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Homer2911 April 4th 05 06:08 PM

Cillit Bang - is it as good as it seems from the adverts?
 
Just asking like


Mungo \two sheds\ Toadfoot April 4th 05 06:19 PM

Homer2911 wrote:
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Is anything? My daughter informs me that it's nowhere near as good as it's
made out to be.

Si



Andy Mckenzie April 4th 05 06:25 PM

"Homer2911" wrote in message
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No idea, but
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/badsc...403982,00.html
pulls apart a bit of the 'science' in their ads.



Jim S April 4th 05 06:31 PM


"Homer2911" wrote in message
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I thought it was pretty useless. Nothing like the advert!



Heds April 4th 05 07:28 PM

Homer2911 wrote:
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It's a stupid name! Makes me think of a certain part of the female anatomy.


/Heds

Mary Fisher April 4th 05 08:38 PM


"Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
...
Homer2911 wrote:
Just asking like


Is anything? My daughter informs me that it's nowhere near as good as it's
made out to be.


OK, I give in,what is it?

Mary



Richard Faulkner April 4th 05 09:11 PM

In message . com,
Homer2911 writes
Just asking like


It's got rid of the grubbiness on my shower base which other cleaners,
including bleach, couldnt.

Contrary to everyone else's thoughts, I think it's OK.

--
Richard Faulkner

Alan April 4th 05 09:28 PM

In message . com,
Homer2911 wrote


Just asking like


I will not be buying a second bottle.


--
Alan


Jeff April 4th 05 10:03 PM


Alan wrote :-

I will not be buying a second bottle.


Nor me

but i s'pose if they make £1 clear profit on each bottle and a million
people try it ..............

Regards Jeff



[email protected] April 4th 05 10:19 PM

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 18:19:21 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
wrote:


Is anything? My daughter informs me that it's nowhere near as good as it's
made out to be.


In the advert they dip a copper coin into the solution to clean it.

However, on the bottle it apparently says not suitable for use with
copper.

Graham



Magician April 4th 05 10:20 PM

Contrary to everyone else's thoughts, I think it's OK.

I've tried it too and I'd agree.

There are two types, one for bathrooms which has an acidic base to
remove limescale and one which is a degreaser - I'm especially
impressed with the latter.

They only advertise one on the telly, saw both in Makro.

Dave


mike ring April 4th 05 10:26 PM

Richard Faulkner wrote in news:QqM
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It's got rid of the grubbiness on my shower base which other cleaners,
including bleach, couldnt.

Contrary to everyone else's thoughts, I think it's OK.


Me too; not as good as it claims, but *far* better thaan any other alleged
general purpose cleaner IMO

mike

EricP April 4th 05 10:38 PM

On 4 Apr 2005 10:08:04 -0700, "Homer2911"
babbled like a waterfall and said:

Just asking like


No, it's rubbish, based on the adverts.


RichardS April 4th 05 10:43 PM

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 18:19:21 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
wrote:


Is anything? My daughter informs me that it's nowhere near as good as

it's
made out to be.


In the advert they dip a copper coin into the solution to clean it.

However, on the bottle it apparently says not suitable for use with
copper.



amusingly, small captions have started appearing on the bottom of these
demonstrations.

IIRC, the copper coin demo (which lasts all of 3 seconds on the screen) has
the caption "15 minutes".

And another caption which I think is from this product says "stubborn
deposits may require scrubbing".

Which is strange, cos the advert makes it all look so easy..... g


--
Richard Sampson

mail me at
richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk



Anna Kettle April 5th 05 06:51 AM

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:38:39 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

OK, I give in,what is it?


Thanks Mary. If you didn't ask I was going to have to

Anna


~~ Anna Kettle, Suffolk, England
|""""| ~ Lime plaster repairs
/ ^^ \ // Freehand modelling in lime: overmantels, pargeting etc
|____| www.kettlenet.co.uk 01359 230642

Mary Fisher April 5th 05 08:54 AM


"Anna Kettle" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:38:39 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

OK, I give in,what is it?


Thanks Mary. If you didn't ask I was going to have to


But I haven't seen a reply ... :-(

I gather that it's a proprietary cleaner but from what Si said about his
daughter's comment I expected it to be something for Young People. The two
don't usually go together :-)

Mary

Anna


~~ Anna Kettle, Suffolk, England
|""""| ~ Lime plaster repairs
/ ^^ \ // Freehand modelling in lime: overmantels, pargeting etc
|____| www.kettlenet.co.uk 01359 230642




s--p--o--n--i--x April 5th 05 10:15 AM

On 4 Apr 2005 10:08:04 -0700, "Homer2911" wrote:

Just asking like


We have found it *excellent* at removing limescale..makes your fingers
sting, though.

Also good for removing surface rust!

sPoniX

s--p--o--n--i--x April 5th 05 10:16 AM

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:19:14 GMT, wrote:

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 18:19:21 +0100, "Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot"
wrote:


Is anything? My daughter informs me that it's nowhere near as good as it's
made out to be.


In the advert they dip a copper coin into the solution to clean it.

However, on the bottle it apparently says not suitable for use with
copper.


That's because copper coins aren't copper, afaik.

s--p--o--n--i--x April 5th 05 10:18 AM

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:38:39 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

OK, I give in,what is it?


Check this out:

http://www.luckykazoo.com/media/2005...ang-remix.html

Ian Johnston April 5th 05 10:26 AM

On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:16:30 UTC, (s--p--o--n--i--x)
wrote:

: That's because copper coins aren't copper, afaik.

Copper plated steel, these days.

Ian


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Andy Dingley April 5th 05 10:34 AM

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:16:30 GMT, (s--p--o--n--i--x)
wrote:

That's because copper coins aren't copper, afaik.


They used to be bronze, now they're copper over steel. As far as the
surface goes, they still clean as for copper.

Cillit bang is useful stuff, but it's well overpriced and you can buy
the same thing much more cheaply without the brand name.

Mungo \two sheds\ Toadfoot April 5th 05 10:37 AM

Mary Fisher wrote:
"Anna Kettle" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:38:39 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

OK, I give in,what is it?


Thanks Mary. If you didn't ask I was going to have to


But I haven't seen a reply ... :-(

I gather that it's a proprietary cleaner but from what Si said about
his daughter's comment I expected it to be something for Young
People. The two don't usually go together :-)


It's claimed to be a miraculous cleaning product. It isn't.

My daughter is the cadet sergeant at the local St.John ambulance unit and
she used Cillit Bang (which even she calls clit bang) to clean the St.John
beach "hut" recently.

Don't worry Mary, she only cleans when asked to - she's not a freak :)

Si



Mungo \two sheds\ Toadfoot April 5th 05 10:39 AM

Ian Johnston wrote:
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:16:30 UTC, (s--p--o--n--i--x)
wrote:

That's because copper coins aren't copper, afaik.


Copper plated steel, these days.


There's some fun to be had with two 2p coins and a magnet - find one which
is copper and one which is steel. Use a magnet to show someone that a 2p
coin can be picked up with a magnet then switch the coins and let them try
it.

Si



Mary Fisher April 5th 05 11:11 AM


"Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
...

OK, I give in,what is it?

Thanks Mary. If you didn't ask I was going to have to


But I haven't seen a reply ... :-(

I gather that it's a proprietary cleaner but from what Si said about
his daughter's comment I expected it to be something for Young
People. The two don't usually go together :-)


It's claimed to be a miraculous cleaning product. It isn't.

My daughter is the cadet sergeant at the local St.John ambulance unit and
she used Cillit Bang (which even she calls clit bang) to clean the St.John
beach "hut" recently.


Ah, I see. I'd forgotten about that, thanks.

Don't worry Mary, she only cleans when asked to - she's not a freak :)


Of course she's not, she's your daughter.
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These things usually skip a generation :-)

Mary

Si




Mary Fisher April 5th 05 11:15 AM


"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:16:30 GMT, (s--p--o--n--i--x)
wrote:

That's because copper coins aren't copper, afaik.


They used to be bronze, now they're copper over steel. As far as the
surface goes, they still clean as for copper.

Cillit bang is useful stuff, but it's well overpriced and you can buy
the same thing much more cheaply without the brand name.


Last week I accidentally splashed a copper pitcher which hasn't been cleaned
for thirty or so years with Harpic lime scale remover. The effct was
amazing, spots of the classic salmon pink pure metal showed. I made a very
weak solution and immersed the whole item in it, it worked like a dream.

Somewhere I have some Brasso ...

Mary



The Natural Philosopher April 5th 05 01:20 PM

Homer2911 wrote:

Just asking like

Of course it isn't.

Its a fancey name for waterred d=own poofed up basic chemicals at 20
times the price.

By teh chemicals instead.

The Natural Philosopher April 5th 05 01:22 PM

s--p--o--n--i--x wrote:

On 4 Apr 2005 10:08:04 -0700, "Homer2911" wrote:


Just asking like



We have found it *excellent* at removing limescale..makes your fingers
sting, though.

Also good for removing surface rust!


Phosphoric acid probably then.

Just about any acid is excellent at removing limescale.

sPoniX


Mary Fisher April 5th 05 01:50 PM


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Homer2911 wrote:

Just asking like

Of course it isn't.

Its a fancey name for waterred d=own poofed up basic chemicals at 20 times
the price.

By teh chemicals instead.


This is one of your posts you don't want to be taken seriously I take it
since you can't be arsed to make corrections and make communication
efficient.




Andy Dingley April 5th 05 02:06 PM

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:22:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Also good for removing surface rust!


Phosphoric acid probably then.


Phosphoric acid won't remove rust at all. Instead it converts it to
phosphides. If you've already wire brushed it to remove the bulk,
then this might give you a useful surface for painting, but it's
_stabilisation_, rather than removal.

The best acid for careful de-rusting is citric. Sulphamic acid, as
used in most descalers, isn't bad either. Hydrochloric (aka muriatic
or brick acid) is pretty lousy in comparison.

But if you really want to de-rust, use electrolysis. Easy and the
results are vastly better.


s--p--o--n--i--x April 5th 05 03:44 PM

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 10:34:22 +0100, Andy Dingley
wrote:

Cillit bang is useful stuff, but it's well overpriced and you can buy
the same thing much more cheaply without the brand name.


So what is the non-brand name stuff sold as?

It's certainly not the same as limescale remover as we did a
comparason test between Viakal and Cillit and the cillit was better.

s--p--o--n--i--x April 5th 05 03:45 PM

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:22:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Also good for removing surface rust!


Phosphoric acid probably then.


Dunno what it is but try rubbing a rusty bit of metal with fine wire
wool and cillit!

sponix

Andy Dingley April 5th 05 04:43 PM

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:44:30 GMT, (s--p--o--n--i--x)
wrote:

So what is the non-brand name stuff sold as?


One of Lidl's is very similar. Or you can mix your own from sulphamic
acid and surfactants.

For some reason, nearly all supermarket descalers seem to carry huge
markups. My sulphamic acid is some MrKwikkyKleen stuff from the
ironmongers and is half the price.

Do they still have ironmongers South of Watford ?

[email protected] April 5th 05 08:34 PM

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:43:53 +0100, Andy Dingley
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:44:30 GMT, (s--p--o--n--i--x)
wrote:

So what is the non-brand name stuff sold as?


One of Lidl's is very similar. Or you can mix your own from sulphamic
acid and surfactants.


Like we all have sulphawhatsitmic acid and sur****ingfactants to
hand

You've been watching too much Open University.

(:-)

Graham



[email protected] April 5th 05 08:36 PM

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:11:55 +0100, Richard Faulkner
wrote:

In message . com,
Homer2911 writes
Just asking like


It's got rid of the grubbiness on my shower base which other cleaners,
including bleach, couldnt.


If you washed yourself with Cilit Bang you wouldn't get any grubbiness
on the shower base and you would need to clean it.

(:-)

Graham



Andy Dingley April 5th 05 09:03 PM

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:34:48 GMT, wrote:

Like we all have sulphawhatsitmic acid and sur****ingfactants to
hand


You do - just buy them in the supermarket. On their own they're
common, all Cillit Bang has done is to mix them up together.

Mary will probably use formic acid instead, made by boiling up an
anthill, and a detergent made by pressing the oil out of beech nuts.
8-)

raden April 5th 05 09:26 PM

In message , Andy Dingley
writes
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:44:30 GMT, (s--p--o--n--i--x)
wrote:

So what is the non-brand name stuff sold as?


One of Lidl's is very similar. Or you can mix your own from sulphamic
acid and surfactants.

For some reason, nearly all supermarket descalers seem to carry huge
markups. My sulphamic acid is some MrKwikkyKleen stuff from the
ironmongers and is half the price.

Do they still have ironmongers South of Watford ?


I dunno, I have a 20 kg tub of it, so I don't need to bother to find out

--
geoff

Mary Fisher April 5th 05 09:32 PM


"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:34:48 GMT, wrote:

Like we all have sulphawhatsitmic acid and sur****ingfactants to
hand


You do - just buy them in the supermarket. On their own they're
common, all Cillit Bang has done is to mix them up together.

Mary will probably use formic acid instead, made by boiling up an
anthill, and a detergent made by pressing the oil out of beech nuts.
8-)


No, I prefer to use the steam cleanerand nothing but water :-) Why kill
ants? And I prefer to eat beech mast.

Not that I clean often but the Karcher has done good duty today.

Mary



Pete C April 6th 05 05:50 PM

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:03:05 +0100, Andy Dingley
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:34:48 GMT, wrote:

Like we all have sulphawhatsitmic acid and sur****ingfactants to
hand


You do - just buy them in the supermarket. On their own they're
common, all Cillit Bang has done is to mix them up together.

Mary will probably use formic acid instead, made by boiling up an
anthill, and a detergent made by pressing the oil out of beech nuts.
8-)


Hi,

Have had great results on a badly 'cemented' kitchen tap with a formic
acid based kettle descaler.

I wrapped a couple of layers of loo roll round it (!) before pouring
the descaler on so it wouldn't run off straight away.

Even though using a small amount didn't make the scale disappear, it
weakened it enough to be scrubbed off with minimal elbow grease.

cheers,
Pete.

Mungo \two sheds\ Toadfoot April 7th 05 07:29 PM

Pete C wrote:

Have had great results on a badly 'cemented' kitchen tap with a formic
acid based kettle descaler.

I wrapped a couple of layers of loo roll round it (!) before pouring
the descaler on so it wouldn't run off straight away.


Now there's a good idea that I would never have thought of!

Si



Magician April 7th 05 07:39 PM

Andy dingley wrote;
.You do - just buy them in the supermarket. On their own they're

common, all Cillit Bang has done is to mix them up together.

What supermarket? Under what names do they sell them? Tesco Value
Surfactant? Tesco Finest Sulphamic Acid?

I've never seen them.

Dave



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