On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:57:40 +0100, Holly in France
wrote:

Hi all, I'm in the middle of googling and making slow progress, hope
someone here might beat google to it! Have also asked on
uk.bus.agriculture so we might find out which is best group to ask for
digger questions :-)

I need to find one, preferably two, new front tyres for out CASE 580G
digger, JCB size machine. Tyres are marked 9.00 x 16, local garage calls
this 900 x 16 and want 296 euros per tyre. The only ones I have found
online in France so far are at

http://www.bervas.fr/AGRICOLE/AVANT.htm
900-16 .
Ohero 3RIB 10PR 78 euro

What is 10PR please, ply-rating?? (I'm just googling this subject now)
Would these be suitable for a JCB? They look about right in the picture
:-)) They are so much cheaper than the original quote, I can't believe
they would be any good. I'm about to ring up and ask but I'm not sure I'm
going to trust the salesman. Our digger doesn't do an awful lot, we don't
need the very best quality long-lasting tyres but obviously we need
something that is up to the job. Any thoughts anyone please?

I don't know too much about tyres, but I did find that fitting them
was not easy. I thought any local tyre place would do tractor types -
but alas I was wrong.


Rick

Hi all, I'm in the middle of googling and making slow progress, hope
someone here might beat google to it! Have also asked on
uk.bus.agriculture so we might find out which is best group to ask for
digger questions :-)

I need to find one, preferably two, new front tyres for out CASE 580G
digger, JCB size machine. Tyres are marked 9.00 x 16, local garage calls
this 900 x 16 and want 296 euros per tyre. The only ones I have found
online in France so far are at

http://www.bervas.fr/AGRICOLE/AVANT.htm
900-16 .
Ohero 3RIB 10PR 78 euro

What is 10PR please, ply-rating?? (I'm just googling this subject now)
Would these be suitable for a JCB? They look about right in the picture
:-)) They are so much cheaper than the original quote, I can't believe
they would be any good. I'm about to ring up and ask but I'm not sure I'm
going to trust the salesman. Our digger doesn't do an awful lot, we don't
need the very best quality long-lasting tyres but obviously we need
something that is up to the job. Any thoughts anyone please?

--
Holly, in France
Holiday home in Dordogne
http://la-plaine.chez.tiscali.fr

I don't know too much about tyres, but I did find that fitting them
was not easy. I thought any local tyre place would do tractor types -
but alas I was wrong.


Rick

You seriously expected Kwik Fit and the rest of their competition to have
the same facilities to cope with changing a tractor tyre? Have you ever seen
tractor tyres on display their?

Kwik Fit couldn't even balance my old Peugeot 306 Hdi alloy wheels because
they didn't even have the tool for that, let alone a tractor one.

I should imagine that you need some sort of agricultural tractor tyre
specialist. For trucks and big tyres that should involve a mobile visit. Try
asking a local farmer or a tractor manufacturer.

RedOnRed wrote:

Kwik Fit couldn't even balance my old Peugeot 306 Hdi alloy wheels because
they didn't even have the tool for that, let alone a tractor one.

I don't think Tractor tyre/wheels need balancing.
:¬)

Seriously though, the "bead breaker" we used to have was a toss up
between a big "slide hammer" kind of device or gropping a digger bucket
on a peice of wood placed by the rim.

Certainly didn't require and "specilist" equipment.

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Kwik Fit couldn't even balance my old Peugeot 306 Hdi alloy wheels
because they didn't even have the tool for that, let alone a tractor one.

I don't think Tractor tyre/wheels need balancing.
:¬)

I didn't say they would. I said they couldn't even balance my car ones.


Seriously though, the "bead breaker" we used to have was a toss up between
a big "slide hammer" kind of device or gropping a digger bucket on a peice
of wood placed by the rim.

Certainly didn't require and "specilist" equipment.

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:56:27 +0100, RedOnRed wrote:

Rick said:

I don't know too much about tyres, but I did find that fitting them
was not easy. I thought any local tyre place would do tractor types -
but alas I was wrong.

Just about every garage around here will do them, but I guess that is
because it is a rural community. They don't all sell them but will all
change tyres and fix punctures.

You seriously expected Kwik Fit and the rest of their competition to have
the same facilities to cope with changing a tractor tyre?

This is France, not the UK, so I accept that things are different, but
everywhere seems to have facilities to change them. Our local garage in
Ireland did them too, again in a rural area though. Actually, I have now
found a place which will do them on site at a reasonable price, and it is
part of the PointS network, which is a smaller but similar kind of outfit
to Kwik-Fit AFAIK.

Have you ever seen tractor tyres on display their?

Don't remember ever seeing many tractor tyres on display anywhere, even in
specialist tractor places, they usually get them to order. I imagine that
the numbers sold would be too few and the range of sizes would be too great
for them to keep them in stock.


--
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Holiday home in Dordogne
http://la-plaine.chez.tiscali.fr

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:56:27 +0100, "RedOnRed" wrote:

I don't know too much about tyres, but I did find that fitting them
was not easy. I thought any local tyre place would do tractor types -
but alas I was wrong.


Rick

You seriously expected Kwik Fit and the rest of their competition to have
the same facilities to cope with changing a tractor tyre? Have you ever seen
tractor tyres on display their?

Kwik Fit couldn't even balance my old Peugeot 306 Hdi alloy wheels because
they didn't even have the tool for that, let alone a tractor one.

I should imagine that you need some sort of agricultural tractor tyre
specialist. For trucks and big tyres that should involve a mobile visit. Try
asking a local farmer or a tractor manufacturer.



Nope, not Kick Fit, but "XXXXX tyres - tyres for all vehicules", in a
framing market town, I did expect to be able to do it.

Mine were for the bobcat, so are similar in size to a 4x4.

Rick

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:18:27 GMT, "Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk"
wrote:

I don't think Tractor tyre/wheels need balancing.

Is that a fact? Some of todays upmarket tractors can go along at a
fair old speed, and once the wheel revolutions go up then vibration
can become a problem.

Plus on tractor tyres you might have hefty lumps of rubber making up
the tread, and I can imagine those lumps might need to be balanced.

I'm not saying that tractor tyres do need balancing, I'm just curious
as to whether it might be a suitable operation in some cases.

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Andrew McKay wrote:

I'm not saying that tractor tyres do need balancing, I'm just curious
as to whether it might be a suitable operation in some cases.

Tractor wheels are not balanced. With a top speed of say 30mph for the
fastest tractors, and a wheel diameter of 24" minimum (yes, older
tractors had smaller front wheels, but they also had much lower top
speeds), vibration from unbalanced wheels is just not an issue.


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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:41:24 +0100, Grunff wrote:

Andrew McKay wrote:

I'm not saying that tractor tyres do need balancing, I'm just curious
as to whether it might be a suitable operation in some cases.

Tractor wheels are not balanced. With a top speed of say 30mph for the
fastest tractors, and a wheel diameter of 24" minimum (yes, older
tractors had smaller front wheels, but they also had much lower top
speeds), vibration from unbalanced wheels is just not an issue.


I think you will find a JCB Fastrac does somewhat more than 30mph.

Rick

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:17:13 UTC, Rick wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:41:24 +0100, Grunff wrote:

Andrew McKay wrote:

I'm not saying that tractor tyres do need balancing, I'm just curious
as to whether it might be a suitable operation in some cases.

Tractor wheels are not balanced. With a top speed of say 30mph for the
fastest tractors, and a wheel diameter of 24" minimum (yes, older
tractors had smaller front wheels, but they also had much lower top
speeds), vibration from unbalanced wheels is just not an issue.


I think you will find a JCB Fastrac does somewhat more than 30mph.

Especially the souped up one that sped from Lands End to John O'Groats!

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:24:47 +0100, wrote:

Nope, especially not with 700litres of water sloshing about in them

You're not allowed to do that on a FasTrac.

The 50kg of mud is still OK though.

wrote:

Tractor wheels are not balanced.


Nope, especially not with 700litres of water sloshing about in them

Ah, well there's a thing.
with the tubes filled with water the wheels would be completely self
balancing while rotating at the speed of a jog or faster I would suggest!


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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:07:41 GMT, "Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk"
wrote:

with the tubes filled with water the wheels would be completely self
balancing while rotating

No, they oscillate.