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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:36:05 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: Rather fascinating!! http://videos2view.net/skin-gun.htm Gunner Very impressive. Dave |
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Winston wrote:
lid wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:36:05 -0700, Gunner wrote: Rather fascinating!! http://videos2view.net/skin-gun.htm Very impressive. And Snopes likes it too! Looks like more 'scientific' meddling with _God's plan_. Well, that hand proves once and for all that we're all pink on the inside! I once fell asleep on the beach by Biloxi, MS; a few days later, I had skin available for donation in about half-square-foot sheets! Cheers! Rich |
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:20:33 -0700, Winston
wrote: wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:36:05 -0700, Gunner wrote: Rather fascinating!! http://videos2view.net/skin-gun.htm Gunner Very impressive. Dave And Snopes likes it too! Looks like more 'scientific' meddling with _God's plan_. --Winston -- Yes. Joking. *Smirk!* Let's hope it works to degrade the PAIN from burns first and foremost. Anything is better than nothing, though. Burns truly suck. I had a buddy in LoCal who was burned as a kid. They gave him too much morphine and it blew out his hearing in both ears. Now he's disfigured -and- deaf. The sample guy was only a 2nd degree burn. Can you say "blistered"? Not nearly as bad. Does it work on 3rd degree burns, too? (further research indicates that it cannot.) http://goo.gl/Xi3uu His atomization sucks, though. And that's likely a $34k gun, too. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman |
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:29:44 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:20:33 -0700, Winston wrote: wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:36:05 -0700, Gunner wrote: Rather fascinating!! http://videos2view.net/skin-gun.htm Gunner Very impressive. Dave And Snopes likes it too! Looks like more 'scientific' meddling with _God's plan_. --Winston -- Yes. Joking. *Smirk!* Let's hope it works to degrade the PAIN from burns first and foremost. Anything is better than nothing, though. Burns truly suck. I had a buddy in LoCal who was burned as a kid. They gave him too much morphine and it blew out his hearing in both ears. Now he's disfigured -and- deaf. The sample guy was only a 2nd degree burn. Can you say "blistered"? Not nearly as bad. Does it work on 3rd degree burns, too? (further research indicates that it cannot.) http://goo.gl/Xi3uu Cannot..or "doesnt yet"? His atomization sucks, though. And that's likely a $34k gun, too. -- "If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight, it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified) |
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:31:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:29:44 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:20:33 -0700, Winston wrote: wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:36:05 -0700, Gunner wrote: Rather fascinating!! http://videos2view.net/skin-gun.htm Gunner Very impressive. Dave And Snopes likes it too! Looks like more 'scientific' meddling with _God's plan_. --Winston -- Yes. Joking. *Smirk!* Let's hope it works to degrade the PAIN from burns first and foremost. Anything is better than nothing, though. Burns truly suck. I had a buddy in LoCal who was burned as a kid. They gave him too much morphine and it blew out his hearing in both ears. Now he's disfigured -and- deaf. The sample guy was only a 2nd degree burn. Can you say "blistered"? Not nearly as bad. Does it work on 3rd degree burns, too? (further research indicates that it cannot.) http://goo.gl/Xi3uu Cannot..or "doesnt yet"? Yes. Both answers are correct. It doesn't now, but they're workin' on it. I'd think they'd want better atomization first, though. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
... I'd think they'd want better atomization first, though. That's not at all clear. Better atomization might be harmful to the cells. Gentle handling of the cells is what's important, regardless of the degree of atomization. Bob |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:20:33 -0700, wrote: lid wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:36:05 -0700, Gunner wrote: Rather fascinating!! http://videos2view.net/skin-gun.htm Gunner Very impressive. Dave And Snopes likes it too! Looks like more 'scientific' meddling with _God's plan_. --Winston-- Yes. Joking. *Smirk!* Let's hope it works to degrade the PAIN from burns first and foremost. Anything is better than nothing, though. Burns truly suck. I had a buddy in LoCal who was burned as a kid. They gave him too much morphine and it blew out his hearing in both ears. Now he's disfigured -and- deaf. It is difficult to feel too sorry for oneself when one hears a story like that guy's. Jeeze. The sample guy was only a 2nd degree burn. Can you say "blistered"? Not nearly as bad. Does it work on 3rd degree burns, too? (further research indicates that it cannot.) http://goo.gl/Xi3uu Evidence suggests that it is an effective tool for some kinds of burns. Should we dismiss it because it does not regenerate missing limbs *while* healing skin within days? I think not! "Mr Uram's skin is now completely healed with no obvious signs he was ever burned." Well, OK. That is not too bad. His atomization sucks, though. And that's likely a $34k gun, too. Who knows? Not me. Perhaps Dr Jörg Gerlach discovered that an evenly distributed fine coat of stem cell solution did not work as quickly or effectively as did the uneven pattern shown? It doesn't even matter to me that, as the Dr. says: “Skin cell spraying is not new, it was invented around 20 years ago in Argentina; and it is (for example) also performed in Australia,” http://www.thestar.com/news/world/ar...n-burn-victims Often, the guy that saves lives and reduces suffering did that by promoting the work of others. --Winston |
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 23:28:49 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: ... I'd think they'd want better atomization first, though. That's not at all clear. Better atomization might be harmful to the cells. Gentle handling of the cells is what's important, regardless of the degree of atomization. Perhaps you're right. Perhaps the better the atomization, the more oxidized the cells get and the lower their survival rate becomes. shrug -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman |
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:29:25 -0700, Winston
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:20:33 -0700, wrote: lid wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:36:05 -0700, Gunner wrote: Rather fascinating!! http://videos2view.net/skin-gun.htm Gunner Very impressive. Dave And Snopes likes it too! Looks like more 'scientific' meddling with _God's plan_. --Winston-- Yes. Joking. *Smirk!* Let's hope it works to degrade the PAIN from burns first and foremost. Anything is better than nothing, though. Burns truly suck. I had a buddy in LoCal who was burned as a kid. They gave him too much morphine and it blew out his hearing in both ears. Now he's disfigured -and- deaf. It is difficult to feel too sorry for oneself when one hears a story like that guy's. Jeeze. Yes, it's a good "perspective thumpin'" story, isn't it? The sample guy was only a 2nd degree burn. Can you say "blistered"? Not nearly as bad. Does it work on 3rd degree burns, too? (further research indicates that it cannot.) http://goo.gl/Xi3uu Evidence suggests that it is an effective tool for some kinds of burns. Should we dismiss it because it does not regenerate missing limbs *while* healing skin within days? I think not! WHAT? Who's dismissing anything? I'm saying it's too bad it doesn't work for the worst case patients. My meager back pain experiences have taught me that you do NOT want pain ruling your life, and burn patients have only that for a life: excruciating pain and barest cognizance of reality around them. "Mr Uram's skin is now completely healed with no obvious signs he was ever burned." Well, OK. That is not too bad. His atomization sucks, though. And that's likely a $34k gun, too. Who knows? Not me. Perhaps Dr Jörg Gerlach discovered that an evenly distributed fine coat of stem cell solution did not work as quickly or effectively as did the uneven pattern shown? What, you mean that skin and paint -aren't- the same? gd&r It doesn't even matter to me that, as the Dr. says: €œSkin cell spraying is not new, it was invented around 20 years ago in Argentina; and it is (for example) also performed in Australia,€ http://www.thestar.com/news/world/ar...n-burn-victims Often, the guy that saves lives and reduces suffering did that by promoting the work of others. It's all good. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman |
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