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On 1/8/2012 2:08 PM, Hawwke-ptooey wrote:

And you think that you can change things by posting on RCM.

Dan



What do you think Dan. When someone exposes a person as a liar does that
change anything?

Hawwke-ptooey


It changes things just as much as you do when you expose yourself as a
fool by posting.

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On 1/8/2012 2:09 PM, David R. Birch wrote:
On 1/8/2012 2:08 PM, Hawwke-ptooey wrote:

And you think that you can change things by posting on RCM.

Dan



What do you think Dan. When someone exposes a person as a liar does that
change anything?

Hawwke-ptooey


It changes things just as much as you do when you expose yourself as a
fool by posting.

David


Shut up, punk. Nobody asked you for your two cents.

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On Jan 10, 3:31*pm, Hawke wrote:


Shut up, punk. Nobody asked you for your two cents.

Hawke


Temper , Temper. This is a usegroup and open to everyone that wants
to participate. If you were corresponding by email, it would be
different.

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Hey hawkie punk, nobody asked you for your two
****ing
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Hey hawkie punk, nobody asked you for your two
****ingcents either!


He doesn't have two cents, unless the welfare office gave him one more.


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On 1/10/2012 7:20 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
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On Jan 10, 3:31 pm, Hawke
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Shut up, punk. Nobody asked you for your two
cents.

Hawke



Hey hawkie punk, nobody asked you for your two
****ingcents either!


He doesn't have two cents, unless the welfare office gave him one more.



Something from your tone tells me you ain't rich and you know that means
you aren't smart either.

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On Jan 12, 2:51*pm, Hawke wrote:
On 1/10/2012 4:23 PM, wrote:

On Jan 10, 3:31 pm, *wrote:


Shut up, punk. Nobody asked you for your two cents.


Hawke


Temper , Temper. *This is a usegroup and open to everyone that wants
to participate. *If you were corresponding by email, it would be
different.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Dan


You snipped out what my reply was to. If you had left that in then you
would see what I said was appropriate. The boy needed a reprimand!

Hawke


Anyone interested can find all the pieces I cut out.

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On 1/12/2012 1:51 PM, Hawwk-ptooey wrote:
On 1/10/2012 4:23 PM, wrote:
On Jan 10, 3:31 pm, wrote:


Shut up, punk. Nobody asked you for your two cents.

Hawwk-ptooey


Temper , Temper. This is a usegroup and open to everyone that wants
to participate. If you were corresponding by email, it would be
different.

Dan



You snipped out what my reply was to. If you had left that in then you
would see what I said was appropriate. The boy needed a reprimand!

Hawwk-ptooey


I'm sure that anyone who cared to had read what led to your pathetic
childish response. I scoff at the idea that your reprimand would be
taken seriously by the adults who frequent this group. I'm sure I'm not
the only one who finds your pettiness annoying. Maybe there's another
group that could feed your desperate need for attention.

The problem is that you have displayed so little credibility, maturity
and accumulated wisdom in your typical posts that no one takes you
seriously. You come on like a little boy trying to join an adult
conversation, but you just don't have enough depth of insight to be able
to make a useful contribution, plus you're too petty and obnoxious to
even be amusing.

You make big noises about your alleged poli sci degree, but all that you
show us is that left = good, right(as in, anyone who points out your
errors)= bad. You can't even recognize that there are valid political
stances other than left/right or that there are people like me far to
the left of you who see you for the shallow poseur that you are.

Get lost.

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On 1/12/2012 8:49 PM, David R. Birch wrote:
On 1/12/2012 1:51 PM, Hawwk-ptooey wrote:
On 1/10/2012 4:23 PM, wrote:
On Jan 10, 3:31 pm, wrote:


Shut up, punk. Nobody asked you for your two cents.

Hawwk-ptooey

Temper , Temper. This is a usegroup and open to everyone that wants
to participate. If you were corresponding by email, it would be
different.

Dan



You snipped out what my reply was to. If you had left that in then you
would see what I said was appropriate. The boy needed a reprimand!

Hawwk-ptooey


I'm sure that anyone who cared to had read what led to your pathetic
childish response. I scoff at the idea that your reprimand would be
taken seriously by the adults who frequent this group. I'm sure I'm not
the only one who finds your pettiness annoying. Maybe there's another
group that could feed your desperate need for attention.

The problem is that you have displayed so little credibility, maturity
and accumulated wisdom in your typical posts that no one takes you
seriously. You come on like a little boy trying to join an adult
conversation, but you just don't have enough depth of insight to be able
to make a useful contribution, plus you're too petty and obnoxious to
even be amusing.

You make big noises about your alleged poli sci degree, but all that you
show us is that left = good, right(as in, anyone who points out your
errors)= bad. You can't even recognize that there are valid political
stances other than left/right or that there are people like me far to
the left of you who see you for the shallow poseur that you are.

Get lost.

David


Keep repeating the same posts over and over and I'll keep giving you the
same reply. Shut up!

Hawke



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On 1/10/2012 2:31 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 1/8/2012 2:09 PM, David R. Birch wrote:
On 1/8/2012 2:08 PM, Hawwke-ptooey wrote:

And you think that you can change things by posting on RCM.

Dan


What do you think Dan. When someone exposes a person as a liar does that
change anything?

Hawwke-ptooey


It changes things just as much as you do when you expose yourself as a
fool by posting.

David


Shut up, punk. Nobody asked you for your two cents.

Hawke


Punk? Decades ago, back when I was a punk, the word wasn't in common
usage. I outgrew that level long before I reached the age of 14, which
is where you seemed to have stopped maturing.

Has anyone here ever asked anyone for their 2 cents? :^) I wouldn't ask
for yours because I'm sure you spent all your pocket change buying that
poli sci diploma.

You just can't resist displaying for all your immaturity and cluelessness.

The problem is that you have displayed so little credibility, maturity
and accumulated wisdom in your typical posts that no one takes you
seriously. You come on like a little boy trying to join an adult
conversation, but you just don't have enough depth of insight to be able
to make a useful contribution, plus you're too petty and obnoxious to
even be amusing.

You make big noises about your alleged poli sci degree, but all that you
show us is that left = good, right(as in, anyone who points out your
errors)= bad. You can't even recognize that there are valid political
stances other than left/right or that there are people like me far to
the left of you who see you for the shallow poseur that you are.

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On 1/10/2012 8:49 PM, David R. Birch wrote:
On 1/10/2012 2:31 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 1/8/2012 2:09 PM, David R. Birch wrote:
On 1/8/2012 2:08 PM, Hawwke-ptooey wrote:

And you think that you can change things by posting on RCM.

Dan


What do you think Dan. When someone exposes a person as a liar does
that
change anything?

Hawwke-ptooey

It changes things just as much as you do when you expose yourself as a
fool by posting.

David


Shut up, punk. Nobody asked you for your two cents.

Hawke


Punk? Decades ago, back when I was a punk, the word wasn't in common
usage. I outgrew that level long before I reached the age of 14, which
is where you seemed to have stopped maturing.

Has anyone here ever asked anyone for their 2 cents? :^) I wouldn't ask
for yours because I'm sure you spent all your pocket change buying that
poli sci diploma.


I dug back in Google Groups and found at least one instance (December
2009) when he said he had a degree in political science. That fits.

Do you have any idea how old he is, and what he does for a living?



You just can't resist displaying for all your immaturity and cluelessness.

The problem is that you have displayed so little credibility, maturity
and accumulated wisdom in your typical posts that no one takes you
seriously. You come on like a little boy trying to join an adult
conversation, but you just don't have enough depth of insight to be able
to make a useful contribution, plus you're too petty and obnoxious to
even be amusing.


There's something about him that makes me think he's much older than the
views he expresses - not exactly immature, in the sense that he'd still
be shoplifting candy bars from the drugstore or doing frat party beer
busts, but maybe a case of arrested development. I've encountered
people in their 30s or 40s who expressed similarly extremist political
views to his, but they expressed them in age-appropriate styles.
Something about his writing suggests youth, but I don't think he's all
that young.

I'm still curious to know how he makes a living. Earlier this evening
he wrote about not having to work to support himself. My first guess is
nutless househusband. I don't think he's old enough to have kids who
are supporting him, and I don't think he's a welfare scrounger.


You make big noises about your alleged poli sci degree, but all that you
show us is that left = good, right(as in, anyone who points out your
errors)= bad. You can't even recognize that there are valid political
stances other than left/right or that there are people like me far to
the left of you who see you for the shallow poseur that you are.


It's funny that he accuses others of so-called "black-white" thinking,
because he's not only susceptible to it, he lives by it. His notion
that wealth disparities are bad /per se/, without being able to come
close to articulating /why/ they're bad, is an example.
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On Jan 11, 12:21*am, George Plimpton wrote:


Do you have any idea how old he is, and what he does for a living?

He has said that he got his college degree when he was fifty, at least
that is what I remember. And something else he said has me thinking
he is less that 65 year old. Do not remember exactly what it was that
makes me think that. So I think of him as someone who graduated from
college about 15 years ago.





There's something about him that makes me think he's much older than the
views he expresses - not exactly immature, in the sense that he'd still
be shoplifting candy bars from the drugstore or doing frat party beer
busts, but maybe a case of arrested development. *I've encountered
people in their 30s or 40s who expressed similarly extremist political
views to his, but they expressed them in age-appropriate styles.
Something about his writing suggests youth, but I don't think he's all
that young.

That fits in with my thoughts of him being about 15 years after
graduation. So much like a 35 year old in his thinking.



I'm still curious to know how he makes a living. *Earlier this evening
he wrote about not having to work to support himself. *My first guess is
nutless househusband. *I don't think he's old enough to have kids who
are supporting him, and I don't think he's a welfare scrounger.


I do not think he has ever been married. At least I can not remember
him ever posting anything that would make me think he is or had been
married.


It's funny that he accuses others of so-called "black-white" thinking,
because he's not only susceptible to it, he lives by it. *His notion
that wealth disparities are bad /per se/, without being able to come
close to articulating /why/ they're bad, is an example.


I think ho accuses others of that because I give him a bad time about
seeing the world as black and white. So he accuses others of that to
make it seem like he does not see the word in black and white.


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On 1/11/2012 6:24 AM, wrote:
On Jan 11, 12:21 am, George wrote:


Do you have any idea how old he is, and what he does for a living?

He has said that he got his college degree when he was fifty, at least
that is what I remember. And something else he said has me thinking
he is less that 65 year old. Do not remember exactly what it was that
makes me think that. So I think of him as someone who graduated from
college about 15 years ago.





There's something about him that makes me think he's much older than the
views he expresses - not exactly immature, in the sense that he'd still
be shoplifting candy bars from the drugstore or doing frat party beer
busts, but maybe a case of arrested development. I've encountered
people in their 30s or 40s who expressed similarly extremist political
views to his, but they expressed them in age-appropriate styles.
Something about his writing suggests youth, but I don't think he's all
that young.

That fits in with my thoughts of him being about 15 years after
graduation. So much like a 35 year old in his thinking.





I'm still curious to know how he makes a living. Earlier this evening
he wrote about not having to work to support himself. My first guess is
nutless househusband. I don't think he's old enough to have kids who
are supporting him, and I don't think he's a welfare scrounger.


I do not think he has ever been married. At least I can not remember
him ever posting anything that would make me think he is or had been
married.


It's funny that he accuses others of so-called "black-white" thinking,
because he's not only susceptible to it, he lives by it. His notion
that wealth disparities are bad /per se/, without being able to come
close to articulating /why/ they're bad, is an example.


I think ho accuses others of that because I give him a bad time about
seeing the world as black and white. So he accuses others of that to
make it seem like he does not see the word in black and white.


Dan




All this speculation. I can clear it up for you. I'm 61 years old,
white, single, lifelong bachelor, and I get my money from investments I
made over the years. I've had numerous jobs. I was a real estate agent
for a while and I also owned a tennis pro shop and was a U.S.P.T.A.
certified instructor. I went to college at Calif. State University,
Chico. My B.A. is in Political science and I'm also a certified
paralegal. So that's me. But I've been a lot of places and met a lot of
people and have quite a varied set of life experiences. I've never used
my degree to make a living. I haven't needed to. But I got the benefit
of an education, which I notice that many who don't have degrees don't
think much of. I can understand that. I used to be ignorant like them
too. Anything else?

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On 1/10/2012 2:31 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 1/8/2012 2:09 PM, David R. Birch wrote:
On 1/8/2012 2:08 PM, Hawwke-ptooey wrote:

And you think that you can change things by posting on RCM.

Dan


What do you think Dan. When someone exposes a person as a liar does
that
change anything?

Hawwke-ptooey

It changes things just as much as you do when you expose yourself as a
fool by posting.

David


Shut up, punk. Nobody asked you for your two cents.

Hawke


Punk? Decades ago, back when I was a punk, the word wasn't in common
usage. I outgrew that level long before I reached the age of 14, which is
where you seemed to have stopped maturing.

Has anyone here ever asked anyone for their 2 cents? :^) I wouldn't ask
for yours because I'm sure you spent all your pocket change buying that
poli sci diploma.

You just can't resist displaying for all your immaturity and cluelessness.

The problem is that you have displayed so little credibility, maturity
and accumulated wisdom in your typical posts that no one takes you
seriously. You come on like a little boy trying to join an adult
conversation, but you just don't have enough depth of insight to be able
to make a useful contribution, plus you're too petty and obnoxious to
even be amusing.

You make big noises about your alleged poli sci degree, but all that you
show us is that left = good, right(as in, anyone who points out your
errors)= bad. You can't even recognize that there are valid political
stances other than left/right or that there are people like me far to
the left of you who see you for the shallow poseur that you are.

David


Poli sci degree? What's that worth? Even the paper that it's written on
seems that it would chafe. I guess it's like the gal that was complaining
on talk radio about there not being enough good paying jobs for a "ancient
Greek cultural arts" diploma. Or something like that. Even if she got a
lot of actual "Greek" ;-) experience in college, women who will do that
sort of thing make decent money as I hear it is somewhat specialized in that
circle. It would seem that as with welders and machinists, it would be
logical to check out what the job pays before you invest years and years and
the government's money in it. Or maybe the goal is to become so smart that
you can't do anything but teach, and we all know that's a cushy secure job
for life once tenure is achieved.

And then there's the speaking circuit. Or politics.

Or usenet, but that doesn't pay well, either.

I'm confused. ;-) And most poli sci majors that I have ever met are one
peg above crazy as a ******** rat types.

Steve

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On 1/10/2012 8:49 PM, David R. Birch wrote:
On 1/10/2012 2:31 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 1/8/2012 2:09 PM, David R. Birch wrote:
On 1/8/2012 2:08 PM, Hawwke-ptooey wrote:

And you think that you can change things by posting on RCM.

Dan


What do you think Dan. When someone exposes a person as a liar does
that
change anything?

Hawwke-ptooey

It changes things just as much as you do when you expose yourself as a
fool by posting.

David


Shut up, punk. Nobody asked you for your two cents.

Hawke


Punk? Decades ago, back when I was a punk, the word wasn't in common
usage. I outgrew that level long before I reached the age of 14, which
is where you seemed to have stopped maturing.

Has anyone here ever asked anyone for their 2 cents? :^) I wouldn't ask
for yours because I'm sure you spent all your pocket change buying that
poli sci diploma.

You just can't resist displaying for all your immaturity and cluelessness.

The problem is that you have displayed so little credibility, maturity
and accumulated wisdom in your typical posts that no one takes you
seriously. You come on like a little boy trying to join an adult
conversation, but you just don't have enough depth of insight to be able
to make a useful contribution, plus you're too petty and obnoxious to
even be amusing.

You make big noises about your alleged poli sci degree, but all that you
show us is that left = good, right(as in, anyone who points out your
errors)= bad. You can't even recognize that there are valid political
stances other than left/right or that there are people like me far to
the left of you who see you for the shallow poseur that you are.

David




And you just keep repeating the same tripe. I've looked to see your
highly intellectual and rational commentary on numerous subjects but
there doesn't seem to be any for me to look at. All I can find are
examples of you acting superior and condescending. You try to come
across as some kind of authority that has a right to judge others. Yet
you have shown nothing that would indicate you have anything making you
better than average. You don't tell us about your advanced degrees. You
don't have brilliant things you have written. You do have plenty of
childish personal criticisms. But not a thing showing you to be anything
to write home about. So how about showing us how great you are instead
of just talking about how great you are? Unless the truth is you aren't
very good at much of anything, which I suspect is the reality. You
pretend to be what your aren't because what you really are is woefully
inadequate.


Hawke

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On 1/12/2012 2:01 PM, Hawwke-ptooey wrote:
On 1/10/2012 8:49 PM, David R. Birch wrote:
On 1/10/2012 2:31 PM, Hawwke-ptooeye wrote:
On 1/8/2012 2:09 PM, David R. Birch wrote:
On 1/8/2012 2:08 PM, Hawwke-ptooey wrote:

And you think that you can change things by posting on RCM.

Dan


What do you think Dan. When someone exposes a person as a liar does
that
change anything?

Hawwke-ptooey

It changes things just as much as you do when you expose yourself as a
fool by posting.

David

Shut up, punk. Nobody asked you for your two cents.

Hawwke-ptooey


Punk? Decades ago, back when I was a punk, the word wasn't in common
usage. I outgrew that level long before I reached the age of 14, which
is where you seemed to have stopped maturing.

Has anyone here ever asked anyone for their 2 cents? :^) I wouldn't ask
for yours because I'm sure you spent all your pocket change buying that
poli sci diploma.

You just can't resist displaying for all your immaturity and
cluelessness.

The problem is that you have displayed so little credibility, maturity
and accumulated wisdom in your typical posts that no one takes you
seriously. You come on like a little boy trying to join an adult
conversation, but you just don't have enough depth of insight to be able
to make a useful contribution, plus you're too petty and obnoxious to
even be amusing.

You make big noises about your alleged poli sci degree, but all that you
show us is that left = good, right(as in, anyone who points out your
errors)= bad. You can't even recognize that there are valid political
stances other than left/right or that there are people like me far to
the left of you who see you for the shallow poseur that you are.

David




And you just keep repeating the same tripe. I've looked to see your
highly intellectual and rational commentary on numerous subjects but
there doesn't seem to be any for me to look at.


The group has noted your poor reading comprehension.

All I can find are examples of you acting superior and condescending.


This indicates you've only found what I wrote to you.

You try to come across as some kind of authority that has a right
to judge others.


We all exercise judgement in everything we do. In your case, I don't
really bother beyond pointing out your usual levels of inconsistency and
hypocrisy.


Yet you have shown nothing that would indicate you have anything making
youbetter than average. You don't tell us about your advanced degrees.


You're the only one who considers degrees important.


You don't have brilliant things you have written.


No, you just haven't read them, or if you have, they are beyond you.


You do have plenty of childish personal criticisms.


Just trying to help by pointing out your many faults so that you may
correct them.


But not a thing showing you to be anything to write home about.


To whom would you write home? Why would they read it?

So how about showing us how great you are instead
of just talking about how great you are?


I haven't talked about me being great, just about you being meager.

Unless the truth is you aren't very good at much of anything,
which I suspect is the reality. You pretend to be what your
aren't because what you really are is woefully inadequate.


Hawwke-ptooey


I see from this that you have little experience with reality. Of course,
this is what you show us with every post.

David

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On 1/12/2012 9:19 PM, David R. Birch wrote:

And you just keep repeating the same tripe. I've looked to see your
highly intellectual and rational commentary on numerous subjects but
there doesn't seem to be any for me to look at.


The group has noted your poor reading comprehension.


My reading comprehension skills are at least as good as yours. I learned
them getting my training as a paralegal. The question is are you going
to pretend you know the law better than I do too? I've plowed through
legal decisions you would never understand. But keep up the superiority
charade all you want.


All I can find are examples of you acting superior and condescending.


This indicates you've only found what I wrote to you.


I can't find anything you write that is above a sixth grade level. To
anyone. I find nothing indicating you have any training or expertise in
anything, even metalworking.


You try to come across as some kind of authority that has a right
to judge others.


We all exercise judgement in everything we do. In your case, I don't
really bother beyond pointing out your usual levels of inconsistency and
hypocrisy.


In your case that is completely understandable. You really have shown
nothing to indicate you are even average. That is what's most consistent
about you. You repeat yourself endlessly and you contribute nothing of
value to the group. Apparently there is nothing with which you have any
expertise in whatsoever. But you do take it upon yourself to act like a
snob. Not a good combination.



Yet you have shown nothing that would indicate you have anything making
youbetter than average. You don't tell us about your advanced degrees.


You're the only one who considers degrees important.


That's what uneducated people say all the time. Try looking for work
without having a college degree and see if any of the "job creators"
agree with you. They won't. They all want people with degrees. I wonder
why? Maybe they think they're better than the people without them.


You don't have brilliant things you have written.


No, you just haven't read them, or if you have, they are beyond you.


Care to show us some of your best material? You know, some examples of
how you are one of the better minds here.



You do have plenty of childish personal criticisms.


Just trying to help by pointing out your many faults so that you may
correct them.


Yeah, sure you are. Thanks for showing how dishonest you are.


But not a thing showing you to be anything to write home about.


To whom would you write home? Why would they read it?


That's an expression that everyone should know. If you don't recognize
that you really are lacking in basic knowledge.


So how about showing us how great you are instead
of just talking about how great you are?


I haven't talked about me being great, just about you being meager.


Anyone can understand that the flip side of that means you think you are
something above meager yourself. If you are good enough to criticize and
find fault in others you owe it to the group to explain why. So tell
everyone how come you are so qualified to tell others how inferior they
are? You have to be better to do that and you aren't showing you are any
better than anyone. You do show what a chicken you are though.



Unless the truth is you aren't very good at much of anything,
which I suspect is the reality. You pretend to be what your
aren't because what you really are is woefully inadequate.


Hawwke-ptooey


I see from this that you have little experience with reality. Of course,
this is what you show us with every post.



What you show with you posts is that you think you're better than you
are and you show you haven't got the balls to come out with what makes
you any better than anyone else. Where's your Ph.D from? Where's your
Olympic medals. Where's your mansion you live in. I mean, you sound so
superior lets see the proof of it. Of course if you can't then you're
just like Gummer, a big mouth that doesn't tell the truth. In other
words you'd be a liar that has no balls.

Hawke
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