you buy 50+ (and various
points in between). This is effectively their cheapest proper accoustic
treatment; prices only go up from here.

To completely cover 60m2 (you may get away with less) you'd be looking
at 240 tiles (assuming no wastage) which works out at £1,620.

Ooh, actually, just spoted the "Acousticheck" tile at £6.29ea or £5.19
for 50+. £1245.60, but they're much thinner and less dense.

http://www.studiospares.com/

Hwyl!

M.

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Nate wrote:

Hi,

I'm in the process of turning an old unused outdoor swimming pool into
a little studio; in order to deaden the sound, I've bought carpet tiles
(good quality ones) to place on the walls and wooden ceiling. What
would be the best adhesive to use? (I've got about 60 square metres to
cover.) I've heard thick wallpaper paste might do the trick? Any
suggestions welcome!

Thanks in advance,

Nate

Eviostik spirit based contact, or any glue that is specified for cork tiles.

Hi Martin, thanks for replying. Yeah, my carpet tiles were less than
60p each (I think I got lucky), I know they're not going to be up to
the task of proper acoustic tiles - it's not within my budget to do
things 'properly'.
Plus, I've used (much cheaper) carpet tiles before in a different
mini-studio, and they were fine.

Nate

In message .com,
"Nate" wrote:

Hi Martin, thanks for replying. Yeah, my carpet tiles were less than
60p each (I think I got lucky), I know they're not going to be up to
the task of proper acoustic tiles - it's not within my budget to do
things 'properly'.
Plus, I've used (much cheaper) carpet tiles before in a different
mini-studio, and they were fine.


Which (in a roundabout way) was what I was trying to get across. Proper
accoustic treatments are available, but they cost a fortune. As I said
though, I'd have been tempted to use heavy curtains rather than (or as
well as) carpet tiles on the assumption that decoupling the
sound-absorbing material from a hard (reflective) backing surface might
help.

As for your glue problem, it's messy and a pig to remove, but Evostik
might be an answer? Cheap and cheerful anyway, even if you have to put a
tack or two into each tile while the glue dries.

I don't know what sort of recording you are likely to be doing, but
making a room completely and utterly "dead" can be counterproductive
sometimes. I presume you're not going to carpet-tile any windows, but if
these are small or few in number give consideration to leaving a couple
of bits of wall exposed. You can always cover them up later if you need
to... perhaps with heavy curtain so you have a choice of accoustic!

Hwyl!

M.

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